(05-13-2015 12:06 PM)ECUGrad07 Wrote: There have been what, 50 shootings in Baltimore since the curfew was lifted? How many have those awful police been involved in?
Funny how Obama, Mosby, Sharpton, etc have all been silent about that.
For the millionth time, it's not about shootings or deaths. It's about authorities seemingly dragging their feet when it comes to arresting the person(s) responsible.
So what you want is for them to throw cops in jail without an investigation and without following the established procedure for these types of investigations?
In essence what you want is to violate their civil rights just because they are cops.
When did I ever say what I want.
I'm simply trying to explain the difference between incidents regarding when people protest and don't protest.
Problem is people protest without knowing any facts with regard to the incident.
I would go further to say that what a lot of these people are doing (certainly in Baltimore) wasn't protesting as much as destroying. And people like Al Sharpton certainly aren't helping the situation and instead profiting off of people's ignorance.
(05-13-2015 12:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: For the millionth time, it's not about shootings or deaths. It's about authorities seemingly dragging their feet when it comes to arresting the person(s) responsible.
If that is actually your concern, then you don't understand the process. Someone else can explain it better, but generally speaking, in order to arrest someone, you have to present your evidence to a judge ( a formality often) but once you serve that arrest warrant, his attorney will demand a hearing where the evidence can be challenged/disputed. Unless you have a lot of your evidence ready to roll, you risk the judge throwing the case out and you never get to try them.
You guys seem to think... dead person = immediate arrest... and that just isn't always or even often the case... especially when elements of self defense appear. In cop shootings or shootings on your own property of someone who didn't belong there, it is almost NEVER the case.
Perfect example was ZImmerman. They arrested him which made him stop talking. It also started the clock on how long they had to collect evidence. They lost. It's possible (likely?) that had they waited to arrest him, he would have said something... or they would have discovered something... or he would have done something else that resulted in a conviction.
Unless someone is an immediate and general threat to the public at large (which a cop on desk duty generally is not) then you don't immediately arrest someone unless you have overwhelming evidence of a crime. (and no, a dead body is not overwhelming evidence of a crime if self defense is even an option)
It's not my concern. I'm just attempting to express why these people are doing what they are doing.
I'm not out there protesting.
You also do not appear to be making any effort to explain to the ones who are just why they are wrong.
So one would reasonably infer that you are cool with it.
(This post was last modified: 05-13-2015 03:17 PM by Owl 69/70/75.)
(05-13-2015 12:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote: For the millionth time, it's not about shootings or deaths. It's about authorities seemingly dragging their feet when it comes to arresting the person(s) responsible.
If that is actually your concern, then you don't understand the process. Someone else can explain it better, but generally speaking, in order to arrest someone, you have to present your evidence to a judge ( a formality often) but once you serve that arrest warrant, his attorney will demand a hearing where the evidence can be challenged/disputed. Unless you have a lot of your evidence ready to roll, you risk the judge throwing the case out and you never get to try them.
You guys seem to think... dead person = immediate arrest... and that just isn't always or even often the case... especially when elements of self defense appear. In cop shootings or shootings on your own property of someone who didn't belong there, it is almost NEVER the case.
Perfect example was ZImmerman. They arrested him which made him stop talking. It also started the clock on how long they had to collect evidence. They lost. It's possible (likely?) that had they waited to arrest him, he would have said something... or they would have discovered something... or he would have done something else that resulted in a conviction.
Unless someone is an immediate and general threat to the public at large (which a cop on desk duty generally is not) then you don't immediately arrest someone unless you have overwhelming evidence of a crime. (and no, a dead body is not overwhelming evidence of a crime if self defense is even an option)
It's not my concern. I'm just attempting to express why these people are doing what they are doing.
I'm not out there protesting. I'm just here to troll.
(05-13-2015 09:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote: The Real Epidemic.
Crazy, Drugged up Out Of Control Youth with Nothing Else to Do but act the Thug with innocent people and let their Stupidity get themselves Killed. Yeah It's becoming an epidemic Alright.
(05-13-2015 09:53 AM)CardFan1 Wrote: Crazy, Drugged up Out Of Control Youth with Nothing Else to Do but act the Thug with innocent people and let their Stupidity get themselves Killed. Yeah It's becoming an epidemic Alright.
There's that "T" word again to describe a black man.
