(06-07-2015 02:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:08 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Responding Officer(s) should have resolved the immediate issue (the fight between mom and the kid) and ordered the rest of the "guests" to leave immediately.

When the "guests" failed to comply with the Order to disperse, immediately call in Backup and maybe a Paddy Wagon. Dont think there would be much 'mouthing off" when they see the Wagon on the Cul de sac.

That would have ended this incident peacefully.

When the three or four "guests" attempted to interfere with the Officer's detention of the woman in the bikini by running up to and physically confronting the Officer... well they should consider themselves fortunate.

If 14yo kids showed up in swim suits most likely they were invited or lived in the neighborhood. If they were invited, they were probably dropped them off.

From your article, just the opposite,

Several neighbors called police out to the Craig Ranch North Community Pool Friday evening to report “multiple juveniles at the location, who did not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave.”

Multiple witnesses told CBS11 News a fight then broke out involving juveniles as well as adults.

When officers arrived at the scene, according to McKinney police, they encountered a large crowd that refused to comply with police command.

Pretty much blows up this whole narrative.

Nice run at the race baiting though!

(06-07-2015 02:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:08 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Responding Officer(s) should have resolved the immediate issue (the fight between mom and the kid) and ordered the rest of the "guests" to leave immediately.

When the "guests" failed to comply with the Order to disperse, immediately call in Backup and maybe a Paddy Wagon. Dont think there would be much 'mouthing off" when they see the Wagon on the Cul de sac.

That would have ended this incident peacefully.

When the three or four "guests" attempted to interfere with the Officer's detention of the woman in the bikini by running up to and physically confronting the Officer... well they should consider themselves fortunate.

If 14yo kids showed up in swim suits most likely they were invited or lived in the neighborhood. If they were invited, they were probably dropped them off.

From your article, just the opposite,

Several neighbors called police out to the Craig Ranch North Community Pool Friday evening to report “multiple juveniles at the location, who did not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave.”

Multiple witnesses told CBS11 News a fight then broke out involving juveniles as well as adults.

When officers arrived at the scene, according to McKinney police, they encountered a large crowd that refused to comply with police command.

That may be embellished. In any event, you need to do what an officer tells you to do short of something very, very extreme. I don't see what's so hard about that, rather than calling them a pig and enticing them to use brute force so you can scream police brutality (which is, of course, exactly what some of them want but that's NHNT). You can always sue later if you felt wrong and in this case that would have been very effective with a camera there recording all of the officer's actions.

This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

(06-07-2015 02:23 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:18 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 02:08 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  Responding Officer(s) should have resolved the immediate issue (the fight between mom and the kid) and ordered the rest of the "guests" to leave immediately.

When the "guests" failed to comply with the Order to disperse, immediately call in Backup and maybe a Paddy Wagon. Dont think there would be much 'mouthing off" when they see the Wagon on the Cul de sac.

That would have ended this incident peacefully.

When the three or four "guests" attempted to interfere with the Officer's detention of the woman in the bikini by running up to and physically confronting the Officer... well they should consider themselves fortunate.

If 14yo kids showed up in swim suits most likely they were invited or lived in the neighborhood. If they were invited, they were probably dropped them off.

From your article, just the opposite,

Several neighbors called police out to the Craig Ranch North Community Pool Friday evening to report “multiple juveniles at the location, who did not live in the area or have permission to be there, refusing to leave.”

Multiple witnesses told CBS11 News a fight then broke out involving juveniles as well as adults.

When officers arrived at the scene, according to McKinney police, they encountered a large crowd that refused to comply with police command.

Just because they weren't invited by the folks calling the police doesn't mean that they weren't invited.

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

Really, you'd call the cops? That's harsh, unless they started trouble (which they apparently did).

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

If you listen again you can hear them say that they were there for the pool party. Cops only detained the people that they wanted to detain.

(06-07-2015 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

If you listen again you can hear them say that they were there for the pool party. Cops only detained the people that they wanted to detain.

Don't run from the cops.

(06-07-2015 03:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

Really, you'd call the cops? That's harsh, unless they started trouble (which they apparently did).

If I was in a private club and I saw uninvited, non-members in the pool, I would ask them to leave. If they refused to leave and wanted to fight, I'd call the cops and haves their asses hauled away.

I don't think that's unreasonable.

(06-07-2015 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

If you listen again you can hear them say that they were there for the pool party. Cops only detained the people that they wanted to detain.

