http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...t-football

Appears they will get another year for other sports. Not sure how UAB can get back to FBS level by 2016 even if the study recommends bringing back Football. Seems like it would take a multi-year effort unless the NCAA provides some waivers. UAB fans would know more about how this might be able to happen.

So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

While it's not a done deal until June, it would be unnecessarily cruel to boot a charter member without giving them a year courtesy to figure out if the decision can be reversed.

(04-29-2015 01:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  While it's not a done deal until June, it would be unnecessarily cruel to boot a charter member without giving them a year courtesy to figure out if the decision can be reversed.

I don't think the decision is going to be reversed. This was a decision 3 years in the making.
I think UAB will find a home before June and will announce by end of June their new conference. No sense in staying in CUSA any longer, just get it over with.

(04-29-2015 01:03 PM)goofus Wrote:  So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

All good questions?

Article really didn't say. If CCG deregulation passes, CUSA could stay at 13 and scrap divisions. Staying at 13 means a larger share of the pie for the schools from the CFP.

Just my opinion, I would not add anyone unless it could bring something to the conference. Northern Ill opens new markets and perfect for the west. NDSU football only could be an opion. Ga State brings in basketball and the Atlanta market. I think CUSA can move slow and not be in a hurry to do an immediate response.

(04-29-2015 12:55 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball...t-football

Appears they will get another year for other sports. Not sure how UAB can get back to FBS level by 2016 even if the study recommends bringing back Football. Seems like it would take a multi-year effort unless the NCAA provides some waivers. UAB fans would know more about how this might be able to happen.

Since UAB would have to go through the FCS to FBS transition process, they should be able to give out 30 scholarships in 16 and maybe 17 as per FCS rules. I assume they'd either not play at all in 2016 or play a non-NCAA schedule like USA did in the beginning of their program. 2017 would probably be their first FBS transition year and they would be fully transitioned in 2019.

(04-29-2015 01:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:03 PM)goofus Wrote:  So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

All good questions?

Article really didn't say. If CCG deregulation passes, CUSA could stay at 13 and scrap divisions. Staying at 13 means a larger share of the pie for the schools from the CFP.

Just my opinion, I would not add anyone unless it could bring something to the conference. Northern Ill opens new markets and perfect for the west. NDSU football only could be an opion. Ga State brings in basketball and the Atlanta market. I think CUSA can move slow and not be in a hurry to do an immediate response.

actually they might need to move quicker than you would think. Most conferences require a years notice to move. Yeah you might be able to break that- but you would have to pay a lot more $$$ to do that.

(04-29-2015 01:10 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't think the decision is going to be reversed. This was a decision 3 years in the making.
I think UAB will find a home before June and will announce by end of June their new conference. No sense in staying in CUSA any longer, just get it over with.

Big ships don't turn on a dime. They need at least a year. They don't even have an athlete director hired.

But a year is what they're doing to get, to give it a college try.

(04-29-2015 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:03 PM)goofus Wrote:  So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

All good questions?

Article really didn't say. If CCG deregulation passes, CUSA could stay at 13 and scrap divisions. Staying at 13 means a larger share of the pie for the schools from the CFP.

Just my opinion, I would not add anyone unless it could bring something to the conference. Northern Ill opens new markets and perfect for the west. NDSU football only could be an opion. Ga State brings in basketball and the Atlanta market. I think CUSA can move slow and not be in a hurry to do an immediate response.

actually they might need to move quicker than you would think. Most conferences require a years notice to move. Yeah you might be able to break that- but you would have to pay a lot more $$$ to do that.

Good point. In the Sun Belt it is a $1 million penalty if given less than a year's notice. If CUSA decides they want a new program for the 2016-17 year, it will greatly ease the financial burden on the invited program if they can give notice by June 30th.

(04-29-2015 01:05 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  While it's not a done deal until June, it would be unnecessarily cruel to boot a charter member without giving them a year courtesy to figure out if the decision can be reversed.

Not saying it's the same situation, but CUSA has had no issue booting a charter member before.

(04-29-2015 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:03 PM)goofus Wrote:  So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

All good questions?

Article really didn't say. If CCG deregulation passes, CUSA could stay at 13 and scrap divisions. Staying at 13 means a larger share of the pie for the schools from the CFP.

Just my opinion, I would not add anyone unless it could bring something to the conference. Northern Ill opens new markets and perfect for the west. NDSU football only could be an opion. Ga State brings in basketball and the Atlanta market. I think CUSA can move slow and not be in a hurry to do an immediate response.

actually they might need to move quicker than you would think. Most conferences require a years notice to move. Yeah you might be able to break that- but you would have to pay a lot more $$$ to do that.

Why I said CUSA does not need to move quickly. A team does not have to transition by 2016. Lets say UAB is gone. For 2016, a conference would need to announce in a few weeks. However, CUSA can offer it to be 2017 season. It is not like they have not done a 13 team schedule. Especially since they are trying to negotiate a new TV deal, they can explore if having an additional team makes sense.

