Quote:A proposed initiative by Silicon Valley venture capitalist Tim Draper to split California into six separate states failed to gather enough signatures to make the November 2016 ballot, the California Secretary of State's office said today.

http://reason.com/24-7/2014/09/12/initia...rnia-fails

(09-03-2014 05:04 PM)JSF Wrote:  

(09-03-2014 12:03 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Not happening. At most California should be made two states but since both would be Democrat strongholds, and PR is a Democrat stronghold; none of them will be admitted as a state till they can find a new state that would add offsetting Republican Senators.

Is that like some latter-day "Slave State/Free State" thing?

Yes.

(09-04-2014 02:37 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  Central California would be the most depressing State in the Union. Low wages, no water, illegal immigrants, no English, and hotter than Hades.

So it'd be Nevada, just without the gambling and the prostitution? :)

Texas is the only state that can divide. As part of joining the union in 1845, Texas was given the right to divide into as many as 5 states, if it chooses to do so.

There has never been a serious movement to pursue that.

(09-07-2014 06:07 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 03:57 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  

(09-07-2014 12:26 PM)hawghiggs Wrote:  The Virgin Islands and Puerto Rico would be another addition that should be made.

As one unified state, or as two states?

Prefer two. But I'd take one.

Puerto Rico has the Spanish Virgin Island it controls right next to the American Virgin Islands. The Virgin Islands only have 106,000 so it makes sense just to have them as a county in Puerto Rico.

(09-03-2014 12:03 PM)49RFootballNow Wrote:  Not happening. At most California should be made two states but since both would be Democrat strongholds, and PR is a Democrat stronghold; none of them will be admitted as a state till they can find a new state that would add offsetting Republican Senators.

The six state breakup would be interesting politically. West California (LAX) and Silicon Valley (SFO) would be left-wing democrat strongholds. Central California would be strongly republican. South and North California would be swing states. I think South (with San Diego and Orange County) would tend more republican than the two elections shown would indicate, and North might tend a bit more democrat. Jefferson would probably be the first state to have a Libertarian governor, senator, congressman, or legislature--or all of the above.

I could live in Jefferson, probably none of the others.

I don't think the senate would want to dilute their power by adding another 10 senators.

I could care less what California does. At this point I honestly don't believe they are capable of fixing their problems.