Just because they said they were there for the pool party, doesn't mean they were invited. Every "crasher" is there for the event.

And if they were invited, they'd be yelling that out.

Pretty clear, they weren't invited.

(06-07-2015 03:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

Really, you'd call the cops? That's harsh, unless they started trouble (which they apparently did).

Why do people think that private property and items are their's to use? So I can just waltz up in your house,eat your food, and as long as I'm not causing any trouble you shoul dbe ok with it?

(06-07-2015 04:42 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

If you listen again you can hear them say that they were there for the pool party. Cops only detained the people that they wanted to detain.

Just because they said they were there for the pool party, doesn't mean they were invited. Every "crasher" is there for the event.

And if they were invited, they'd be yelling that out.

Pretty clear, they weren't invited.

Check the Invite List. When we used to have Mardi Gras Parties, the $65 per hour spent for the Off Duty Police Officer standing at the Front Door was worth every penny.

(06-07-2015 04:51 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 04:42 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:45 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

If you listen again you can hear them say that they were there for the pool party. Cops only detained the people that they wanted to detain.

Just because they said they were there for the pool party, doesn't mean they were invited. Every "crasher" is there for the event.

And if they were invited, they'd be yelling that out.

Pretty clear, they weren't invited.

Check the Invite List. When we used to have Mardi Gras Parties, the $65 per hour spent for the Off Duty Police Officer standing at the Front Door was worth every penny.

These are simple, neighborhood pools. It is very, very rare that uninvited people show up and start fighting. I've never seen it happen and I've lived in this area for 30 years. People respect other people's property here. Hiring a security guard is over the top.

Too bad there's no video of the uninvited people starting fights at the pool. As usual, there's only a video of outnumbered police officers trying to sort out the mess and getting absolutely no cooperation from the unwashed masses.

^

Exactly. Social media is already on it and in flames over it like a forest fire, at least mine.

(06-07-2015 04:49 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

Really, you'd call the cops? That's harsh, unless they started trouble (which they apparently did).

Why do people think that private property and items are their's to use? So I can just waltz up in your house,eat your food, and as long as I'm not causing any trouble you shoul dbe ok with it?

Did they have the venue reserved and restricted? If not then it's a public venue and so long as they weren't causing trouble, which again, they apparently were, then it shouldn't be an issue.

(06-07-2015 05:23 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  ^

Exactly. Social media is already over it and in flames over it like a forest fire, at least mine.

(06-07-2015 04:49 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:43 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  

(06-07-2015 03:32 PM)UConn-SMU Wrote:  This event took place about four miles from my house.

I moved to McKinney in 2003. If people want to allege there's tension between the police and the "community", they're lying.

There are a lot of neighborhood pools and you have to live in the neighborhood to use the pool. The pools are private. You can't just walk in off the street and do a belly flop. You have to be invited by a member of that community.

If I saw people from out of town just waltz in, I'd call the cops.

Really, you'd call the cops? That's harsh, unless they started trouble (which they apparently did).

Why do people think that private property and items are their's to use? So I can just waltz up in your house,eat your food, and as long as I'm not causing any trouble you shoul dbe ok with it?

Did they have the venue reserved and restricted? If not then it's a public venue and so long as they weren't causing trouble, which again, they apparently were, then it shouldn't be an issue.

It was at a pool maintained by a Homeowners Association for residents of the subdivision. It's not a public pool

I just saw two local news stories about this. They claimed to have the "complete" story, but they only talked with the girl's entourage and some irate citizens who had no connection to this incident (but who decided to show up at the police headquarters after seeing the video on social media).

Of course they didn't interview any of the witnesses who were actually at the pool. That's not how journalism is done these days.

The girl is meeting with her lawyer as we speak.

Fair enough. Still, it shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as they don't start trouble.

(06-07-2015 05:47 PM)_C2_ Wrote:  Fair enough. Still, it shouldn't be too much of an issue as long as they don't start trouble.

I pay my Homeowners Association Fees each month for Pool Maintenance & Operation, Life Guard etc.

Why should I pay for a non residents use? There is a City Pool 5 miles away. Go swim there. Or is this some BS claim of "White Privilege" ?

All the more reason to swim in your own private pool in your own backyard.

#nothugsallowed

Look fellas. When Person A invites underage black people to a neighborhood pool party. It is extremely poor etiquette for Person B to call the cops on said underage black persons. Especially when Person A has no ability to return said black people to their home (because they aren't old enough to drive).