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Wow...2-3 in our last 5. We have more work to do. We really need to take care of winning at home.

(01-24-2015 07:39 PM)NC Monarch Wrote:  Looks like good CUSA teams and coaches (Davis, Harper, Haase) have found a formula to beat ODU. Even when we are playing CUSA bottom feeders, there will no easy games the rest of the way.

Yep press us out on the perimeter and force hard shots.. Without a true post player it's tough to get open shots when someone is in your face all night ..

Man, UAB is going to be a problem in the C-USA Tournament.

(01-24-2015 07:40 PM)dhart020 Wrote:  I think our at large hopes just died today. Two losses to sub-100 teams in a row probably did us in.

No question about that. It's win the CUSA title or CBI (maybe).

(01-24-2015 09:12 AM)AdoptedMonarch Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 09:07 AM)mac Wrote:  Well folks, what do you think? Can we pull this off? Last win there was in 1985, yikes! Hope the guys are ready to bring it!

I have replenished my back-fridge supply of O'Connors Beer -- just in case there are sorrows that need to be drowned.

Thank God for advance planning.

(01-24-2015 07:33 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  I'm not an X and O person but how does a zone lep you when they are shooting close to 70% from three?

It is amazing how this fan base ca be so volatile. I think some of us need some Prozac.

It doesn't. You go to a zone if a team is killing you from the paint and aren't good three point shooters.

People think that every team can play zone. There is a reason why certain teams rely solely on zone defense (think Syracuse and Illinois State), it is what they practice day in and day out.

Amazing how people are complaining about the recruiting, but are wanting us to "upgrade" one of our players to a MAAC student-athlete.

Amazing how people are declaring Ross to be a subpar basketball player (if you take away his freak athleticism) but wanted him to play the 3.

Amazing how some people want to criticize every call the coaching staff makes, but probably have no experience in D1 basketball except for being a fan. I am willing to bet money that the majority of people on this board (pretty much all) didn't play college basketball. Let alone D1.

So when people on this board try to pass their noneducated opinion on what the coaching staff should be doing, I laugh because I seriously doubt those passing judgment every two seconds played a second of D1 ball.

Again.

Can someone tell me a single adjustment we made (and don't give me the garbage token full court pressure) that we made offensively or defensively?

I saw none. I saw a team get picked apart over and over in man to man, allowing them to shoot 70% from the floor and not a single adjustment to try and stop them or change things up.

I'm sorry, but that's piss poor coaching. One trick pony's get old quick.

No Damn Defense. Very hard to watch.

(01-24-2015 07:41 PM)IronMonarch Wrote:  My report cart for the game:

Bacote and Freeman: B (need to create more shots for your supporting cast. I know our only offense was through them this game, but we are way too one dimensional and this "team" has completely lost face now. Where are the dribble drives for the wide open 3 point shots from Mosley and Baker? Still, these guys did well)

Supporting guards: D (they did pretty much nothing the entire game)

Inside game: D- (pure garbage. Out-rebounded. Didn't stop anything on defense. Zero shots created, too many turnovers)

Coaching: F (lost a lot of respect for our "game" and "system" today. Zone needed to be played in the first half and second half, but we didnt go to it. Our offense was one dimensional and seemed to have been drawn up on a playground by a middle schooler...aka, let your two best players dribble the ball around and shoot it before the shot clock runs out. Not once did I see us play any inside out game. Not once did a forward flash to the top of the key for a pass. Not once did I see our screens actually give us an open shot, which is astounding since UAB was playing man to man the entire game..... F)

Unfortunately, I have to agree. Lots of work to do. For some reason, we have completely lost our way. I just don't understand. Wtf?

Too much reliance on RPI.. UAB and WKU are much better than the RPI next to their name. CUSA is a tough conference.. How do you explain UTEP dropping 2 back to back as well on the road... Getting back home will cure this sting..

(01-24-2015 07:43 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:33 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  I'm not an X and O person but how does a zone lep you when they are shooting close to 70% from three?

It is amazing how this fan base ca be so volatile. I think some of us need some Prozac.

It doesn't. You go to a zone if a team is killing you from the paint and aren't good three point shooters.