It will be also interesting how the NCAA Credits works. It was UAB who broke the agreement to no longer be in CUSA by dropping football. In theory, UAB should not be able to take the CUSA credits with them since technically CUSA did not expel UAB.

The by-laws say there will have to be a vote to expel UAB. UAB gets no NCAA tourney credits whether they are expelled or leave voluntarily.

(04-29-2015 01:27 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:14 PM)stever20 Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:11 PM)msm96wolf Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:03 PM)goofus Wrote:  So where is UAB going in 2016?

Is C-usa sticking at 13 or adding somebody new?

All good questions?

Article really didn't say. If CCG deregulation passes, CUSA could stay at 13 and scrap divisions. Staying at 13 means a larger share of the pie for the schools from the CFP.

Just my opinion, I would not add anyone unless it could bring something to the conference. Northern Ill opens new markets and perfect for the west. NDSU football only could be an opion. Ga State brings in basketball and the Atlanta market. I think CUSA can move slow and not be in a hurry to do an immediate response.

actually they might need to move quicker than you would think. Most conferences require a years notice to move. Yeah you might be able to break that- but you would have to pay a lot more $$$ to do that.

Why I said CUSA does not need to move quickly. A team does not have to transition by 2016. Lets say UAB is gone. For 2016, a conference would need to announce in a few weeks. However, CUSA can offer it to be 2017 season. It is not like they have not done a 13 team schedule. Especially since they are trying to negotiate a new TV deal, they can explore if having an additional team makes sense.

It will be also interesting how the NCAA Credits works. It was UAB who broke the agreement to no longer be in CUSA by dropping football. In theory, UAB should not be able to take the CUSA credits with them since technically CUSA did not expel UAB.

The units always stay with the conference no matter what.

I think the thing is, CUSA would want to go 14 ASAP. Makes the scheduling much easier for football and basketball- basketball especially to make it where everyone can play every single cycle.

IMHO, CUSA will stay at 13 unless a very strong candidate presents itself. One that either enhances the TV contract total $, or greatly increases the likelihood of earning more postseason money in a revenue sport. That is a shorter list than a lot of hopefuls would like it to be.

Also, I believe the commish is watching the Big 12 for movement.

CUSA is leaking this publicly to send the message to UAB: Go find yourselves another conference, to join effective 2016-17, because you won't be able to stay here permanently. Don't wait to start looking until after the actual vote to expel.

(04-29-2015 01:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The units always stay with the conference no matter what.

I think the thing is, CUSA would want to go 14 ASAP. Makes the scheduling much easier for football and basketball- basketball especially to make it where everyone can play every single cycle.

Well then they'll either have to pay the exit fee for a Sun Belt team or an FCS move-up (if there is one) or they'll just have to wait a year.

If they have 13 teams in 2016-17, the world will not end.

(04-29-2015 01:16 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:10 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  I don't think the decision is going to be reversed. This was a decision 3 years in the making.
I think UAB will find a home before June and will announce by end of June their new conference. No sense in staying in CUSA any longer, just get it over with.

Big ships don't turn on a dime. They need at least a year. They don't even have an athlete director hired.

But a year is what they're doing to get, to give it a college try.

UAB isn't a big ship. But they have to make a decision to see which conference will want them.
The telling sign is that they won't get a dime of any conference revenue by staying in CUSA next season. They are better off landing in a conference right now to get conference revenue. You know they already have been talking to other commissioners. Which ones? One could only speculate. There are always several that need UAB in the conference, but I'm sure UAB is in the process of vetting out which conference to choose.

(04-29-2015 01:39 PM)Wedge Wrote:  CUSA is leaking this publicly to send the message to UAB: Go find yourselves another conference, to join effective 2016-17, because you won't be able to stay here permanently. Don't wait to start looking until after the actual vote to expel.

Or get a reasonable plan in place to restart football in a year.

(04-29-2015 01:43 PM)MWC Tex Wrote:  UAB isn't a big ship. But they have to make a decision to see which conference will want them.
The telling sign is that they won't get a dime of any conference revenue by staying in CUSA next season. They are better off landing in a conference right now to get conference revenue. You know they already have been talking to other commissioners. Which ones? One could only speculate. There are always several that need UAB in the conference, but I'm sure UAB is in the process of vetting out which conference to choose.

They won't get a full share (ie, money from football), but they'll get money from the CUSA from basketball. And they'll get more basketball money from the CUSA than they'd get elsewhere, most likely. Unless they joined a conference like the MVC, perhaps.

(04-29-2015 01:41 PM)MplsBison Wrote:  

(04-29-2015 01:33 PM)stever20 Wrote:  The units always stay with the conference no matter what.

I think the thing is, CUSA would want to go 14 ASAP. Makes the scheduling much easier for football and basketball- basketball especially to make it where everyone can play every single cycle.

Well then they'll either have to pay the exit fee for a Sun Belt team or an FCS move-up (if there is one) or they'll just have to wait a year.

If they have 13 teams in 2016-17, the world will not end.

I think if they asked Georgia St to move for 2016-17, they would say yes in a heartbeat. Why would CUSA have to pay the exit fee? If Georgia St said no, I'm sure some SBC team would say yes.