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(05-19-2020 03:39 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Wow... this is an absolute steal for Takayo Siddle and UNCW... Pridgen is a definite all-league guy in the CAA.

The kid averaged an efficient 17 and 7 as a freshman. Super consistent. Probably would have been the second or third best player in the league this year if he stayed. That type kid doesn’t usually wind up moving from PL to CAA. He’s gonna be a stud. I’ve seen him in person.

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Patriot League, ECAC Rookie of the Year Joe Pridgen leaves Holy Cross for UNC-Wilmington

Pridgen entered the NCAA transfer portal in late April and heard from several schools, including Arkansas, Georgia, Rhode Island, Richmond and East Carolina, but the University of North Carolina Wilmington stood out to Pridgen and Sunday he announced, via Twitter, his commitment to UNCW.

“Some pretty big name schools called me and that was fun,” Pridgen said in a phone interview Monday afternoon, “but in the end I wanted to go somewhere I was able to kind of continue what I was doing at Holy Cross, but on a higher level, and I felt UNC Wilmington was that spot. Their coaching staff showed a lot of love to me and made me really feel like it can be a spot where I can grow, not only as a basketball player, but as a person. That led to my ultimate decision.”




I would have gone with the best-available grad transfer big...but hard to argue that Pridgen is not a great addition. Hopefully Dodd sticks around and flourishes, and Bowen comes into his own for his senior year.

That was my point about Pridgen. When a guy like that comes along and you have a scholarship, sign him up! He is a proven player at the DI level and we get him for 3 years. If we are looking to build long term success, this is how you do it.

"Pridgen started 29 of 30 games and scored in double figures 24 times. His 521 points were the second most by a freshman in Holy Cross and Patriot League history."

There is no debate the kid can be a stud here. Question is two fold, who is collateral damage, and how do you balance the roster?
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(05-21-2020 01:46 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:39 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Wow... this is an absolute steal for Takayo Siddle and UNCW... Pridgen is a definite all-league guy in the CAA.

The kid averaged an efficient 17 and 7 as a freshman. Super consistent. Probably would have been the second or third best player in the league this year if he stayed. That type kid doesn’t usually wind up moving from PL to CAA. He’s gonna be a stud. I’ve seen him in person.

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Patriot League, ECAC Rookie of the Year Joe Pridgen leaves Holy Cross for UNC-Wilmington

Pridgen entered the NCAA transfer portal in late April and heard from several schools, including Arkansas, Georgia, Rhode Island, Richmond and East Carolina, but the University of North Carolina Wilmington stood out to Pridgen and Sunday he announced, via Twitter, his commitment to UNCW.

“Some pretty big name schools called me and that was fun,” Pridgen said in a phone interview Monday afternoon, “but in the end I wanted to go somewhere I was able to kind of continue what I was doing at Holy Cross, but on a higher level, and I felt UNC Wilmington was that spot. Their coaching staff showed a lot of love to me and made me really feel like it can be a spot where I can grow, not only as a basketball player, but as a person. That led to my ultimate decision.”




I would have gone with the best-available grad transfer big...but hard to argue that Pridgen is not a great addition. Hopefully Dodd sticks around and flourishes, and Bowen comes into his own for his senior year.

That was my point about Pridgen. When a guy like that comes along and you have a scholarship, sign him up! He is a proven player at the DI level and we get him for 3 years. If we are looking to build long term success, this is how you do it.

"Pridgen started 29 of 30 games and scored in double figures 24 times. His 521 points were the second most by a freshman in Holy Cross and Patriot League history."

There is no debate the kid can be a stud here. Question is two fold, who is collateral damage, and how do you balance the roster?

I think it's too early to say who will be collateral damage since Pridgen won't be eligible until the 21/22 season. All the guys that the play 3/4 position have shown flashes of what they can be but none have done it consistently. So I think whoever becomes more consistent next season and fits Siddle's system the best will fair ok.

In regards to roster balance, ideally it will be 8 guards and 3 bigs with 1 or 2 transfers into the program each year. Similar to how Keatts built his rosters here.
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(05-21-2020 01:46 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 04:15 PM)82hawk Wrote:  
(05-19-2020 03:39 PM)70shawk Wrote:  Wow... this is an absolute steal for Takayo Siddle and UNCW... Pridgen is a definite all-league guy in the CAA.

The kid averaged an efficient 17 and 7 as a freshman. Super consistent. Probably would have been the second or third best player in the league this year if he stayed. That type kid doesn’t usually wind up moving from PL to CAA. He’s gonna be a stud. I’ve seen him in person.