People think that every team can play zone. There is a reason why certain teams rely solely on zone defense (think Syracuse and Illinois State), it is what they practice day in and day out.

Amazing how people are complaining about the recruiting, but are wanting us to "upgrade" one of our players to a MAAC student-athlete.

Amazing how people are declaring Ross to be a subpar basketball player (if you take away his freak athleticism) but wanted him to play the 3.

Amazing how some people want to criticize every call the coaching staff makes, but probably have no experience in D1 basketball except for being a fan. I am willing to bet money that the majority of people on this board (pretty much all) didn't play college basketball. Let alone D1.

So when people on this board try to pass their noneducated opinion on what the coaching staff should be doing, I laugh because I seriously doubt those passing judgment every two seconds played a second of D1 ball.

Ha, very lengthy version of the "Your opinion is invalidated because you haven't played college basketball."

(01-24-2015 07:43 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:33 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  I'm not an X and O person but how does a zone lep you when they are shooting close to 70% from three?

It is amazing how this fan base ca be so volatile. I think some of us need some Prozac.

It doesn't. You go to a zone if a team is killing you from the paint and aren't good three point shooters.

People think that every team can play zone. There is a reason why certain teams rely solely on zone defense (think Syracuse and Illinois State), it is what they practice day in and day out.

Amazing how people are complaining about the recruiting, but are wanting us to "upgrade" one of our players to a MAAC student-athlete.

Amazing how people are declaring Ross to be a subpar basketball player (if you take away his freak athleticism) but wanted him to play the 3.

Amazing how some people want to criticize every call the coaching staff makes, but probably have no experience in D1 basketball except for being a fan. I am willing to bet money that the majority of people on this board (pretty much all) didn't play college basketball. Let alone D1.

So when people on this board try to pass their noneducated opinion on what the coaching staff should be doing, I laugh because I seriously doubt those passing judgment every two seconds played a second of D1 ball.

You don't need to know S...about basketball to see what is right in front of your face. Compared to upper level CUSA teams, we're undersized and don't have much in the way of truly skilled players.

(01-24-2015 07:43 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:33 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  I'm not an X and O person but how does a zone lep you when they are shooting close to 70% from three?

It is amazing how this fan base ca be so volatile. I think some of us need some Prozac.

It doesn't. You go to a zone if a team is killing you from the paint and aren't good three point shooters.

People think that every team can play zone. There is a reason why certain teams rely solely on zone defense (think Syracuse and Illinois State), it is what they practice day in and day out.

Amazing how people are complaining about the recruiting, but are wanting us to "upgrade" one of our players to a MAAC student-athlete.

Amazing how people are declaring Ross to be a subpar basketball player (if you take away his freak athleticism) but wanted him to play the 3.

Amazing how some people want to criticize every call the coaching staff makes, but probably have no experience in D1 basketball except for being a fan. I am willing to bet money that the majority of people on this board (pretty much all) didn't play college basketball. Let alone D1.

So when people on this board try to pass their noneducated opinion on what the coaching staff should be doing, I laugh because I seriously doubt those passing judgment every two seconds played a second of D1 ball.

Why is this garbage being allowed on this board? If you don't want every thread to go down the drain, t-Mac needs to be given a timeout.

I'm not going to bother responding to this garbage because the simple fact that he doesn't understand how a zone can be useful is enough to let me know about the actual depth of knowledge this poster is "blessed" with.

But the passive aggressive pseudo responses are beyond tiresome.

(01-24-2015 07:41 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  JJ is what he is. A career .57% winner (or there abouts).We'll be a 57% team or there abouts.

Come on, ease up on JJ. Just three weeks ago everyone was saying he was the best coach in the universe. Then we go up against a couple of teams on road who have their best games of the season, and he's a goat. I'm not buying that for a minute. We were able to sneak into the top 25 for a week for the first time ever, but, face it, we're not a top 25 team.

We need to regroup, keep competing. If we lose to a team that is better on a given night, suck it up and move on. UAB was great tonight. ODU, not so much. Time to get up, dust ourselves off, and try it again for the first time.

UAB is better than us right now. Won at MT, beat us and nearly won at La Tech. They are going to be the team to beat in the near future with that length. Good grief, 6'9 Mr Basketball in Alabama as a freshman. They have real talent and we are clearly in a rut because the book is out on us.

