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RE: Basketball Recruit Updates
(05-27-2020 10:20 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-27-2020 03:50 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?
This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.
I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.
Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.
couldn't possibly disagree with you more. His rebouding his S- SR years made up for lack of roster size. And THAT, is what people are taking for granted. Take him away and replace him with an average big and the rest of the undersized roster, KK has issues. He was essentially our version of Dennis Rodman on the glass.
To think we can be competitive with our current roster isn’t taking Cacok for granted. You can twist things up all you want to but you were never going to give Siddle the benefit of the doubt on anything.
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(05-28-2020 08:35 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: (05-27-2020 10:20 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-27-2020 03:50 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote: This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.
I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.
Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.
couldn't possibly disagree with you more. His rebouding his S- SR years made up for lack of roster size. And THAT, is what people are taking for granted. Take him away and replace him with an average big and the rest of the undersized roster, KK has issues. He was essentially our version of Dennis Rodman on the glass.
To think we can be competitive with our current roster isn’t taking Cacok for granted. You can twist things up all you want to but you were never going to give Siddle the benefit of the doubt on anything.
That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
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(05-28-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
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RE: Basketball Recruit Updates
Rj Felton averaged 24 points 8 rebounds 3 steals and 4 assists per game this year as a junior
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(05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
How is that utter nonsense? I've said on multiple occasions he's brought in some talented kids there is really no debating that on paper. You give everyone benefit of the doubt right out of the gate though all aspects of life? If so, that's very interesting......................
BTW i remember having a similar discussion with you last hire... we both know how that worked out. (disclaimer, I'm in no way saying Siddle is CB)
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Gary Miller
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(05-28-2020 09:33 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
How is that utter nonsense? I've said on multiple occasions he's brought in some talented kids. You give everyone benefit of the doubt right out of the gate though all aspects of life? If so, that's very interesting......................
BTW i remember having a similar discussion with you last hire... we both know how that worked out. (disclaimer, I'm in no way saying Siddle is CB)
What are you even talking about at this point? This isn't every aspect of life, this is a basketball coach. It's remarks like that, that are utter nonsense. If you don't like what Siddle's done so far, that's fine but there's a better way of presenting that argument.
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(05-28-2020 09:43 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:33 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [quote='Seahawkhoops' pid='16836552' dateline='1590673197']
That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
How is that utter nonsense? I've said on multiple occasions he's brought in some talented kids. You give everyone benefit of the doubt right out of the gate though all aspects of life? If so, that's very interesting......................
BTW i remember having a similar discussion with you last hire... we both know how that worked out. (disclaimer, I'm in no way saying Siddle is CB)
What are you even talking about at this point? This isn't every aspect of life, this is a basketball coach. It's remarks like that, that are utter nonsense. If you don't like what Siddle's done so far, that's fine but there's a better way of presenting that argument.
Clearly some comprehension issues here. Let me repeat, he appears to brought in some really talented kids. My only issue is lack of size. That's been my comments the entire way. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that? My concern with the lack of size is deepened from his interview where he basically said we didn't need it. That's concerning.
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(05-28-2020 09:50 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:43 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:33 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [quote='Seahawkhoops' pid='16836552' dateline='1590673197']
That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
How is that utter nonsense? I've said on multiple occasions he's brought in some talented kids. You give everyone benefit of the doubt right out of the gate though all aspects of life? If so, that's very interesting......................
BTW i remember having a similar discussion with you last hire... we both know how that worked out. (disclaimer, I'm in no way saying Siddle is CB)
What are you even talking about at this point? This isn't every aspect of life, this is a basketball coach. It's remarks like that, that are utter nonsense. If you don't like what Siddle's done so far, that's fine but there's a better way of presenting that argument.
Clearly some comprehension issues here. Let me repeat, he's brought in come really talented kids. My only issue is lack of size. That's been my comments the entire way. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that?
Clearly you can't post anything without putting a personal shot at someone on this board. That's what I have a hard part understanding.
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(05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:39 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
It is not earned, it's given. You have not proven he cannot coach or that we will have a problem this fall or at any time SINCE WE HAVEN'T PLAYED A GAME YET.
"the benefit of the doubt
phrase of benefit
a concession that a person or statement must be regarded as correct or justified, if the contrary has not been proven."
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(05-28-2020 09:53 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:50 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:43 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: (05-28-2020 09:33 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 08:50 AM)bricksnivy Wrote: [quote='Seahawkhoops' pid='16836552' dateline='1590673197']
That's simply not true. I've given him a ton of credit for the talent he's brought in. And"benefit of the doubt" is earned BTW.......
Utter nonsense.
How is that utter nonsense? I've said on multiple occasions he's brought in some talented kids. You give everyone benefit of the doubt right out of the gate though all aspects of life? If so, that's very interesting......................
