(01-24-2015 07:50 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: Of course Ross is hurt. God knows how many stitches he has in his tongue. Plus the earlier back problems.
Speculation.... Pure speculation
So why don't you give us your non-speculative reason for his fall off?
Offensively: Ross is a freak athlete who can't shoot the ball or handle it (aside from a couple dribbles to get to the rack). Opponents have been sagging into the paint on him (hence the reason he is shooting more jumpers then usual).
Defensively: Ross is still altering shots, even though he isn't getting blocked. However, he plays a lot of the time with Taylor who is the best defender on the team. Just because he isn't blocking shots, doesn't mean he is ineffective on defense.
Have you watched the last two games? He has been a defensive liability. I won't "speculate" as to why, but his man made a ton of uncontested jumpers in both games.
(01-24-2015 10:40 PM)Monarchblue Wrote: Have you watched the last two games? He has been a defensive liability. I won't "speculate" as to why, but his man made a ton of uncontested jumpers in both games.
One of Ross' main strengths, both offensively and defensively is his vertical spring.
This ability allows him to score, defend taller players, and grab rebounds.
He has not played above the rim in two games. Something is really wrong, IMO.
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(01-24-2015 07:50 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: Of course Ross is hurt. God knows how many stitches he has in his tongue. Plus the earlier back problems.
Speculation.... Pure speculation
So why don't you give us your non-speculative reason for his fall off?
Offensively: Ross is a freak athlete who can't shoot the ball or handle it (aside from a couple dribbles to get to the rack). Opponents have been sagging into the paint on him (hence the reason he is shooting more jumpers then usual).
Defensively: Ross is still altering shots, even though he isn't getting blocked. However, he plays a lot of the time with Taylor who is the best defender on the team. Just because he isn't blocking shots, doesn't mean he is ineffective on defense.
I never said he was a defensive liability. He is still hustling but he is not the defensive presence he used to be. I do think he is now an offensive liability.
Serious question. We have had several "freak athletes", Jonathan Adams and Ross both are what I'm talking about. If a kid is so athletic, why don't they develop more skills and game during four or five years of coaching and practice? Bazemore showed some signs of development, but not as much as one might expect. Just wondering why raw athletic ability doesn't always translate into skill development, and conversely why less physically gifted kids sometimes have more "skill"
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(01-25-2015 09:44 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Serious question. We have had several "freak athletes", Jonathan Adams and Ross both are what I'm talking about. If a kid is so athletic, why don't they develop more skills and game during four or five years of coaching and practice? Bazemore showed some signs of development, but not as much as one might expect. Just wondering why raw athletic ability doesn't always translate into skill development, and conversely why less physically gifted kids sometimes have more "skill"
That kind of fundamental skill is usually developed at a young age... like 5-6 years old. It is very difficult to pick up these skills later in life and less time to do so. There is also the well documented AAU problem. When you are that much more athletic than everyone else, sometimes you become a one trick pony. That one trick might not work at the next level. I don't know Ross's story, just more an overall opinion.
(01-24-2015 07:50 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: Of course Ross is hurt. God knows how many stitches he has in his tongue. Plus the earlier back problems.
Speculation.... Pure speculation
So why don't you give us your non-speculative reason for his fall off?
Offensively: Ross is a freak athlete who can't shoot the ball or handle it (aside from a couple dribbles to get to the rack). Opponents have been sagging into the paint on him (hence the reason he is shooting more jumpers then usual).
Defensively: Ross is still altering shots, even though he isn't getting blocked. However, he plays a lot of the time with Taylor who is the best defender on the team. Just because he isn't blocking shots, doesn't mean he is ineffective on defense.
I never said he was a defensive liability. He is still hustling but he is not the defensive presence he used to be. I do think he is now an offensive liability.
He has always been an offensive liability, as he can only operate within the paint. Pack the paint and he is ineffective.
I never said you said he was a defensive liability. I was merely pointing out that while he hasn't blocked shots lately his presence is still felt on defense
Richard Ross is no one trick pony. He excelled at Track and Field, Baseball, Football and Basketball. However Basketball is the sport he loved and im extremely he came to ODU to play for us.
(01-25-2015 04:22 PM)odu83alumni Wrote: Richard Ross is no one trick pony. He excelled at Track and Field, Baseball, Football and Basketball. However Basketball is the sport he loved and im extremely he came to ODU to play for us.
No one is saying Ross isn't a freak athlete. However, if you were trying to prove that his basketball game isn't limited on the offensive side of the ball because he is great at other sports, you have failed
One thing is sure he makes his usually gets fouled a lot and he is making his free throws at a much better %. Also, you are missing the big picture. Ross is the heart and soul of the team. He fires up the other guys. There is really no`way to account what he does even when he scores little to the confidents of the team. I have seen this and there is plenty of proof for me. Mr. Proof. Damn im beginning to think im on Dragnet. " Just the facts ma'am."