(01-24-2015 07:42 PM)ODUR8R Wrote:  Man, UAB is going to be a problem in the C-USA Tournament.

So will MT, WKU, LT, UNCC...

(01-24-2015 07:43 PM)Justanodufan Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:33 PM)Monarch Homselr Wrote:  I'm not an X and O person but how does a zone lep you when they are shooting close to 70% from three?

It is amazing how this fan base ca be so volatile. I think some of us need some Prozac.

It doesn't. You go to a zone if a team is killing you from the paint and aren't good three point shooters.

People think that every team can play zone. There is a reason why certain teams rely solely on zone defense (think Syracuse and Illinois State), it is what they practice day in and day out.

Amazing how people are complaining about the recruiting, but are wanting us to "upgrade" one of our players to a MAAC student-athlete.

Amazing how people are declaring Ross to be a subpar basketball player (if you take away his freak athleticism) but wanted him to play the 3.

Amazing how some people want to criticize every call the coaching staff makes, but probably have no experience in D1 basketball except for being a fan. I am willing to bet money that the majority of people on this board (pretty much all) didn't play college basketball. Let alone D1.

So when people on this board try to pass their noneducated opinion on what the coaching staff should be doing, I laugh because I seriously doubt those passing judgment every two seconds played a second of D1 ball.

Many teams play multiple defenses. If the staff doesn't have a zone in there back pocket to pull out when needed, shame on them. And you are the one showing your lack of knowledge by implying that playing zone cannot stop teams from getting open looks from the perimeter. That may be true in farm league, but in college basketball that couldn't be farther from reality. In fact, nearly everybody plays some zone since they cracked down on hand checking a couple years ago.

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(01-24-2015 07:47 PM)Monarch Blue Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:41 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  JJ is what he is. A career .57% winner (or there abouts).We'll be a 57% team or there abouts.

Come on, ease up on JJ. Just three weeks ago everyone was saying he was the best coach in the universe. Then we go up against a couple of teams on road who have their best games of the season, and he's a goat. I'm not buying that for a minute. We were able to sneak into the top 25 for a week for the first time ever, but, face it, we're not a top 25 team.

We need to regroup, keep competing. If we lose to a team that is better on a given night, suck it up and move on. UAB was great tonight. ODU, not so much. Time to get up, dust ourselves off, and try it again for the first time.

+1

Heck Marshall beat UTEP today. It happens

(01-24-2015 07:47 PM)Monarch Blue Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:41 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  JJ is what he is. A career .57% winner (or there abouts).We'll be a 57% team or there abouts.

Come on, ease up on JJ. Just three weeks ago everyone was saying he was the best coach in the universe. Then we go up against a couple of teams on road who have their best games of the season, and he's a goat. I'm not buying that for a minute. We were able to sneak into the top 25 for a week for the first time ever, but, face it, we're not a top 25 team.

We need to regroup, keep competing. If we lose to a team that is better on a given night, suck it up and move on. UAB was great tonight. ODU, not so much. Time to get up, dust ourselves off, and try it again for the first time.

these Kids can dust themselves off all they want. They will beat most of the bottom feeder teams and lose to most of the upper tier teams. It isn't dissing on anybody. It's my take on what I see. UAB would be better 9 nights out of 10. This year we're mdiocre. Time will tell if JJ can recruit well enough to lift us beyond that.

(01-24-2015 07:47 PM)Monarch Blue Wrote:  

(01-24-2015 07:41 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  JJ is what he is. A career .57% winner (or there abouts).We'll be a 57% team or there abouts.

Come on, ease up on JJ. Just three weeks ago everyone was saying he was the best coach in the universe. Then we go up against a couple of teams on road who have their best games of the season, and he's a goat. I'm not buying that for a minute. We were able to sneak into the top 25 for a week for the first time ever, but, face it, we're not a top 25 team.

We need to regroup, keep competing. If we lose to a team that is better on a given night, suck it up and move on. UAB was great tonight. ODU, not so much. Time to get up, dust ourselves off, and try it again for the first time.

Even without playing D1 ball.. This makes sense others remind of of undisciplined children with a new toy..