(06-08-2016 08:21 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (06-08-2016 08:06 AM)ODU BBALL Wrote: (06-08-2016 05:06 AM)EverRespect Wrote: (06-07-2016 11:38 PM)ODU BBALL Wrote: (06-07-2016 07:44 PM)EverRespect Wrote: Maybe it is just me, but Im hoping for 0 meaningful walk on minutes next season.
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It's just you. Fields is a good player and I would not be surprised if he doesn't end up getting a scholarship this year if we have one unused come October. Also, what if one or both of the Stith brothers are not on scholarship but suited up as a walk on?
So Fields is better than Green? Why did Green get an offer (among others) and Fields didn't? The Stiths have nothing to do with this.
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Where did I say that Fields is better than Green? I didn't. For the record, I don't know which of those two will turn out to be the better player, or that both will even end up playing point guard.
For you to say, "Maybe it is just me, but Im hoping for 0 meaningful walk on minutes next season.", and then say, "The Stiths have nothing to do with this." is simply something no one on here would agree with IF one or both of the Stiths are not on the team under scholarship. Obviously both of them are being counted on heavily the next couple of seasons.
How the Stiths' college is paid for is immaterial to this discussion. They are scholarship athletes whose dad happens to be an assistant coach. Brandan had offers from ECU, Charlotte, and VCU with interest from Duke, Richmond, UVA, and Wake Forest. BJ committed to UVA when he was a sophomore in high school. Both would have a free ride just anywhere in the country if they decided to transfer tomorrow. Your attempt to compare them to Travis Fields, Stephen Vassor, Martin Shaw, and Nik Biberaj only serves as a distraction to the discussion. If Fields is the next Steph Curry or even Trey Freeman, I'll be happy to eat crow. While that does happen, chances are very low and I'm just not counting on it.
Well don't let the facts get in the way of your incorrect comments about not wanting to see ANY walk on get significant minutes this season. By definition a walk on is someone not receiving a scholarship (period, end of story). The Stiths may or may not be receiving one. It doesn't matter what private person or persons is paying for a walk on to attend college, including Mr. Stith. It doesn't matter if the player is not very good or is the best player in college basketball, they are still designated as being a walk on! We don't know for sure if they are walk on or scholarship players, (nor do I really care one way or another). It is however a fact that you obviously neglected to take into account prior to your statement and are now trying to cover up with rhetoric.
Just to make it clear since you seem to have a difficult time following along without implying things as fact that were neither said or implied by the other person ... NO. I AM NOT NOW NOR WAS I EVER COMPARING THE STITH BROTHERS TO TRAVIS FIELDS, STEPHEN VASSOR, MARTIN SHAW, OR NIK BIBERAJ AS FAR AS BASKETBALL TALENT GOES. WAS ONLY COMPARING THEM AS FAR AS WHAT IS GERMAIN TO YOUR ORIGINAL COMMENT ... WHICH IS ABOUT THEM POSSIBLY BEING WALK ONS.
Furthermore, YOUR attempt to compare Travis Fields (as a walk on) to Stephen Vassor, Martin Shaw, or Nik Biberaj (other walk ons) is what really is misguided and serves as a distraction to your own original comment. Have you seen Fields' high school basketball resume (and as a true point guard no less which Green may or may not be best suited for in college)? I would venture to say that if you took away the names on each player's basketball resume (Fields & Green) and strictly looked at their accomplishments that Fields might well get the higher grade. It would certainly surpass the high school resumes of Vassor, Shaw, and Biberaj. To imply by the association that Fields isn't worthy of being anything more than a walk on, even this year, is in fact nuts. He could easily be on scholarship this season and if I remember correctly the coach said that he was going to walk on this season and get a scholarship the next 3 years. I don't know for sure but I took that to mean that he had an additional player or two that he was still hoping to sign that would require any remaining scholarships. If that falls through he could possibly even get his scholarship this season. At any rate, the coach obviously views Fields as a
(scholarship athlete) too so your argument regarding that being different from the Stiths is simply wrong.
Also, so you don't go misquoting me again, I too have every reason to believe that Green is going to be a stellar player for ODU if he is here for 4-5 years. I have similar beliefs regarding Fields too if he stays for 4-5 years. I also believe that Fields is but one piece of the puzzle that ODU is pursuing from this past years Norcom team and we will be even stronger if we get the other piece or two to come and join him.
Lastly, to say that Fields has to be the next coming of Steph Curry or even Trey Freeman in order to have your approval (and you will be happy to eat crow) is again nuts.
What standard (past college star or NBA player of the year) are you saying that Green is going to live up to since you apparently have already given him that level of approval?
By the way ... ODU didn't recruit Trey Freeman out of high school and I believe he got very few scholarship offers at all. When it was all said and done, I'm pretty sure he could have played at numerous P5 conference schools, but they missed the boat with him didn't they? Couldn't possibly be the case with Fields though could it? Well at least not unless he comes in and plays like either a two time 1st Team All CUSA member *Freeman*, or the two time NBA regular season MVP *Curry*. Yeah, that's fair. Tell you what ... If he ends up playing like Step Curry while he is at ODU then I will join you at the table in eating that Crow.
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