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RE: Write the VPs today.
(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

Same as it ever was: We fight.

Watts faces the VPs tomorrow. Let them know we are with them.
05-25-2015 09:15 PM
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(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

At this point the only thing to do is wait out some people to cycle off the board of trustees. Probably also need to wait for some people to no longer be on this planet.
05-25-2015 09:21 PM
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(05-25-2015 09:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

At this point the only thing to do is wait out some people to cycle off the board of trustees. Probably also need to wait for some people to no longer be on this planet.

Gene Bartow taught us better than that. We fight.

I will never abandon this fight while that cherry-tree-planting bastard blights my campus.
05-25-2015 09:40 PM
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(05-25-2015 09:40 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

At this point the only thing to do is wait out some people to cycle off the board of trustees. Probably also need to wait for some people to no longer be on this planet.

Gene Bartow taught us better than that. We fight.

I will never abandon this fight while that cherry-tree-planting bastard blights my campus.

You can fight all you want, and I encourage it. But until Paul Bryant Jr is cold and in the ground, I doubt there's much that can be done.
05-25-2015 09:42 PM
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(05-25-2015 09:42 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:40 PM)58-56 Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

At this point the only thing to do is wait out some people to cycle off the board of trustees. Probably also need to wait for some people to no longer be on this planet.

Gene Bartow taught us better than that. We fight.

I will never abandon this fight while that cherry-tree-planting bastard blights my campus.

You can fight all you want, and I encourage it. But until Paul Bryant Jr is cold and in the ground, I doubt there's much that can be done.

The cherry trees will go down in uab lore one day. So bizarre. As for all this defeatism, snap out of it! Do not despair. It's a long fight and we will be on the winning side when all is said and done.
05-25-2015 10:21 PM
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JOIN THE BLAZER PRAYERFORCE....INVOKE PSALM 109 EARLY AND OFTEN FOR THE WHOLE BUNCH
OF THEM. WON'T COST YOU A THING AND ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO LOSE...I'M NOT JOKING.
In the immortal words of the Father of UAB Athletics....."THERE'S NO DOUBT"!
05-25-2015 11:24 PM
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Have we confirmed that the Cherry Trees are a real thing and not just a photoshop prank?

The SGA and NAS need to pimp-slap that and call for a rejection of that donation on the grounds that it will seed trouble on campus as obvious targets for vandalism and protest.
05-25-2015 11:27 PM
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RE: Write the VPs today.
Fight with what?

We raise money, it doesn't count. Our donors are lied too and played for fools. The faculty senate votes no confidence, it's ignored. The Alumni Association, almost every municipality and media outlet in the area comes out in support, that's ignored too. The university's vice presidents are supposedly ready to revolt and if twitter is to be believed Watts was even told by a trustee that he should resign, and what happens? Nothing.

So, what are our options? Really, I'd like to know.
05-25-2015 11:33 PM
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(05-25-2015 11:27 PM)GreenMississippi Wrote:  Have we confirmed that the Cherry Trees are a real thing and not just a photoshop prank?

The SGA and NAS need to pimp-slap that and call for a rejection of that donation on the grounds that it will seed trouble on campus as obvious targets for vandalism and protest.
EXCELLENT IDEA....rejection
05-25-2015 11:33 PM
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(05-25-2015 11:33 PM)tibber Wrote:  Fight with what?

We raise money, it doesn't count. Our donors are lied too and played for fools. The faculty senate votes no confidence, it's ignored. The Alumni Association, almost every municipality and media outlet in the area comes out in support, that's ignored too. The university's vice presidents are supposedly ready to revolt and if twitter is to be believed Watts was even told by a trustee that he should resign, and what happens? Nothing.

So, what are our options? Really, I'd like to know.

Well, this thing HAS been labeled as a hate crime. That might mean there are some NAACP people ready to come in and 03-nutkick04-chairshot
05-25-2015 11:49 PM
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Post: #71
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We keep bringing in pledges. If it $25.00 a year or $25,000. You write another round if letters to the VPs, the Trustees, and administration. You answer the bell when we say do it it's serious.

If you are not doing one or more of those things you are not doing enough.
05-25-2015 11:57 PM
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I think the point is what can be done after next Monday when Ray announces football isn't coming back? I live in a district where my legislator supports Jabo and Williams' legislation. I've signed a very significant pledge for the athletics program and promised the School of Business I'd match it with academic donations if the programs are returned and UAB is allowed to run its own affairs. There's no other levers that I can pull.

As long as Ray Watts is president, football isn't coming back. And as long as Paul Bryant Jr, Joe Espy, and Finis St. John have influence on the board, they will never hire a president to overturn Watts' decision. It is literally going to take a generational change for there to be a chance.
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05-26-2015 12:03 AM
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It is if this generation rolls over and quits.
05-26-2015 12:10 AM
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(05-26-2015 12:10 AM)UAB Band Dad Wrote:  It is if this generation rolls over and quits.

Again, like has been asked before, what can be done? Give me something to do that will have some kind of effect and I'll do it.
05-26-2015 12:11 AM
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At this point, I'm just pulling for the asteroid to hit dead in the geographical center of the state of Alabama. This is corruption that would make the most venal D.C. insider blush.
05-26-2015 12:21 AM
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(05-26-2015 12:21 AM)tibber Wrote:  At this point, I'm just pulling for the asteroid to hit dead in the geographical center of the state of Alabama. This is corruption that would make the most venal D.C. insider blush.

+4,850,000
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(05-25-2015 09:21 PM)mixduptransistor Wrote:  
(05-25-2015 09:09 PM)tibber Wrote:  So, where do we go from here? This isn't just me being negative, I really want to know. It looks like Watts is staying the course and our most influential supporters got played. SACS is useless, Montgomery is useless...so what do we do?

At this point the only thing to do is wait out some people to cycle off the board of trustees. Probably also need to wait for some people to no longer be on this planet.

Waiting the bastards out is one of the things on the list of things to do.

I've told more than one person, to paraphrase David Housel, UAB football will be back, but a couple of high-profile funerals might have to take place first.
05-26-2015 06:49 AM
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I sent a new email to the VPs as well as an email to Kahn and president@uab.edu to confirm receipt of my pledge form. Fingers crossed.
05-26-2015 06:59 AM
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My response from Dr. Dale,

Mike,

Thanks for your comments. I know you love UAB. Do not hurt what you love.


Louis Dale
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05-26-2015 08:29 AM
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(05-26-2015 08:29 AM)blzr4life Wrote:  My response from Dr. Dale,

Mike,

Thanks for your comments. I know you love UAB. Do not hurt what you love.


Louis Dale
Louis Dale, Ph.D.
Vice President for Equity and Diversity
The University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB)
1720 2nd Avenue, South (Mailing Address)
401 Campbell Hall
1300 University Boulevard (Campus Address)
Birmingham, AL 35294-1170
Telephone: (205) 934-8762
Fax: (205) 934-1650
E-mail: ldale@uab.edu

Hmmmm....interesting comment.
05-26-2015 08:33 AM
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