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(01-26-2015 09:01 AM)odu83alumni Wrote: One thing is sure he makes his usually gets fouled a lot and he is making his free throws at a much better %. Also, you are missing the big picture. Ross is the heart and soul of the team. He fires up the other guys. There is really no`way to account what he does even when he scores little to the confidents of the team. I have seen this and there is plenty of proof for me. Mr. Proof. Damn im beginning to think im on Dragnet. " Just the facts ma'am."
You are correct, David.
Ross' flying dunks and jams, his above the rim rebounds both on offense and defense and his blocks - motivates us and intimidates the opposition.
Just-the-facts?
Except for the 10 rebounds vs UNT (along with 1 blk and 2 points in 28 min.) He has been statistically a non factor since the WKY game, even vs Rice.
vs Rice he had 3 reb 0 ast 0 blks and 2 points
vs MTSU he had 4 reb, 1 ast 0 blocks and 0 points
vs UAB he had 1 reb, 0 ast 0 blocks and 2 points
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2015 09:56 AM by ODUalum78.)
(01-26-2015 09:01 AM)odu83alumni Wrote: One thing is sure he makes his usually gets fouled a lot and he is making his free throws at a much better %. Also, you are missing the big picture. Ross is the heart and soul of the team. He fires up the other guys. There is really no`way to account what he does even when he scores little to the confidents of the team. I have seen this and there is plenty of proof for me. Mr. Proof. Damn im beginning to think im on Dragnet. " Just the facts ma'am."
You nailed it, and this made me think that maybe the tongue problem is really a bigger factor than we might believe. He is a vocal emotional leader, and I have to imagine its tough for him to be vocal right now. He and our team probably both feed off of that. Whatever it is, I can't wait until he is healthy and looks like he is having a great time out there again, because without Richard playing 5 inches taller than he is, the lack of interior presence on this team really shows.
On another note. It has become apparent that bigs who step out and shoot mid range to the three point line cause up problems. Our bigs are used to staying under the basket, and our guards need that rim protection. When big men have been able to knock down jumpers, it has kind of blown our entire defense up.
(This post was last modified: 01-26-2015 10:53 AM by Monarchblue.)
(01-26-2015 09:01 AM)odu83alumni Wrote: One thing is sure he makes his usually gets fouled a lot and he is making his free throws at a much better %. Also, you are missing the big picture. Ross is the heart and soul of the team. He fires up the other guys. There is really no`way to account what he does even when he scores little to the confidents of the team. I have seen this and there is plenty of proof for me. Mr. Proof. Damn im beginning to think im on Dragnet. " Just the facts ma'am."
You are correct, David.
Ross' flying dunks and jams, his above the rim rebounds both on offense and defense and his blocks - motivates us and intimidates the opposition.
Just-the-facts?
Except for the 10 rebounds vs UNT (along with 1 blk and 2 points in 28 min.) He has been statistically a non factor since the WKY game, even vs Rice.
vs Rice he had 3 reb 0 ast 0 blks and 2 points
vs MTSU he had 4 reb, 1 ast 0 blocks and 0 points
vs UAB he had 1 reb, 0 ast 0 blocks and 2 points
So I will accept these facts and that he is either hurt or in some other way off his game. Now someone find out what's up, please? Cue the Dragnet music...
(01-26-2015 09:01 AM)odu83alumni Wrote: One thing is sure he makes his usually gets fouled a lot and he is making his free throws at a much better %. Also, you are missing the big picture. Ross is the heart and soul of the team. He fires up the other guys. There is really no`way to account what he does even when he scores little to the confidents of the team. I have seen this and there is plenty of proof for me. Mr. Proof. Damn im beginning to think im on Dragnet. " Just the facts ma'am."
You are correct, David.
Ross' flying dunks and jams, his above the rim rebounds both on offense and defense and his blocks - motivates us and intimidates the opposition.
Just-the-facts?
Except for the 10 rebounds vs UNT (along with 1 blk and 2 points in 28 min.) He has been statistically a non factor since the WKY game, even vs Rice.
vs Rice he had 3 reb 0 ast 0 blks and 2 points
vs MTSU he had 4 reb, 1 ast 0 blocks and 0 points
vs UAB he had 1 reb, 0 ast 0 blocks and 2 points
So I will accept these facts and that he is either hurt or in some other way off his game. Now someone find out what's up, please? Cue the Dragnet music...
The coach's show is tonight. Not many callers this year. Can someone call in and ask about Ross/ and Mosley's injury situation. I will be where i can't call in or I would. I will try to email the question.
How is attendance at the coach's show?
I'd like to be able to make it but I am a coach for my son's bball team and Monday is one of our practice nights.
(01-25-2015 09:44 AM)Old Dominion Wrote: Bazemore showed some signs of development, but not as much as one might expect.
Huh? How much more would you have expected? I panicked every time the dude touched the ball his first year playing. By the end he was the go to stud on the team.
