(05-14-2015 02:51 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I didn't say there was more money here or there. I said the geographic make up of each state makes their economies different and therefore like comparing apples and oranges. In Texas, you could work in oil and make good money without much education. I don't think you could do the same in the silicone valley.
Oh good lord.
First, Silicone Valley isn't in San Fran or Oakland... It's more Redwood City to San Jose... and Texas has its share of tech as well. There is certainly as much in Houston or Austin as there is in San Fran or Oakland. Yes, Silicon Valley has more, but we're not talking about those places.
I agree that they aren't identical... as no two places ever are... so what is the point in comparing Houston to LA to New York to Cleveland AT ALL?
Houston isn't like San Antonio or Austin or Dallas, yet they all do well in these measures.
La isn't like SF/Oakland, yet they all do poorly in these measures.
What DO they have in common?
'The South' isn't like 'The North' either... yet we have all of these comparisons of them and their race relations... but we note that blacks actually do better in the south and suddenly you can't compare apples and oranges.
Cali and Texas are more alike than most states. Both are geographically quite diverse with lots of resources each.
Second, you're implying that blacks in Cali are less educated than whites in Cali... otherwise they'd do better, right? I know you aren't... but that is certainly implied... Which only proves the point about government policies. You're alternatively in Cali but also in Texas implying that education ISN'T the key to success.... which lays bare all of the complaints about public education in Texas. It's also important to note that a large number of the best public schools in the country are in Houston and Dallas.
Finally, just because we're talking about apples and oranges doesn't mean you can't draw comparisons. They both grow on trees. Apples have more fiber than oranges but less vitamin C.... etc etc etc.
If you're suggesting that black people should move to Texas instead of California because the types of businesses that are there are better suited to their success, then fine... but the fact remains that despite having a supposedly 'bad' government for minorities in Texas (I believe they've voted R for president every time since the 70's) and a supposedly good one for minorities in Cali (only Reagan I believe kept them from voting D every time in that same period) that African Americans have done not only slightly better, but VASTLY better in Texas.
If you choose to believe that it is all because of industry or geography... well, okay. All that does is similarly argue that any implication that 'the south' or 'Republicans' are somehow BAD for minorities is similarly over-ruled by industry or geography as opposed to policies or race
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