The video shows the end of a confrontation. So we don't know what happened before the video was taken.
The guy who died also had a warrant out for his arrest. Cop will probably be found guilty of something.

People are going to try and compare this to Ferguson & Michael Brown, which is ludacris.

This cop will be convicted, and deservedly so.

Might have already been pointed out in the thread, but you can see in the video that the cop that shot drops something beside the shooting victim's body while the other cop is checking him out. Can't tell what it is for sure, but could be the taser. Looks to be the right size/shape.

If so, he just ****** himself even worse by planting evidence.

This guy is going to jail regardless.

There's several things that need to be answered. One major one is this.........

Was this a felony traffic stop?

During felony traffic stops, all LEO do not use the same procedure with a basic traffic stop. LEO are trained to be put on high alert with their weapon upholstered. LEO also will not know what type of felony the car owner is wanted for.

Was there a weapon by the suspect?

If there was a weapon, the threat level increases.

Personally, I haven't seen the video in its entirety, except while I was on a treadmill this morning at a gym with no sound.

If these 2 questions have been answered then it's a bit easier to come to a conclusion.

All everyone has seen is the video. We have not seen anything that preceded the video.

The police have to arrest and charge the officer now that the video is out and viral. The officer will be charged and it will go to trial. At that point all the evidence will be presented, yes evidence prior to the video.

The black man has the taser wires attached to his body so he was tased prior to resisting arrest.

(04-08-2015 08:31 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  There's several things that need to be answered. One major one is this.........

Was this a felony traffic stop?

During felony traffic stops, all LEO do not use the same procedure with a basic traffic stop. LEO are trained to be put on high alert with their weapon upholstered. LEO also will not know what type of felony the car owner is wanted for.

Was there a weapon by the suspect?

If there was a weapon, the threat level increases.

Personally, I haven't seen the video in its entirety, except while I was on a treadmill this morning at a gym with no sound.

If these 2 questions have been answered then it's a bit easier to come to a conclusion.

It seems this was not a LEO. The State has already pressed charges against the officer.

(04-08-2015 08:35 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  All everyone has seen is the video. We have not seen anything that preceded the video.

The police have to arrest and charge the officer now that the video is out and viral. The officer will be charged and it will go to trial. At that point all the evidence will be presented, yes evidence prior to the video.

The black man has the taser wires attached to his body so he was tased prior to resisting arrest.

What incident before this video would justify the officer in killing this guy? The guy was unarmed.

(04-08-2015 08:35 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 08:31 AM)NewJersey GATA Wrote:  There's several things that need to be answered. One major one is this.........

Was this a felony traffic stop?

During felony traffic stops, all LEO do not use the same procedure with a basic traffic stop. LEO are trained to be put on high alert with their weapon upholstered. LEO also will not know what type of felony the car owner is wanted for.

Was there a weapon by the suspect?

If there was a weapon, the threat level increases.

Personally, I haven't seen the video in its entirety, except while I was on a treadmill this morning at a gym with no sound.

If these 2 questions have been answered then it's a bit easier to come to a conclusion.

It seems this was not a LEO. The State has already pressed charges against the officer.

I tried to follow up on some articles about the shooting and it doesn't bode well for the LEO. If the suspect DOES NOT have a deadly weapon (a gun), or a knife and is with in striking or lunging distance, then deadly force should not be used.

Also, if the suspect did have a deadly weapon, the LEO should NEVER use a taser instead of his gun! Only time his gun should be upholstered and discharged when the suspect does not have a deadly weapon is when the LEO life is in danger. (example, wrestling on the ground and over taken to the point that suspect has ability to kill you).

(04-08-2015 08:39 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 08:35 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  All everyone has seen is the video. We have not seen anything that preceded the video.

The police have to arrest and charge the officer now that the video is out and viral. The officer will be charged and it will go to trial. At that point all the evidence will be presented, yes evidence prior to the video.

The black man has the taser wires attached to his body so he was tased prior to resisting arrest.

What incident before this video would justify the officer in killing this guy? The guy was unarmed.

I can't answer the question, the evidence will.

Here's one for you, why did the black man not comply with the officer? He, the black man, was in control of the situation all by himself.

So now the narrative is that the officer targeted the black male and shot him down for no reason? It's open season on black males by this officer?

As I stated, the officer must be charged with something. The case will go to court and all evidence will be presented. But whatever the outcome may be, I can promise that "it" will not be enough right, wrong or indifferent!

(04-08-2015 09:00 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 08:39 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 08:35 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  All everyone has seen is the video. We have not seen anything that preceded the video.

The police have to arrest and charge the officer now that the video is out and viral. The officer will be charged and it will go to trial. At that point all the evidence will be presented, yes evidence prior to the video.

The black man has the taser wires attached to his body so he was tased prior to resisting arrest.

What incident before this video would justify the officer in killing this guy? The guy was unarmed.

I can't answer the question, the evidence will.

Here's one for you, why did the black man not comply with the officer? He, the black man, was in control of the situation all by himself.

So now the narrative is that the officer targeted the black male and shot him down for no reason? It's open season on black males by this officer?

As I stated, the officer must be charged with something. The case will go to court and all evidence will be presented. But whatever the outcome may be, I can promise that "it" will not be enough right, wrong or indifferent!

