Thanks for the video, Sam. I am that much more excited about Bond.

Steve, is there talk about him having PG qualities too? Or is it just that we are clogged at the 2? If he fills out a little I can see him as a 3 with that height and hop.

(10-22-2014 01:56 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  Thanks for the video, Sam. I am that much more excited about Bond.

Steve, is there talk about him having PG qualities too? Or is it just that we are clogged at the 2? If he fills out a little I can see him as a 3 with that height and hop.

If I'm correct, our PGs for 2014/15 are MT III and Bond. That seems to be the buzz from Ypsi.

I can see him splitting time at PG with MT III this year and being the PG of the future for 2015 and beyond.

I wonder if Murphy looked at Bond and thought "Michael Carter-Williams" 6'6" PG from Syracuse and now NBA player.

Both have the same approximate size (6' 5" 175 in h.s.) and the ability to play the point. (P.S. I wonder, will check, who played PG at Baltimore City Collegiate last year).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Carter-Williams

BTW, guys, October 28, at the Rec/IM the players will be there for a scrimmage.

http://www.emueagles.com/news/2014/10/22...ath=mbball

We'll get our first clues as to what Price can do from down deep. Bond as a tall PG. Hunter as a post player (5/4).

Now if we can only wait and then on October 29 we'll be waiting for November 14...

God I wish I could go to that. Living on the other side of the state is a killer.

Hopefully some from the board are able to go and relay some info for all of us!

(10-22-2014 02:44 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  God I wish I could go to that. Living on the other side of the state is a killer.

Hopefully some from the board are able to go and relay some info for all of us!

What is neat is that it is a 12 minute scrimmage. (no need to drive two hours Sam for 12 minutes, probably running time. ).

It will be neat to see Talley v. Bond, Lee v. Price, Ward v. ?, Ajayi v. Hunter, etc.

nice video! i can't believe none of the other guys reacted after that dunk.

(10-22-2014 04:21 PM)EMUAARON Wrote:  nice video! i can't believe none of the other guys reacted after that dunk.

Are they so used to seeing it from him?

(10-22-2014 01:02 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Just thought I'd put this in here. Tim Bond making a between the legs dunk look like a walk in the park:

http://instagram.com/p/tvLiwxubzL/

This guy has me ready for basketball season. Bring on Oakland.

Is Antonio Green an assistant coach now ?

(10-22-2014 09:44 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  Is Antonio Green an assistant coach now ?

No he's the varsity coach at Dearborn Heights Robichaud. I'm pretty sure he's been training Ray Lee and some other guys on the team over the offseason though. It looks like he's still pretty close to the team. That's good to see. He was a smart player...I'm sure he'll be a hell of a coach.

Thanks for answer. I had a lot of respect that guy too

(10-22-2014 01:45 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-22-2014 01:36 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  If Bond can play the point effectively, that's just downright scary. 6'6, fast as hell, great athlete, decent shot (from what I can tell in his highlights). I'd settle for keeping him off the ball, but if he can play PG, that's a rare breed. I'm excited to finally see him in action.

Let me put some 'analytic thinking' which I learned, I think, at EMU:

1). EMU has Raven Lee and Jodan Price, both sophomores, at the SG position.

2). These highlights of PG/SG Bond come from Antonio Green.

3). EMU recruited Larry Bonam from Dearborn Heights Robichaud as a JUCO transfer, with junior eligibility, but who has a 'relationship' with Antonio Green (is Antonio Green a coach at Robichaud?).

Assume you are Antonio Green, and not EMU Steve, what is going through your head when Bonam asks for his opinion???

Let me revisit this post:

You (Antonio Green) are a coach at Bonam's h.s. You (Green) played ball at EMU.

Yet, Bonam asks for advice about EMU and he mentions Lee, Price, Bond as SGs and asks about PT at SG? What do you tell him?

That said, do you say: "If you can play, they'll find a spot and you'll get time?"

IF Bond gets much time at SG, as a combo guard, we'll be super deep at that position unless Price gets much time at SF.

I have read Murphy's comments in the Blue Ribbon book. Had some interesting thoughts like Bond is a PG and has a chance to start. Alvano has been a pleasant surprise and won't redshirt. Reading between the lines, Nobles sounds like a redshirt candidate. Price will back up at both SG and SF.