BTW i remember having a similar discussion with you last hire... we both know how that worked out. (disclaimer, I'm in no way saying Siddle is CB)
What are you even talking about at this point? This isn't every aspect of life, this is a basketball coach. It's remarks like that, that are utter nonsense. If you don't like what Siddle's done so far, that's fine but there's a better way of presenting that argument.
Clearly some comprehension issues here. Let me repeat, he's brought in come really talented kids. My only issue is lack of size. That's been my comments the entire way. Not sure what is so hard to understand about that?
Clearly you can't post anything without putting a personal shot at someone on this board. That's what I have a hard part understanding.
So now you come at me and expect me not to return fire? Got it. You and another say i'm talking "utter nonsense" so saying you can't comprehend is pretty much in line with that as a response. Can't have your cake and eat it to. Lets digress, shall we? Already too far off the rails and you are correct, no need for personal shots.
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I have a hard time understanding how you earn the benefit of doubt. When giving someone the benefit of the doubt, you are believing what they say and taking their word because you, yourself, have some doubt about will happen. Perhaps you were looking for a different saying, but Siddle can't earn the benefit of doubt and I have no idea what you're going on about with how this translates to all aspects of life.
We'll all get to see the results and then we'll get to evaluate him as a coach and recruiter. The reason I'm not critical of Siddle now for lack of size is the same reason I don't celebrate/stress NFL draft grades. It will take 2-3 years to really know what we have in Siddle. There are exceptions to this; it was pretty obvious Keatts had something special going on here in year 2 and it was pretty obvious during year 2 that McGrath wasn't the guy. Trying to draw conclusions based on the first recruiting cycle is mind numbing, but you're out there and if he fails you can say you were on it first. Congratulations!
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(05-28-2020 10:13 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: Top Mid-Major Transfer Classes
https://cbbcentral.com/2020/05/28/top-mi...r-classes/
The asterisks in the article note a lack of clarity on immediate eligibility. The writer also stated on twitter he believes that there's a pretty good chance Steere gets a waiver.
Really wish Pridgeon was eligible this year. It's like seeing a Christmas present in July, but you can't open it until December. I do wonder what the potential fallout could be, because clearly, he will be playing, a lot, as soon as he's eligible.
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(05-28-2020 10:22 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 10:13 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: Top Mid-Major Transfer Classes
https://cbbcentral.com/2020/05/28/top-mi...r-classes/
The asterisks in the article note a lack of clarity on immediate eligibility. The writer also stated on twitter he believes that there's a pretty good chance Steere gets a waiver.
Really wish Pridgeon was eligible this year. It's like seeing a Christmas present in July, but you can't open it until December. I do wonder what the potential fallout could be, because clearly, he will be playing, a lot, as soon as he's eligible.
From what I've read up on in regards to transfer waivers, I don't see any that Pridgen would fall under. There will probably be some fallout from him coming in, but it's hard to pinpoint who at this point. A lot of our guys will have something to prove next season, that's for sure. Competition within the team usually yields good results, so I don't see it as a bad thing.
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(05-28-2020 10:22 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 10:13 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: Top Mid-Major Transfer Classes
https://cbbcentral.com/2020/05/28/top-mi...r-classes/
The asterisks in the article note a lack of clarity on immediate eligibility. The writer also stated on twitter he believes that there's a pretty good chance Steere gets a waiver.
Really wish Pridgeon was eligible this year. It's like seeing a Christmas present in July, but you can't open it until December. I do wonder what the potential fallout could be, because clearly, he will be playing, a lot, as soon as he's eligible.
It balances the roster out more if he sits out this year but if he is eligible he’s gonna make an instant impact even if it’s half the production that he had as a freshman. From what I’ve heard Steere will get a waiver and might get a medical redshirt for this year since he was playing through injury in the 6 games he played this year
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(05-28-2020 11:08 AM)uncwilm-don Wrote: (05-28-2020 10:22 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: (05-28-2020 10:13 AM)Gary Miller Wrote: Top Mid-Major Transfer Classes
https://cbbcentral.com/2020/05/28/top-mi...r-classes/
The asterisks in the article note a lack of clarity on immediate eligibility. The writer also stated on twitter he believes that there's a pretty good chance Steere gets a waiver.
Really wish Pridgeon was eligible this year. It's like seeing a Christmas present in July, but you can't open it until December. I do wonder what the potential fallout could be, because clearly, he will be playing, a lot, as soon as he's eligible.
It balances the roster out more if he sits out this year but if he is eligible he’s gonna make an instant impact even if it’s half the production that he had as a freshman. From what I’ve heard Steere will get a waiver and might get a medical redshirt for this year since he was playing through injury in the 6 games he played this year
I didn't think there was any chance Prigeon is eligible this year, is that actually a possibility? That's not good News on Steere, we need him this year.
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(05-28-2020 01:05 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote: That's not good News on Steere, we need him this year.
I think he's saying Steere might get a medical redshirt for his year at St. Johns AND get a waiver to play immediately at UNCW, which to my mind would be good news.
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