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Patriot League, ECAC Rookie of the Year Joe Pridgen leaves Holy Cross for UNC-Wilmington

Pridgen entered the NCAA transfer portal in late April and heard from several schools, including Arkansas, Georgia, Rhode Island, Richmond and East Carolina, but the University of North Carolina Wilmington stood out to Pridgen and Sunday he announced, via Twitter, his commitment to UNCW.

“Some pretty big name schools called me and that was fun,” Pridgen said in a phone interview Monday afternoon, “but in the end I wanted to go somewhere I was able to kind of continue what I was doing at Holy Cross, but on a higher level, and I felt UNC Wilmington was that spot. Their coaching staff showed a lot of love to me and made me really feel like it can be a spot where I can grow, not only as a basketball player, but as a person. That led to my ultimate decision.”




I would have gone with the best-available grad transfer big...but hard to argue that Pridgen is not a great addition. Hopefully Dodd sticks around and flourishes, and Bowen comes into his own for his senior year.

That was my point about Pridgen. When a guy like that comes along and you have a scholarship, sign him up! He is a proven player at the DI level and we get him for 3 years. If we are looking to build long term success, this is how you do it.

"Pridgen started 29 of 30 games and scored in double figures 24 times. His 521 points were the second most by a freshman in Holy Cross and Patriot League history."

There is no debate the kid can be a stud here. Question is two fold, who is collateral damage, and how do you balance the roster?

Roster is balanced by year which is why our future looks so good. Only question is if either of the transfers can play this year.
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https://youtu.be/pvRBLcSOtWM

Harvey senior year highlights. Really excited to see him on the floor.
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(05-23-2020 08:12 PM)82hawk Wrote:  https://youtu.be/pvRBLcSOtWM

Harvey senior year highlights. Really excited to see him on the floor.
Sweet looking jumper, pullup, and strong first step. Only critique would be to get stronger with left hand. He always goes back right. College level defenders will exploit that. Kid's got a bright future
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(05-23-2020 08:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 08:12 PM)82hawk Wrote:  https://youtu.be/pvRBLcSOtWM

Harvey senior year highlights. Really excited to see him on the floor.
Sweet looking jumper, pullup, and strong first step. Only critique would be to get stronger with left hand. He always goes back right. College level defenders will exploit that. Kid's got a bright future

Almost every player finishes with one hand. As long as he has the skills to get to the basket and finish, doesn't matter. What I did see is that he can pull up with a jumper whether he drives right or left. That's not easy.
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(05-24-2020 06:38 AM)82hawk Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 08:40 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-23-2020 08:12 PM)82hawk Wrote:  https://youtu.be/pvRBLcSOtWM

Harvey senior year highlights. Really excited to see him on the floor.
Sweet looking jumper, pullup, and strong first step. Only critique would be to get stronger with left hand. He always goes back right. College level defenders will exploit that. Kid's got a bright future

Almost every player finishes with one hand. As long as he has the skills to get to the basket and finish, doesn't matter. What I did see is that he can pull up with a jumper whether he drives right or left. That's not easy.
I gave an honest evaluation with several positives and one critique. Was simply stating if he learns to finish with his left he will be unstoppable.
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5/22/2020 - 2021 PG Jacobi Wright (6-2, 170, 3★) has received an offer from UNCW.
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Sweet. Maybe we’ll be the first team in the history of the NCAA to start 5 PGs. Lol


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My feelings exactly CG.
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(05-27-2020 06:56 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  My feelings exactly CG.

I fully support Siddle and hope we can get back to that winning experience, but this is just really questionable IMO. I know others disagree and that's fine. I'm hoping it works out, but it definitely raises questions.
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(05-27-2020 09:53 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 06:56 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  My feelings exactly CG.

I fully support Siddle and hope we can get back to that winning experience, but this is just really questionable IMO. I know others disagree and that's fine. I'm hoping it works out, but it definitely raises questions.

agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?
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(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 09:53 AM)CG_Hawk06 Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 06:56 AM)billthebighawksfan Wrote:  My feelings exactly CG.

I fully support Siddle and hope we can get back to that winning experience, but this is just really questionable IMO. I know others disagree and that's fine. I'm hoping it works out, but it definitely raises questions.

agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

I don't care about people's feelings. I don't drive an ice cream truck.

I'm also not a Div 1 Basketball coach. Just a regular Joe with an opinion. lol
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(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.
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(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I don't see anyone having a problem with questions. It seems to be it's the added on stabs and demands that looks to be the issue. We are not totally privy to what the process is. We are, more than likely, not seeing the whole picture. Results are seen primarily on the court. So I am willing to wait and see. But also, what are the percentages of a new coach turning the program around into contenders the first year. As usual, like I have with every coach we have ever had, I will give it time to see how the process goes. And yes, I am that old.
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(05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.
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(05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.