So we have Talley/Bond at PG, Lee/Price at SG, Ward/Price at SF, Ajayi/Hunter/Samuels at center, and Okaloji/Nazione at PF.

And two good frosh candidates and one candidate for redshirt (the ONE FROM MICHIGAN).

Now we can return to our b.s. thread on men's basketball... Lol.

Bond has a chance to start? Wow. That would be quite a surprise if he beat out Talley, who many believe to be the leader and catalyst of this team. I'll just be happy if he can spell Talley so we don't run Mike's legs into the ground.

If both Bond and Alvano are ready to play from day one, I'm much more comfortable with our back court depth. Talley-Lee-Price-Bond-Alvano isn't a bad group of five. I had a hunch that either Okoloji or Nazione would be the other starting forward, but not sure which one. They add a bit more size and allow smaller defenders to have to deal with Ward. Okoloji has some solid D1 experience, so he may be the guy.

(10-23-2014 02:10 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Bond has a chance to start? Wow. That would be quite a surprise if he beat out Talley, who many believe to be the leader and catalyst of this team. I'll just be happy if he can spell Talley so we don't run Mike's legs into the ground.

If both Bond and Alvano are ready to play from day one, I'm much more comfortable with our back court depth. Talley-Lee-Price-Bond-Alvano isn't a bad group of five. I had a hunch that either Okoloji or Nazione would be the other starting forward, but not sure which one. They add a bit more size and allow smaller defenders to have to deal with Ward. Okoloji has some solid D1 experience, so he may be the guy.

I don't want to post too much of the material here. An interested person can buy a downloadable PDF version for a tad over $15.

Interesting Nobles supposedly is a shooter and can play both F positions (EagleSam always says the two are kind of interchangeable anyway).

I assume that Okoloji will start at '4' and be more of a defensive player.

One FUNNY bit: Some website says Ward is a top (15???) defender. Murphy said that Ward needed to improve his defense.

I believe Murphy more then what I read of the "Internet".

(10-23-2014 03:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 02:10 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Bond has a chance to start? Wow. That would be quite a surprise if he beat out Talley, who many believe to be the leader and catalyst of this team. I'll just be happy if he can spell Talley so we don't run Mike's legs into the ground.

If both Bond and Alvano are ready to play from day one, I'm much more comfortable with our back court depth. Talley-Lee-Price-Bond-Alvano isn't a bad group of five. I had a hunch that either Okoloji or Nazione would be the other starting forward, but not sure which one. They add a bit more size and allow smaller defenders to have to deal with Ward. Okoloji has some solid D1 experience, so he may be the guy.

I don't want to post too much of the material here. An interested person can buy a downloadable PDF version for a tad over $15.

Interesting Nobles supposedly is a shooter and can play both F positions (EagleSam always says the two are kind of interchangeable anyway).

I assume that Okoloji will start at '4' and be more of a defensive player.

One FUNNY bit: Some website says Ward is a top (15???) defender. Murphy said that Ward needed to improve his defense.

I believe Murphy more then what I read of the "Internet".

In the zone, the 3 and 4 are basically one in the same, as well as in the completely basic motion offense that Murphy "runs". So Nobles is just a "forward", like Ward, Nazione, etc. If Nobles can shoot (a "stretch forward", we'll call it), then that would be quite a weapon and maybe he doesn't get redshirted. However, he needs to add some bulk, so it might be for the best to sit him a year.

As for Ward's defense, I remember Murph taking him out a few times for having Glenn Bryant syndrome, closing out on a shooter half-assed, and watching said shooter drive right around him. But when he was on, he was ON. I remember against NIU when the Huskies couldn't inbound the ball because Ward kept deflecting it back out of bounds. Eventually he deflected it to Talley for a steal. With his quickness and athleticism, he's a dangerous defender, as long as he's giving 100% all the time.

(10-23-2014 04:17 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 03:47 PM)emu steve Wrote:  

(10-23-2014 02:10 PM)EagleSam Wrote:  Bond has a chance to start? Wow. That would be quite a surprise if he beat out Talley, who many believe to be the leader and catalyst of this team. I'll just be happy if he can spell Talley so we don't run Mike's legs into the ground.

