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(09-29-2014 09:39 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 08:12 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 07:03 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Everyone knocks coaching but who saw the glitch in their kick coverage and decided on the on-side kick? Brilliant call and BRILLIANT execution. That was one for a training film. Remember Woodside is just getting his feet wet and starting to look pretty good. His ball fakes are easily the best since Bruce. And I LOVE to see us throw the ball (literally) north and south. We have some serious deep threats in Olack and Russell.

This team has should win the MAC. I haven't seen a B10 team with as much talent at Running Back as Toledo has. Hunt is an absolute stud, if he only can stay healthy, he will tear up the MAC. Our Offensive and Defensive Lines are very solid. We have excellent receivers and a Quarterback that has a very nice arm and moxy. He is only going to get better and better. We haven't had this good a QB since Bruce. And I think all three QB's on the roster may be better than any QB we have had in the last 10 years. We have ONE major weak link, and that is the secondary. We just do do not cover well. We give way to much fusion. We never disguise our coverages. Those two fade patterns in the end zone this past week were as easy a play to cover that you can have and the corner just didn't play the ball, twice. It wasn't like they were throwing to Calvin Johnson. The only player in the secondary that seems to break on the ball well is Whittaker. It has been for way too long that we have played poorly in the secondary. Ball skills need to be practiced every day and I just don't think it is being empathized enough. Who is our secondary coach? Whoever he is, he isn't getting the job done and it will cost us a MAC Championship again if it doesn't get fixed. I really don't think talent is the issue. I think coaching in the defensive secondary is just really sub par.

Amazing how much better the Secondary looks when the Rockets are able to pressure the QB. The front 7 need to do a better job of getting off their blocks quickly and making the plays. UT has to get to the QB when they send in a Blitz, a step late isn't going to cut it.

No question we need more pressure. Especially when our secondary is struggling. It is actually easier to cover when your team blitzes, because you know the ball is coming out quicker and the chance of a double move by the receiver is less likely. We give way too much cushion when we are blitzing in most cases. We need to start playing more aggressive on defense. Show a cover three shell and jump into cover two at the snap. That is how you cause turnovers and confuse the QB. We NEVER do this. We have an Offense that can score with anyone. Stop playing passive Defense.

let's see if we can play on the road
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(09-29-2014 09:39 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 08:12 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 07:03 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Everyone knocks coaching but who saw the glitch in their kick coverage and decided on the on-side kick? Brilliant call and BRILLIANT execution. That was one for a training film. Remember Woodside is just getting his feet wet and starting to look pretty good. His ball fakes are easily the best since Bruce. And I LOVE to see us throw the ball (literally) north and south. We have some serious deep threats in Olack and Russell.

This team has should win the MAC. I haven't seen a B10 team with as much talent at Running Back as Toledo has. Hunt is an absolute stud, if he only can stay healthy, he will tear up the MAC. Our Offensive and Defensive Lines are very solid. We have excellent receivers and a Quarterback that has a very nice arm and moxy. He is only going to get better and better. We haven't had this good a QB since Bruce. And I think all three QB's on the roster may be better than any QB we have had in the last 10 years. We have ONE major weak link, and that is the secondary. We just do do not cover well. We give way to much fusion. We never disguise our coverages. Those two fade patterns in the end zone this past week were as easy a play to cover that you can have and the corner just didn't play the ball, twice. It wasn't like they were throwing to Calvin Johnson. The only player in the secondary that seems to break on the ball well is Whittaker. It has been for way too long that we have played poorly in the secondary. Ball skills need to be practiced every day and I just don't think it is being empathized enough. Who is our secondary coach? Whoever he is, he isn't getting the job done and it will cost us a MAC Championship again if it doesn't get fixed. I really don't think talent is the issue. I think coaching in the defensive secondary is just really sub par.

Amazing how much better the Secondary looks when the Rockets are able to pressure the QB. The front 7 need to do a better job of getting off their blocks quickly and making the plays. UT has to get to the QB when they send in a Blitz, a step late isn't going to cut it.

