A deputy is heard telling Harris, "I need you to roll on your stomach." At about the same time, a woman is heard in the background saying, "Stop fighting."

While the deputy is subduing Harris on the ground, a gunshot rings out and a man says, "Oh, I shot him. I'm sorry."

Authorities identified the shooter as 73-year-old reserve deputy Robert Bates and said he meant to use his stun gun.

Harris screams, "He shot me. Oh, my God," and a deputy replies: "You f---ing ran. Shut the f--- up."

When Harris says he's losing his breath, a deputy replies, "F--- your breath."

Harris was treated by medics at the scene and died in a Tulsa hospital.



http://news.yahoo.com/video-released-sho...59435.html

Sickening.

He was probably in fear for his life.

Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

(04-13-2015 09:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

Seriously? Have you not been watching the news?

(04-13-2015 09:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 09:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

Seriously? Have you not been watching the news?

Yea.. And if people would comply, 90% of the stuff we're seeing wouldn't happen.

If you told your students to do something and they blatantly refused, would you coddle them or make them do the work?

(04-13-2015 10:02 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 09:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 09:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

Seriously? Have you not been watching the news?

Yea.. And if people would comply, 90% of the stuff we're seeing wouldn't happen.

If you told your students to do something and they blatantly refused, would you coddle them or make them do the work?

Noncompliance doesn't give you the right to shoot someone in the back 8 times.

(04-13-2015 10:02 AM)gdunn Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 09:55 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-13-2015 09:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

Seriously? Have you not been watching the news?

Yea.. And if people would comply, 90% of the stuff we're seeing wouldn't happen.

If you told your students to do something and they blatantly refused, would you coddle them or make them do the work?

So now not killing a fleeing suspect is coddling them? I don't think you've thought this through.

Oh I'm sorry.. So by you and Fit's ideology next time a cop pulls me over, I should make a run for it huh.. That puts me in the right and them in the wrong?

Funny how when I said coddle them or make them do the work, you picked out coddle.. If a police officer says, stop you don't run, you stop... You two must have a problem with authority.

(04-13-2015 09:53 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Question.. Why is it ok to run from the police?

Same $hit that you see on cops except that they don't get shot.

(04-13-2015 10:23 AM)gdunn Wrote:  Oh I'm sorry.. So by you and Fit's ideology next time a cop pulls me over, I should make a run for it huh.. That puts me in the right and them in the wrong?

Funny how when I said coddle them or make them do the work, you picked out coddle.. If a police officer says, stop you don't run, you stop... You two must have a problem with authority.

No one disagrees that he was in the wrong for running, and you keep going back to that like it's a pertinent argument. At this point, I think you're either trolling or just not even trying.

The problem I have isn't with punishing fleeing suspects, I fully support charging these suspects with the appropriate crime and prosecuting them for it, it's with police shooting them in the back. You see, summary execution isn't the punishment we should levy against someone who runs from the police, and it's certainly not the punishment prescribed in the legislation on the subject matter. It's really not a difficult concept.

It is a simple concept as well that if an individual lays a finger on an officer of the law, the officer should feel threatened and has the right, extended to he/she, to use whatever force necessary. It's really not a difficult concept!

(04-13-2015 11:15 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  It is a simple concept as well that if an individual lays a finger on an officer of the law, the officer should feel threatened and has the right, extended to he/she, to use whatever force necessary. It's really not a difficult concept!

Let me get this straight. So if I touch an officer, he has the right to shoot me?

I know why you have a teaching certificate and its obvious you teach special ed.

(04-13-2015 11:15 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  It is a simple concept as well that if an individual lays a finger on an officer of the law, the officer should feel threatened and has the right, extended to he/she, to use whatever force necessary. It's really not a difficult concept!

Nope, I disagree with you there. A police officer should only use deadly force when reasonably appropriate fear for either their own or others safety exists. An unarmed suspect running away from you don't meet that standard, and the officer himself knows it the second it happens. The same with the incident in Charleston as evidenced by the police officer moving the taser.

You're defending the police in situations where there is video/audio evidence of them immediately knowing they made a mistake.

(04-13-2015 11:27 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  I know why you have a teaching certificate and its obvious you teach special ed.

Dude you cannot be serious.

You honestly believe that an officer has the right to shoot anyone who touches him?

Well you don't make the rules about officers and them being assaulted do you? I urge you to check with your local police/State Police and check the law.

These are two completely different situations as well.

Until we have a machine, droid, Robocop,... the human element will be present. Sort of like our military. Do you realize people die each day in our military. These are due to accidents during training while performing their duties, not incurred via combat.

(04-13-2015 11:38 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  Well you don't make the rules about officers and them being assaulted do you? I urge you to check with your local police/State Police and check the law.

You're the one who made the claim. Why don't you find the law and post it here?

Here is an example:

Officer Darren Wilson and Michael Brown

Tennessee v Garner 1985.