Big 30/ESPN owned league

Atlantic: UVA, Vtech, UNC, DUKE, NC state, Wake, Clem, Gtech, FSU, Miami

Central: Texas, Tex Tech, TCU, Baylor, OU, Ok state, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU

Coastal: BC, Uconn, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Cincy, Lville, ND, Gtown, St Johns

Convert the LHN into a conference network. Rule change so each division can have a basketball/other sport tourney with auto bid to ncaa tourney. For football another rule change with 4 pods of 7 and 2 game playoff of pod winners. ND will play 6 games against it pod with navy having a side deal to play 3.

Ew, Miami?

Pass.

(10-07-2014 03:31 AM)murrdcu Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 02:29 AM)jhawkmvp Wrote:  Most of these guys only get attention when they posit rumors about expansion. So far they have been very inaccurate in realignment. They seem to throw crap against the window to see what sticks mostly.

It is all over the place. One guy is saying independence for Texas, or maybe the SEC, or maybe ACC partial, and/or OU leaving without B12 expansion. Another is saying Texas (and probably others) to the B1G. One is just saying big news stay tuned OU/UT rift. Yet another UCF and Miami to the B12. The only agreement is two seem to be saying Texas and OU are at odds about the future direction of the B12 regarding expansion.

Let's hear what the Dude has to say tomorrow. It would be nice if MHver added some info too.

I am waiting for a post from Miko, but he must be working on a business deal in Tokyo... He gets all his sports inside stuff from the Emperor himself.

(10-07-2014 10:33 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Big 30/ESPN owned league

Atlantic: UVA, Vtech, UNC, DUKE, NC state, Wake, Clem, Gtech, FSU, Miami

Central: Texas, Tex Tech, TCU, Baylor, OU, Ok state, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU

Coastal: BC, Uconn, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Cincy, Lville, ND, Gtown, St Johns

Convert the LHN into a conference network. Rule change so each division can have a basketball/other sport tourney with auto bid to ncaa tourney. For football another rule change with 4 pods of 7 and 2 game playoff of pod winners. ND will play 6 games against it pod with navy having a side deal to play 3.

Put down the crack pipe and step away from the keyboard.

(10-07-2014 07:35 AM)Dr. Isaly von Yinzer Wrote:  I believe that the Dude, MHver3 and TuxedoYoda are all the same whack job. I believe some not created all three of those personnas to give his nonsense more credibility. He has been wrong at nearly every single turn. However, he continues to find an audience for his nonsense because people will believe what they want to believe.

MHver3 was on the Dude's radio show once. Probably the third best guest on the show behind Brett McMurphy and that B1G insider who talked about OU worrying about Texas' parachute clause as well as the prepping of lesser schools for way down the line (Buffalo)

(10-07-2014 10:18 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:28 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  You wont get any argument out of me that Dude hasn't known **** all along. At best he has been used as a misinformation agent. I actually think he knew stuff back when West Virginia was in the process of joining the Big 12. Their people at WVU, at that time, were free to be "agents" for the Big 12 with other entities without there being any blowback upon the Big 12 conference. I would assume that a whole lot of information flowed through WVU at that time.

The funny thing about it is he made the entire WVU athletic department look bad, because he made it seem as though the info was coming straight from Oliver Luck. At least initially. Making it seem as though no potentially confidential info could be trusted with the WVU officials. Even though he never represented them.

I do agree with you. Once he stopped getting good info, he got very defensive as it became obvious his info was horrible and contrived. People started calling him out at that point and that is when he started saying things he really shouldn't have about "The culture at WVU" and how it led to folks telling him things. That was a bad thing for him to do. Especially if folks were actually telling him things.

He would make a terrible journalist.

(10-07-2014 01:35 AM)ChrisLords Wrote:  Are they all the same guy?

Minnesota Dude

Transic_nyc ‏@Transic_nyc · 3h2 hours ago
@flugempire So you don't believe the rumors that the Big 12 is thinking about expanding?


Greg Flugaur
‏@flugempire @Transic_nyc
Oklahoma has evolved in becoming pro expansion or else.....Texas is the?
Watch for WVU DUDE statement on this tomorrow


Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
I dont believe in the Texas to B1G rumors. The escape parachute Texas built in the LHN contract with ESPN creates a pathway for UT to. ....


Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
....go in the Independence direction and stay INDY..... or float into INDY and progress toward ACC. LHN contract does have escape clause....


Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
..... For both ESPN & TEXAS. But it has to be mutual....and there is no scenario Texas gets out of LHN successfully and moves to Big Ten


Greg Flugaur @flugempire · 2h 2 hours ago
LHN is a nothing-burger vs SEC NETWORK. Patterson knows CONFERENCE NETWORKS hold a much greater value for branding/marketing/exposure



Greg Flugaur‏@flugempire
But I dont see an "out" for Texas in the LHN contract unless they move to INDEPENDENCE.... OU has become pro expansion or its time to move



The Dude

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 3h 3 hours ago
I have an expansion update coming tomorrow. Covers an upcoming battle of titans that will determine the fate of the Big 12.

Christopher Lambert @theDudeofWV · 3h 3 hours ago
@AgentDMiller It's more of a here's the current landscape.

Other WVU Dude

MHver3
‏@MHver3
I'm hearing lots of whispers that Texas and Fox might be planning a BIG mutiny. A very very lucrative mutiny.




Texas Guy


Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 29m 29 minutes ago
Part 3: Miami exploring a way to get out of ACC GOR.
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Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 29m 29 minutes ago
Part 2: Miami was told if they came to Big 12 with UCF, they would make a lot more $ and increase for B12 teams as well - all boats rise.
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Tuxedo Yoda @TuxedoYoda · 30m 30 minutes ago
Part 1: Huge scoop. Was told Miami regrets signing ACC GOR. Lack of $ really hurts their ability to eat Golden's contract & hire new staff.
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(10-07-2014 09:59 AM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:28 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:23 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Greg Flugaur is actually close to the truth but it is not as simple as he makes it out to be.

Yoda is as much of a crackpot as he always was. Big 12 expansion with Miami? That guy seriously just wants hits.

Even Dude knows that no one is gonna buy into any rumor of the Big 12 expanding.

Dude said we would be joining in full by 2017, watch the scheduling as proof. Well we just booked up 2017 with our last game... So the proof is we're staying indy.

You wont get any argument out of me that Dude hasn't known **** all along. At best he has been used as a misinformation agent. I actually think he knew stuff back when West Virginia was in the process of joining the Big 12. Their people at WVU, at that time, were free to be "agents" for the Big 12 with other entities without there being any blowback upon the Big 12 conference. I would assume that a whole lot of information flowed through WVU at that time.

The moment they officially joined the Big 12 though they could no fill that role and the info stopped. Dude came out and said that is when he made some Big Ten contacts. His stories were all over the place, jumping around from here to there and whatever. Those folks from the Big Ten, if they weren't figments of his imagination, were using and abusing him for their own purpose.

Notre Dame is absolutely staying Indy and if Texas moves, they will be adding to the strength of Notre Dame staying Indy. They are the plug in the dam.

I saw on post from the Ohio State insider nevadabuck on their premium site that corroborated that the Dude of WV was getting his info from the same place he was. Apparently the nevadabuck guy asked his source why he was also giving info to the Dude. So, I know the Dude has/had at least one real good source of information.

Just because one person is feeding a line of crap to more than one other person doesn't mean it is no longer a line of crap.

(10-07-2014 08:23 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Greg Flugaur is actually close to the truth but it is not as simple as he makes it out to be.

Yoda is as much of a crackpot as he always was. Big 12 expansion with Miami? That guy seriously just wants hits.

Even Dude knows that no one is gonna buy into any rumor of the Big 12 expanding.

Dude said we would be joining in full by 2017, watch the scheduling as proof. Well we just booked up 2017 with our last game... So the proof is we're staying indy.

Don't get cocky here ... goldendomer. You're singing a slightly different tune on a different board where you say you believe what an insider there is saying. A little consistency please from the 36-year-old ND fan that roams the interwebs in search of CR talk. :-) You know 2018 and beyond is still a possibility.

So, the current hoopla suggests that Miami and UCF might go to the Big XII??

Well, couldn't the ACC just counter-offer West Virginia and add South Florida? or maybe Houston?

Maybe I'm missing how the Big XII is in any position of power here...

(10-08-2014 12:41 PM)EvilVodka Wrote:  So, the current hoopla suggests that Miami and UCF might go to the Big XII??

Well, couldn't the ACC just counter-offer West Virginia and add South Florida? or maybe Houston?

Maybe I'm missing how the Big XII is in any position of power here...

I don't know if the b-12 has any leverage, however, texas+oklahoma>FSU+Miami. And I actually like FSU.

Miami I can't see having any interest in the B12 with all the traditional rivals it has in the ACC like BC and Syracuse.

The only schools out there that would prefer the B12 to the ACC are Colorado State and BYU because of geography. You could add Northern Illinois to that list near Iowa State but otherwise schools would prefer being associated with the East Coast markets of the ACC.

