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After a season in the weight room I bet he looks much more athletic. In that video he looks like a hs kid with a really quick release. Looks smooth and fairly effortless. I like!

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10-26-2015 08:07 PM
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I like the head fake to get his defender in the air, then blows by him to get a wide open look. Nice move.
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(10-26-2015 05:31 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 10:49 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Here is a good article about Tre Evans' committment to ODU by Dave Johnson of the DP. I like what he had to say about coach Jones.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-okla...-post.html

What I find interesting is Evans' discussion of Jones' system being a good fit for him. Was not too long ago that we were lamenting not landing highly-regarded recruits while we were playing successful, yet rock-fight style, basketball. Many contended that the rock-fight style discouraged some potential recruits in the past; now it looks as if the freedom given Freeman and the guards is working in our favor. Personally, I was vocally worried when Jones was hired that his system would be brutal to watch and too slow. Like much of that hiring process, I was wrong and very happy to be so.

I think JJ has what is referred to as gravitas. Although he spent some years in the wilderness of the Patriot League, he still posesses everything that got him to the fairly high points he reached both as a player and a coach at UVA. I think he knows the higher caliber kids are within his reach at ODU in a way that few if any previous ODU coaches have. I'm guessing that to some extent recruits can sense that. I believe that is why our program's ceiling got raised as a result of hiring Jeff Jones.
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That's pretty disrespectful to BT. You also have no way of knowing any of that. Probably best if you leave the personal attacks of former coaches off these message boards.
10-26-2015 09:51 PM
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(10-26-2015 09:42 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 05:31 PM)ODUsmitty Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 10:49 AM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  Here is a good article about Tre Evans' committment to ODU by Dave Johnson of the DP. I like what he had to say about coach Jones.

http://www.dailypress.com/sports/dp-okla...-post.html

What I find interesting is Evans' discussion of Jones' system being a good fit for him. Was not too long ago that we were lamenting not landing highly-regarded recruits while we were playing successful, yet rock-fight style, basketball. Many contended that the rock-fight style discouraged some potential recruits in the past; now it looks as if the freedom given Freeman and the guards is working in our favor. Personally, I was vocally worried when Jones was hired that his system would be brutal to watch and too slow. Like much of that hiring process, I was wrong and very happy to be so.

I think a major difference between BT and JJ is what is generally referred to as gravitas. BT was a down-home kind of guy, who while tough, and straight forward, never seemed to have the same coaching chops as JJ. To use a boxing analogy, I believe JJ to be a smooth prizefighter who worked his way up the ranks, and is a true tactician, whereas BT was more of a street brawler, who almost always had a punchers chance.

I think when it came to recruiting BT was more limited because of his style and background. Although JJ spent some years in the wilderness of the Patriot League, he still posesses everything that got him to the fairly high points he reached both as a player and a coach at UVA. I think he knows the higher caliber kids are within his reach, and it seems like BT never quite felt that way. I'm guessing that to some extent recruits can sense that. None of this is to discount that BT was a very good coach for ODU, or his background at Montana, and Stanford, but more to state the reasons why I think ODU's ceiling became much higher as a result of hiring Jeff Jones.

Well put. I think that's a very accurate statement.

I was worried about jj's time "in the wilderness" as well and how quickly he would be able to get back to that UVA level, if he was able at all, at least from a recruiting standpoint.

I never questioned his actual coaching ability, the guy has been a winner everywhere he has gone.

Now that he's recruiting at a high level once again, the sky is the limit.
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(10-26-2015 09:51 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  That's pretty disrespectful to BT. You also have no way of knowing any of that. Probably best if you leave the personal attacks of former coaches off these message boards.

Ugh. Just stop.
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(10-26-2015 09:51 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  That's pretty disrespectful to BT. You also have no way of knowing any of that. Probably best if you leave the personal attacks of former coaches off these message boards.

I have edited my post so that it contains only positives regarding Jeff Jones, and has no mention of past coaches by name. I realize BT did some great things for the ODU bball program, and meant him no disrespect.

Thank you for pointing that out, and should the need ever arise, please feel free to use that example as a template of how to be open to suggestion, and thoughtful toward fellow posters.
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We could have used a little bit of that toughness last season. Maybe that would have pushed into the NCAAs, a place BT took us four times.
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Now, let's get Kah! Only a couple more weeks to signing day.
10-27-2015 05:24 AM
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(10-26-2015 09:56 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 09:51 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  That's pretty disrespectful to BT. You also have no way of knowing any of that. Probably best if you leave the personal attacks of former coaches off these message boards.

I have edited my post so that it contains only positives regarding Jeff Jones, and has no mention of past coaches by name. I realize BT did some great things for the ODU bball program, and meant him no disrespect.

Thank you for pointing that out, and should the need ever arise, please feel free to use that example as a template of how to be open to suggestion, and thoughtful toward fellow posters.
Thanks. I've found that discussions are most productive and educational when nobody says anything that anyone disagrees with.
10-27-2015 05:45 AM
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That's not a discussion
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(10-27-2015 05:45 AM)T-Mac Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 09:56 PM)paintedblue2 Wrote:  
(10-26-2015 09:51 PM)T-Mac Wrote:  That's pretty disrespectful to BT. You also have no way of knowing any of that. Probably best if you leave the personal attacks of former coaches off these message boards.

I have edited my post so that it contains only positives regarding Jeff Jones, and has no mention of past coaches by name. I realize BT did some great things for the ODU bball program, and meant him no disrespect.

Thank you for pointing that out, and should the need ever arise, please feel free to use that example as a template of how to be open to suggestion, and thoughtful toward fellow posters.
Thanks. I've found that discussions are most productive and educational when nobody says anything that anyone disagrees with.

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(10-27-2015 06:56 AM)jumpshooter Wrote:  That's not a discussion

I was hoping his comment was sarcasm but who knows.
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May have been. Sorry if it was
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DaBig, thanks yet again. You have been the number one source of recruiting news here and other places for years. Thank you!
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For Informational Purposes:

Clint Jackson ‏@clintjackson1 · 20h20 hours ago
Since his arrival at Oak Hill, 2017 PG Matt Coleman has started to hear from some new schools. Kansas, Kentucky and Duke, he tells Rivals.

https://twitter.com/mattcoleman2_

Looks like a big longshot (if it wasn't already). I guess the coaches know what kind of shot they actually have, and whether or not it's worth putting a ton of resources for Matt.
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(10-28-2015 10:00 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  For Informational Purposes:

Clint Jackson ‏@clintjackson1 · 20h20 hours ago
Since his arrival at Oak Hill, 2017 PG Matt Coleman has started to hear from some new schools. Kansas, Kentucky and Duke, he tells Rivals.

https://twitter.com/mattcoleman2_

Looks like a big longshot (if it wasn't already). I guess the coaches know what kind of shot they actually have, and whether or not it's worth putting a ton of resources for Matt.

I think a lot of us saw this coming. I think we still go after him.
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I think you just ask the kid: Are you interested? You know us, know the school, been to our games. If there's no interest, thanks and we'll move on. I thought the fact that they've signed what amounts to 3 guards takes care of Mr. Coleman.
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