No question we need more pressure. Especially when our secondary is struggling. It is actually easier to cover when your team blitzes, because you know the ball is coming out quicker and the chance of a double move by the receiver is less likely. We give way too much cushion when we are blitzing in most cases. We need to start playing more aggressive on defense. Show a cover three shell and jump into cover two at the snap. That is how you cause turnovers and confuse the QB. We NEVER do this. We have an Offense that can score with anyone. Stop playing passive Defense.

+1
Coming from someone who seems to know defense... Ex player maybe ???
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(09-29-2014 09:49 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:39 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 08:12 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 07:03 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Everyone knocks coaching but who saw the glitch in their kick coverage and decided on the on-side kick? Brilliant call and BRILLIANT execution. That was one for a training film. Remember Woodside is just getting his feet wet and starting to look pretty good. His ball fakes are easily the best since Bruce. And I LOVE to see us throw the ball (literally) north and south. We have some serious deep threats in Olack and Russell.

This team has should win the MAC. I haven't seen a B10 team with as much talent at Running Back as Toledo has. Hunt is an absolute stud, if he only can stay healthy, he will tear up the MAC. Our Offensive and Defensive Lines are very solid. We have excellent receivers and a Quarterback that has a very nice arm and moxy. He is only going to get better and better. We haven't had this good a QB since Bruce. And I think all three QB's on the roster may be better than any QB we have had in the last 10 years. We have ONE major weak link, and that is the secondary. We just do do not cover well. We give way to much fusion. We never disguise our coverages. Those two fade patterns in the end zone this past week were as easy a play to cover that you can have and the corner just didn't play the ball, twice. It wasn't like they were throwing to Calvin Johnson. The only player in the secondary that seems to break on the ball well is Whittaker. It has been for way too long that we have played poorly in the secondary. Ball skills need to be practiced every day and I just don't think it is being empathized enough. Who is our secondary coach? Whoever he is, he isn't getting the job done and it will cost us a MAC Championship again if it doesn't get fixed. I really don't think talent is the issue. I think coaching in the defensive secondary is just really sub par.

Amazing how much better the Secondary looks when the Rockets are able to pressure the QB. The front 7 need to do a better job of getting off their blocks quickly and making the plays. UT has to get to the QB when they send in a Blitz, a step late isn't going to cut it.

No question we need more pressure. Especially when our secondary is struggling. It is actually easier to cover when your team blitzes, because you know the ball is coming out quicker and the chance of a double move by the receiver is less likely. We give way too much cushion when we are blitzing in most cases. We need to start playing more aggressive on defense. Show a cover three shell and jump into cover two at the snap. That is how you cause turnovers and confuse the QB. We NEVER do this. We have an Offense that can score with anyone. Stop playing passive Defense.

+1
Coming from someone who seems to know defense... Ex player maybe ???

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(09-29-2014 09:39 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 08:12 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 07:03 AM)H2Oville Rocket Wrote:  Everyone knocks coaching but who saw the glitch in their kick coverage and decided on the on-side kick? Brilliant call and BRILLIANT execution. That was one for a training film. Remember Woodside is just getting his feet wet and starting to look pretty good. His ball fakes are easily the best since Bruce. And I LOVE to see us throw the ball (literally) north and south. We have some serious deep threats in Olack and Russell.

This team has should win the MAC. I haven't seen a B10 team with as much talent at Running Back as Toledo has. Hunt is an absolute stud, if he only can stay healthy, he will tear up the MAC. Our Offensive and Defensive Lines are very solid. We have excellent receivers and a Quarterback that has a very nice arm and moxy. He is only going to get better and better. We haven't had this good a QB since Bruce. And I think all three QB's on the roster may be better than any QB we have had in the last 10 years. We have ONE major weak link, and that is the secondary. We just do do not cover well. We give way to much fusion. We never disguise our coverages. Those two fade patterns in the end zone this past week were as easy a play to cover that you can have and the corner just didn't play the ball, twice. It wasn't like they were throwing to Calvin Johnson. The only player in the secondary that seems to break on the ball well is Whittaker. It has been for way too long that we have played poorly in the secondary. Ball skills need to be practiced every day and I just don't think it is being empathized enough. Who is our secondary coach? Whoever he is, he isn't getting the job done and it will cost us a MAC Championship again if it doesn't get fixed. I really don't think talent is the issue. I think coaching in the defensive secondary is just really sub par.