That is why I think the B12 would be smart to push back to 12 and lock Cincinnati up while they can before an opening is available the ACC. If the B12 and ACC lost a bunch of schools at one time, the ACC has existing numbers and geography in their favor to rebuild so schools like UC, UConn and UCF will be jumping to go into the ACC.

WVU joined the B12 only because they had to do so at the time. When the ACC had an opening they were already tied up with the B12. They could do the same thing to Cincinnati if they lock them up now.

Are they all the same guy? Tuxedo Dude M.H. Fluguar is the name.

(10-07-2014 07:18 PM)He1nousOne Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 10:18 AM)adcorbett Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:28 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  You wont get any argument out of me that Dude hasn't known **** all along. At best he has been used as a misinformation agent. I actually think he knew stuff back when West Virginia was in the process of joining the Big 12. Their people at WVU, at that time, were free to be "agents" for the Big 12 with other entities without there being any blowback upon the Big 12 conference. I would assume that a whole lot of information flowed through WVU at that time.

The funny thing about it is he made the entire WVU athletic department look bad, because he made it seem as though the info was coming straight from Oliver Luck. At least initially. Making it seem as though no potentially confidential info could be trusted with the WVU officials. Even though he never represented them.

I do agree with you. Once he stopped getting good info, he got very defensive as it became obvious his info was horrible and contrived. People started calling him out at that point and that is when he started saying things he really shouldn't have about "The culture at WVU" and how it led to folks telling him things. That was a bad thing for him to do. Especially if folks were actually telling him things.

He would make a terrible journalist.

The Dude was never dialed in. He was a good fortune teller for a short while and then simply lost his touch. His limitations are due to his mediocre imagination.

Those guys on twitter are parasites that make up garbage all of the time to feed their addiction for attention on twitter.

Miami is way too hot with baggage just like Texas is right now. They have been cheating for a long time, and still trying to cheat. This is one case I can see the NCAA need to give the death penalty to for the Miami Florida.

(10-07-2014 10:33 AM)bluesox Wrote:  Big 30/ESPN owned league

Atlantic: UVA, Vtech, UNC, DUKE, NC state, Wake, Clem, Gtech, FSU, Miami

Central: Texas, Tex Tech, TCU, Baylor, OU, Ok state, KU, KSU, ISU, BYU

Coastal: BC, Uconn, Cuse, Pitt, WVU, Cincy, Lville, ND, Gtown, St Johns

Convert the LHN into a conference network. Rule change so each division can have a basketball/other sport tourney with auto bid to ncaa tourney. For football another rule change with 4 pods of 7 and 2 game playoff of pod winners. ND will play 6 games against it pod with navy having a side deal to play 3.

I know it's all make believe but Why in the world would you ever put 2 basketball only schools in the Coastal ? that would totally imbalance the entire conference especially when if Your adding AAC schools with Big12 schools. Just add the 2 hottest AAC teams in Football, Houston and Memphis. Or UCF and USF , Temple. Not Georgetown and St. Johns. That makes Zero sense .

(10-08-2014 10:27 AM)ringmaster Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:23 AM)domer1978 Wrote:  

(10-07-2014 08:10 AM)He1nousOne Wrote:  Greg Flugaur is actually close to the truth but it is not as simple as he makes it out to be.

Yoda is as much of a crackpot as he always was. Big 12 expansion with Miami? That guy seriously just wants hits.

Even Dude knows that no one is gonna buy into any rumor of the Big 12 expanding.

Dude said we would be joining in full by 2017, watch the scheduling as proof. Well we just booked up 2017 with our last game... So the proof is we're staying indy.

Don't get cocky here ... goldendomer. You're singing a slightly different tune on a different board where you say you believe what an insider there is saying. A little consistency please from the 36-year-old ND fan that roams the interwebs in search of CR talk. :-) You know 2018 and beyond is still a possibility.

An Earth destroying asteroid is also possible in 2018 and beyond.

Ya'll didn't believe us Coogs when we told you, OU was backing us into the B12. Turned out to be true. This guy is maybe on to something and ain't talking about crack.

(10-08-2015 07:42 AM)BIgCatonProwl Wrote:  Ya'll didn't believe us Coogs when we told you, OU was backing us into the B12. Turned out to be true. This guy is maybe on to something and ain't talking about crack.

No....OU simply knows that by backing Houston, they cause an issue because they know some of the Texas schools don't want to bring up anymore Texas schools. They aren't backing you, they are creating chaos if they are acting as if they are backing you. Sorry.