You didn't get roasted. One poster counterpointed and he didn't suggest that you weren't entitled to your opinion or that your opinion was wrong because Siddle is above reproach.

There seems to be three schools of thought about Siddle's first 2+ months. 1) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth, but he will compensate for this with style/pace. 2) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth that will have to be addressed in subsequent classes. Or 3) he landed a talented class, it lacks size/post depth and this is emblematic of his philosophy and long term vision.

I know you feel like you're being consistent with your criticism because you had the same concerns with McGrath, but the difference is that we saw that C.B. wasn't going to change his philosophy to fit the roster. You can be worried, but before criticism is fair, we need to see Siddle coach, new players play, in-game adjustments by staff, and a full recruiting cycle. I am hoping that he addresses post depth in future classes.

Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.
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(05-27-2020 03:50 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.

You didn't get roasted. One poster counterpointed and he didn't suggest that you weren't entitled to your opinion or that your opinion was wrong because Siddle is above reproach.

There seems to be three schools of thought about Siddle's first 2+ months. 1) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth, but he will compensate for this with style/pace. 2) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth that will have to be addressed in subsequent classes. Or 3) he landed a talented class, it lacks size/post depth and this is emblematic of his philosophy and long term vision.

I know you feel like you're being consistent with your criticism because you had the same concerns with McGrath, but the difference is that we saw that C.B. wasn't going to change his philosophy to fit the roster. You can be worried, but before criticism is fair, we need to see Siddle coach, new players play, in-game adjustments by staff, and a full recruiting cycle. I am hoping that he addresses post depth in future classes.

Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.

Im not as concerned about lack of size for next year, as I am about our below average 3 point shooting this past year. If the returning players don't improve their shooting then we might be in trouble. With the style of play that Siddle is going to implelment I am confident we can overcome a lack of size next year, but that only works if we are an above average 3 point shooting team. Keatts' teams were lethal from 3.
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(05-27-2020 04:47 PM)Seahawk2010 Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 03:50 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.

You didn't get roasted. One poster counterpointed and he didn't suggest that you weren't entitled to your opinion or that your opinion was wrong because Siddle is above reproach.

There seems to be three schools of thought about Siddle's first 2+ months. 1) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth, but he will compensate for this with style/pace. 2) He landed a talented class; it lacks size/post depth that will have to be addressed in subsequent classes. Or 3) he landed a talented class, it lacks size/post depth and this is emblematic of his philosophy and long term vision.

I know you feel like you're being consistent with your criticism because you had the same concerns with McGrath, but the difference is that we saw that C.B. wasn't going to change his philosophy to fit the roster. You can be worried, but before criticism is fair, we need to see Siddle coach, new players play, in-game adjustments by staff, and a full recruiting cycle. I am hoping that he addresses post depth in future classes.

Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.

Im not as concerned about lack of size for next year, as I am about our below average 3 point shooting this past year. If the returning players don't improve their shooting then we might be in trouble. With the style of play that Siddle is going to implelment I am confident we can overcome a lack of size next year, but that only works if we are an above average 3 point shooting team. Keatts' teams were lethal from 3.

This is a real concern. It's one reason I think Harvey could start as a Freshman. His 3 point shooting numbers were really impressive on the AAU/High school level. If that translates with his athleticism he's got the making of being a really good player. Gadsden can be a deadly from 3 point when he's healthy, unfortunately he's battled injuries his whole career so far. I also think Boggs could be a good 3 point shooter.
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(05-27-2020 01:56 PM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 12:56 PM)bricksnivy Wrote:  
(05-27-2020 11:07 AM)Seahawkhoops Wrote:  agree 100%. But to raise honest questions around here is apparently frowned upon this days. Anyone connected to KK walks on water didn't ya know?

This isn't an honest representation of the discussion. You are worrying about offers without knowing his strategy.

I disagree. See about 5 posts above. I gave an honest evaluation of a guy that looks very promising, with one small critique, i got roasted for the critique. It's not that i'm not on board with Siddle, I am. He has certainly landed some really talented recruits. But i do question the balance in size. If he truly thinks he can get away with no size because he did before(with a generational talent on the roster) as he mentioned in an interview, that's worrisome to me. But, i digress.



Cacok was certainly a unique talent at UNCW, but he was never the key to the team's success under Keatts/Siddle.
couldn't possibly disagree with you more. His rebouding his S- SR years made up for lack of roster size. And THAT, is what people are taking for granted. Take him away and replace him with an average big and the rest of the undersized roster, KK has issues. He was essentially our version of Dennis Rodman on the glass.
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