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There's a story in the VP about the UNCheat academic scandal being much bigger than previously thought. I guess that means the NCAA will be so mad at UNC, that they'll give ODU the death penalty! At the least, Pervier won't win his appeal for a second year of eligibility.

yeah, pervier is screwed. probably the biggest loser in all of this.

The Wainstein Report is 136 pages. Here are some excerpts...
http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2014/10...arism.html

(10-22-2014 01:54 PM)Maryland Monarch Wrote:  There's a story in the VP about the UNCheat academic scandal being much bigger than previously thought. I guess that means the NCAA will be so mad at UNC, that they'll give ODU the death penalty! At the least, Pervier won't win his appeal for a second year of eligibility.

I think everyone who followed the story closely knew how big it is, but ESPN wasn't interested in covering it, presumably because Jameis Winston doesn't play there, so those who didn't have a strong interest in the story weren't aware of the depth of it. I am sure now that everything has starting being brought out to the public, we will still hear a lot more about Jameis, crablegs, and a rape that has been found to lack evidence by what seems to be damn near every law enforcement agency in America though.

FYI - Interesting that the HC at JMU, Withers, refused to be interviewed or to cooperate with the investigation (last page of the official report). Wonder how the folks at JMU feel about that? I have also been told that if the NCAA follows up he will not have the option to refuse.

Living in central NC, this has been the subject of sports talk radio here for four years, of course, it dominated today. Hard to believe it went on for 18 years.

Unbelievable.
It doesn't even fall under the category of "lack of institutional control", as UNC was completely in control; to the highest levels.

This makes what SMU did look no worse than inadvertently peeing on the seat in the men's room.

(10-22-2014 06:54 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  Unbelievable.
It doesn't even fall under the category of "lack of institutional control", as UNC was completely in control; to the highest levels.

This makes what SMU did look no worse than inadvertently peeing on the seat in the men's room.

And yet, I somehow have a feeling UNC will get to skate on all this mess. Hope I am wrong but just a feeling I have.

(10-22-2014 05:27 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  FYI - Interesting that the HC at JMU, Withers, refused to be interviewed or to cooperate with the investigation (last page of the official report). Wonder how the folks at JMU feel about that? I have also been told that if the NCAA follows up he will not have the option to refuse.

This outta be good....!

Now I am sure the NCAA is going sanction Fishburne Military School's basketball program, just to give Donte Hill one final screwing.

From the AAC board - priceless!

(10-22-2014 04:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Gladly....I hope they throw the book at UNC. It will the be first time many of their athletes actually have seen one.

(10-22-2014 08:10 PM)ODUalum78 Wrote:  From the ACC board - priceless!

(10-22-2014 04:58 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Gladly....I hope they throw the book at UNC. It will the be first time many of their athletes actually have seen one.

lmao that's hilarious.

(10-22-2014 05:27 PM)ETSUDB8-79 Wrote:  FYI - Interesting that the HC at JMU, Withers, refused to be interviewed or to cooperate with the investigation (last page of the official report). Wonder how the folks at JMU feel about that? I have also been told that if the NCAA follows up he will not have the option to refuse.

Unc is submitted the report to the NCAA. Not sure why that didn't work for Penn State. Be interesting to see what they get (punishment wise). Way worse than FSU or Minnesota. Both schools lost records, scholarships, and postseason play. Hell Bowden lost some wins. Could they get the death penalty? It'll be interesting to see how this plays out over the next couple months

SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

(10-24-2014 07:50 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

Heh.

Don't they just vacate the wins though? I don't think we get to claim it do we?

(10-24-2014 09:50 AM)djnva Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 07:50 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

Heh.

Don't they just vacate the wins though? I don't think we get to claim it do we?

well, if they vacate the win it means they didn't win which means we didn't lose. I'll take that.

(10-24-2014 10:31 AM)ODU_NYG Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 09:50 AM)djnva Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 07:50 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

Heh.

Don't they just vacate the wins though? I don't think we get to claim it do we?

well, if they vacate the win it means they didn't win which means we didn't lose. I'll take that.

Yeah, off the record and out of the history books. After all, if we weren't technically CAA champs in 2012, why not?

I don't want the win, I just want to be able to say that 80-20 NEVER HAPPENED.

EDIT: Looks like the NCAA may have a policy: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:W..._victories

UNC wouldn't count the win, but we still count the loss. BOOOOOO!!!!

(10-24-2014 07:50 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

Dont be like that. Some Tech fans tried to claim the same thing when it was thought that USC would have to vacate all of their 2004 wins, and it would put a win in Techs vtop 5 infamous record. It was sad how some were adamant it was a legit victory six years after the fact.

(10-24-2014 01:15 PM)ODUChm Wrote:  

(10-24-2014 07:50 AM)ODUBB35 Wrote:  SO... that means that technically, last year's football game at UNC could turn out to be a victory...

Dont be like that. Some Tech fans tried to claim the same thing when it was thought that USC would have to vacate all of their 2004 wins, and it would put a win in Techs vtop 5 infamous record. It was sad how some were adamant it was a legit victory six years after the fact.

No worries. All tongue in cheek. ODU deserves 3 losses for that performance.