Amazing how much better the Secondary looks when the Rockets are able to pressure the QB. The front 7 need to do a better job of getting off their blocks quickly and making the plays. UT has to get to the QB when they send in a Blitz, a step late isn't going to cut it.

No question we need more pressure. Especially when our secondary is struggling. It is actually easier to cover when your team blitzes, because you know the ball is coming out quicker and the chance of a double move by the receiver is less likely. We give way too much cushion when we are blitzing in most cases. We need to start playing more aggressive on defense. Show a cover three shell and jump into cover two at the snap. That is how you cause turnovers and confuse the QB. We NEVER do this. We have an Offense that can score with anyone. Stop playing passive Defense.

I was just going to say that BDV. Uh, three shell with cover jump on two. Took the words right out of my mouth, yup. Great minds and all that.
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Their qb was sharp on those fades.. the tv bimbo doing the tacky sponsors promos wwas worse than the secondary
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(09-29-2014 10:09 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:49 AM)FMRocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:39 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 09:17 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 08:12 AM)BDV27 Wrote:  This team has should win the MAC. I haven't seen a B10 team with as much talent at Running Back as Toledo has. Hunt is an absolute stud, if he only can stay healthy, he will tear up the MAC. Our Offensive and Defensive Lines are very solid. We have excellent receivers and a Quarterback that has a very nice arm and moxy. He is only going to get better and better. We haven't had this good a QB since Bruce. And I think all three QB's on the roster may be better than any QB we have had in the last 10 years. We have ONE major weak link, and that is the secondary. We just do do not cover well. We give way to much fusion. We never disguise our coverages. Those two fade patterns in the end zone this past week were as easy a play to cover that you can have and the corner just didn't play the ball, twice. It wasn't like they were throwing to Calvin Johnson. The only player in the secondary that seems to break on the ball well is Whittaker. It has been for way too long that we have played poorly in the secondary. Ball skills need to be practiced every day and I just don't think it is being empathized enough. Who is our secondary coach? Whoever he is, he isn't getting the job done and it will cost us a MAC Championship again if it doesn't get fixed. I really don't think talent is the issue. I think coaching in the defensive secondary is just really sub par.

Amazing how much better the Secondary looks when the Rockets are able to pressure the QB. The front 7 need to do a better job of getting off their blocks quickly and making the plays. UT has to get to the QB when they send in a Blitz, a step late isn't going to cut it.

No question we need more pressure. Especially when our secondary is struggling. It is actually easier to cover when your team blitzes, because you know the ball is coming out quicker and the chance of a double move by the receiver is less likely. We give way too much cushion when we are blitzing in most cases. We need to start playing more aggressive on defense. Show a cover three shell and jump into cover two at the snap. That is how you cause turnovers and confuse the QB. We NEVER do this. We have an Offense that can score with anyone. Stop playing passive Defense.

+1
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(09-29-2014 01:28 PM)pono Wrote:  Their qb was sharp on those fades.. the tv bimbo doing the tacky sponsors promos wwas worse than the secondary

Can we recruit just one semi-speedy player to play corner for those obvious fade situations? Just one! Or a b-balll player from the stands. NO slight at all to Mathis but we have 6-1 and 6-2 cb's who are not going to get left in the dust in just 10 yds. The QB has to be MUCH better sending over that extra 6 to 8 inch reach (height and arm).
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I have no problem using up those timeouts like we did in the first half. All of the folks around me were hooing and hawing each time we took a timeout, but in the first half we dont need them for clock management, we need them to get the plays right. IMO, we should always go into the half with no timeouts remaining
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(09-29-2014 03:39 PM)eastisbest Wrote:  
(09-29-2014 01:28 PM)pono Wrote:  Their qb was sharp on those fades.. the tv bimbo doing the tacky sponsors promos wwas worse than the secondary

Can we recruit just one semi-speedy player to play corner for those obvious fade situations? Just one! Or a b-balll player from the stands. NO slight at all to Mathis but we have 6-1 and 6-2 cb's who are not going to get left in the dust in just 10 yds. The QB has to be MUCH better sending over that extra 6 to 8 inch reach (height and arm).