Unless they discover something that shows a motive or premeditation, then I don't think you can presume the officer was targeting him.

The video is really damning to the officer.

You didn't answer the question.

As disturbing as the video is, what does show about the black man? It should show a complete disregard for the law and the officer. The officer had probable cause to pull the man over in the first place. Again the deceased was in control of how much force would be used against him.

(04-07-2015 07:15 PM)Machiavelli Wrote:  No buddy. You're reading me wrong then. These are travesties. It's so freaking bad. What makes a cop shoot an unarmed man in the back? It defies logic.

The cop is an a$$hole. The video is pretty obvious. Now, the cop should have his day in court, but looking at that video, a murder charge should be forthcoming.

(04-08-2015 09:14 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  You didn't answer the question.

As disturbing as the video is, what does show about the black man? It should show a complete disregard for the law and the officer. The officer had probable cause to pull the man over in the first place. Again the deceased was in control of how much force would be used against him.

Agreed, it is a complete disregard of the officer.

So yes, the officer doesn't have control of the situation obviously since the guy is running. Still doesn't warrant killing the guy.

One thing I hope that comes out of this is quit resisting arrest and never initiate a fight with a cop, if true

Reports state Scott attempted to flee, resulting in a foot pursuit. Officer Slager then deployed his Taser weapon to detain the driver but was unsuccessful, a spokesperson for the police department said.

Police say an altercation then began between Slager and Scott resulting in a fight for the officer's Taser. During the fight, Scott allegedly gained control of the Taser to use it against the officer who then fired his service weapon at the suspect.
http://m.live5news.com/live5news/db_...tguid=shN7jVfk

Its easy to see that both the officer and the deceased are no where close to their respective vehicles. Why is that, unless the black man resisted more than once? Interesting..

(04-08-2015 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  One thing I hope that comes out of this is quit resisting arrest and never initiate a fight with a cop, if true

Reports state Scott attempted to flee, resulting in a foot pursuit. Officer Slager then deployed his Taser weapon to detain the driver but was unsuccessful, a spokesperson for the police department said.

Police say an altercation then began between Slager and Scott resulting in a fight for the officer's Taser. During the fight, Scott allegedly gained control of the Taser to use it against the officer who then fired his service weapon at the suspect.
http://m.live5news.com/live5news/db_...tguid=shN7jVfk

Yeah the victim certainly wasn't an innocent party, but ultimately the question is, did he deserve to be shot 8 times in the back while fleeing?

For me, the answer is no. In many situations, there are grey areas where as an officer, you can't hesitate. This is one of those situations where the officer had an opportunity for a non-lethal shot or pursuit because his life absolutely was not in danger.

(04-08-2015 06:59 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Jesus... that is awful.

I'm sorry, but a suspect running away after getting tasered should not be automatically subject to getting shot. There was no threat to the officer or anyone else.

Good to see the officer is being charged with murder.

??? Where did you hear the suspect was tasered? Last I heard he had taken the taser from the cop in a scuffle and hence, supposedly, this.

Let's just wait and see what happens with the evidence. There is more to the story,...there always is.

(04-08-2015 09:38 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 09:21 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  One thing I hope that comes out of this is quit resisting arrest and never initiate a fight with a cop, if true

Reports state Scott attempted to flee, resulting in a foot pursuit. Officer Slager then deployed his Taser weapon to detain the driver but was unsuccessful, a spokesperson for the police department said.

Police say an altercation then began between Slager and Scott resulting in a fight for the officer's Taser. During the fight, Scott allegedly gained control of the Taser to use it against the officer who then fired his service weapon at the suspect.
http://m.live5news.com/live5news/db_...tguid=shN7jVfk

Yeah the victim certainly wasn't an innocent party, but ultimately the question is, did he deserve to be shot 8 times in the back while fleeing?

For me, the answer is no. In many situations, there are grey areas where as an officer, you can't hesitate. This is one of those situations where the officer had an opportunity for a non-lethal shot or pursuit because his life absolutely was not in danger.

There is no such shot! EVERY LEO will say this. I'm not sure where you get your information from but this isn't Hollywood.

(04-08-2015 09:39 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  

(04-08-2015 06:59 AM)TheEagleWay Wrote:  Jesus... that is awful.

I'm sorry, but a suspect running away after getting tasered should not be automatically subject to getting shot. There was no threat to the officer or anyone else.

Good to see the officer is being charged with murder.

??? Where did you hear the suspect was tasered? Last I heard he had taken the taser from the cop in a scuffle and hence, supposedly, this.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04/08/us/sou...death.html

The shooting unfolded after Officer Slager stopped the driver of a Mercedes-Benz with a broken taillight, according to police reports. Mr. Scott ran away, and Officer Slager chased him into a grassy lot that abuts a muffler shop. He fired his Taser, an electronic stun gun, but it did not stop Mr. Scott, according to police reports.

Moments after the struggle, Officer Slager reported on his radio: “Shots fired and the subject is down. He took my Taser,” according to police reports.

But the video, which was taken by a bystander and provided to The New York Times by the Scott family’s lawyer, presents a different account. The video begins in the vacant lot, apparently moments after Officer Slager fired his Taser. Wires, which carry the electrical current from the stun gun, appear to be extending from Mr. Scott’s body as the two men tussle and Mr. Scott turns to run.