If both Bond and Alvano are ready to play from day one, I'm much more comfortable with our back court depth. Talley-Lee-Price-Bond-Alvano isn't a bad group of five. I had a hunch that either Okoloji or Nazione would be the other starting forward, but not sure which one. They add a bit more size and allow smaller defenders to have to deal with Ward. Okoloji has some solid D1 experience, so he may be the guy.

I don't want to post too much of the material here. An interested person can buy a downloadable PDF version for a tad over $15.

Interesting Nobles supposedly is a shooter and can play both F positions (EagleSam always says the two are kind of interchangeable anyway).

I assume that Okoloji will start at '4' and be more of a defensive player.

One FUNNY bit: Some website says Ward is a top (15???) defender. Murphy said that Ward needed to improve his defense.

I believe Murphy more then what I read of the "Internet".

In the zone, the 3 and 4 are basically one in the same, as well as in the completely basic motion offense that Murphy "runs". So Nobles is just a "forward", like Ward, Nazione, etc. If Nobles can shoot (a "stretch forward", we'll call it), then that would be quite a weapon and maybe he doesn't get redshirted. However, he needs to add some bulk, so it might be for the best to sit him a year.

As for Ward's defense, I remember Murph taking him out a few times for having Glenn Bryant syndrome, closing out on a shooter half-assed, and watching said shooter drive right around him. But when he was on, he was ON. I remember against NIU when the Huskies couldn't inbound the ball because Ward kept deflecting it back out of bounds. Eventually he deflected it to Talley for a steal. With his quickness and athleticism, he's a dangerous defender, as long as he's giving 100% all the time.

Yes, there was a comment by Murphy that players like Riley, Bryant, and Harrison had to cover for Ward's defensive lapses.

Huge Post, Steve. Thanks a lot!

When we were arguing over recruiting in the spring, many had the sense that Bond and Alvano were holding higher hopes than a mid major school. But got left behind and fortunately EMU had available slots (from not recruiting well in the fall). If this was true, than realistically speaking these are pretty much the type of recruits a mid major should be excited about.

Not surprised at all they both may be able to contribute right away- quite common for solid recruits. I would be very surprised if Bond could be competing as a starter. Talley is a solid pint guard all around, even better in transition as Sam pointed out earlier.

My big question still is how well have we replaced Bryant and Riley. These guys were monsters at what they did / when they did it. I wish Murphy was talking about Nazionne or Samuels instead.

Again huge post. Thanks

(10-23-2014 10:53 PM)rayEMU Wrote:  Huge Post, Steve. Thanks a lot!

When we were arguing over recruiting in the spring, many had the sense that Bond and Alvano were holding higher hopes than a mid major school. But got left behind and fortunately EMU had available slots (from not recruiting well in the fall). If this was true, than realistically speaking these are pretty much the type of recruits a mid major should be excited about.

Not surprised at all they both may be able to contribute right away- quite common for solid recruits. I would be very surprised if Bond could be competing as a starter. Talley is a solid pint guard all around, even better in transition as Sam pointed out earlier.

My big question still is how well have we replaced Bryant and Riley. These guys were monsters at what they did / when they did it. I wish Murphy was talking about Nazionne or Samuels instead.

Again huge post. Thanks

Ray, in the article, quite long, Murphy discussed each player. I'm not posting everything from that article. (The PDF is set up so it can't be copied, printed, etc. etc. - all I can do is read it).

Some of it has the details of a scouting report. Very candid assessment of the team and each player.

What I like about the article is that instead of reading some recruiting service or look at stats, the man speaks himself based on what he has actually seen on the practice court over the summer/early fall (as permitted by the NCAA rules on very early practices).

BTW, someone who attended a booster event (for lack of a better term) at the Convo (it was last week, I think Thursday) e-mailed me that he was surprised how thin the players are.

This is a long (that doesn't include Mike Talley. I've met Mike and long is not a term which comes to mind) team, but not a bulky team.

Long (and thin) are certainly terms I'd use to describe some of our newcomers like Bond, Nobles, Price, etc.