We have a guy on the sideline who could be covering those named Cheatham Norrils
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(09-29-2014 04:19 PM)T4C8 Wrote:  I have no problem using up those timeouts like we did in the first half. All of the folks around me were hooing and hawing each time we took a timeout, but in the first half we dont need them for clock management, we need them to get the plays right. IMO, we should always go into the half with no timeouts remaining


I agree. Its difficult to think things thru in 15 seconds or so on a play that is important. Need correct personnel and play to increase our chances.
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Had a great time in Toledo for the CMU game. Love your stadium, and our seats in Sect 26 were fine. Impressed with your O Line and your backup QB and RB. Got some free Brisket on the way in to our seats, and it was awesome. Good luck the rest of the season, and please put 60 points on WMU this weekend.

Thanks for the information you provided me on this site prior to coming to the game.

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Toledo can win the MAC, sure. But I think EXPECTATIONS should set them for #2 in the West, since they're @NIU -- and weren't terribly impressive OOC.

WMU is going to be a team to give you fits. A great test to see what the chances of winning @NIU are, and altogether whether you'll have 0,1, or 2 losses in the MAC. A good gauge.

WMU played VaTech pretty tough -- without it's star WR, saving him for Toledo. WMU should get better every week (barring any injuries). WMU is mistake-prone though, but so is Toledo -- but they may be shoring things up some.

WMU's D can stand up well. HOWEVER, their weakness is giving up 3rd downs all too easily. If WMU doesn't shore that problem up, Toledo will score well into the 40s before the final bell. However, Toledo's D will give up into the 30s to WMU -- that's my assessment.

Key to Toledo Win:
- Make those 3rd downs consistently; expose that WMU D flaw
- Run the ball consistently
- Be strong on D

If Toledo plays that out without being wonky/silly on special teams or turnovers, they'll win decently. What do I expect? Toledo to win by 7-17 (spread is 6). If Toledo executes well and WMU doesn't quite as much, Toledo will win this by 17. If Toledo doesn't execute the way Rocket fans were expecting, and WMU plays inspired ball? Toledo will eek this out by a TD. Personally, I would bet for Toledo on the spread if I were in Vegas.
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Western's D looks very good. Franklin looks like a good RB. Special teams is kind of a circus, although the punting team is good--as long as the snap does not go 10 feet in the air.
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(09-30-2014 07:51 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Special teams is kind of a circus, although the punting team is good--as long as the snap does not go 10 feet in the air.

lol seriously. If we have to punt out of our own endzone we might as well just give you the 2 points and the ball and save everyone some time.
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Looking at that crowd it had to be an intimidating environment to play in.
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(09-30-2014 07:51 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Western's D looks very good. Franklin looks like a good RB. Special teams is kind of a circus, although the punting team is good--as long as the snap does not go 10 feet in the air.

The man coverage is as good as I've seen in the MAC. Looks like they can
be run on. Rocket D needs to bring alot of heat on the QB.
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(10-01-2014 06:27 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-30-2014 07:51 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Western's D looks very good. Franklin looks like a good RB. Special teams is kind of a circus, although the punting team is good--as long as the snap does not go 10 feet in the air.

The man coverage is as good as I've seen in the MAC. Looks like they can
be run on. Rocket D needs to bring alot of heat on the QB.

Wow, a MAC team that plays man coverage, much less plays it well---imagine that!

I believed that CMU was a better team than Ball State and I believe that WMU is a better team than CMU this year, so the Rockets will have their work cut out for them.
I think that the Rockets will win on the road, particularly if Hunt is ready to play and is close to 100%; however, the margin for error will be thinner that is has been for the past two games, so they need to come out focused and stay focused.

If the Rockets want to maintain control over their own fate they are going to have to keep winning.
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(10-01-2014 01:12 PM)T-Town Wrote:  I think that the Rockets will win on the road, particularly if Hunt is ready to play and is close to 100%; however, the margin for error will be thinner that is has been for the past two games, so they need to come out focused and stay focused.

If the Rockets want to maintain control over their own fate they are going to have to keep winning.

Amen
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(10-01-2014 01:12 PM)T-Town Wrote:  
(10-01-2014 06:27 AM)Boca Rocket Wrote:  
(09-30-2014 07:51 AM)Toledo Football 1st Wrote:  Western's D looks very good. Franklin looks like a good RB. Special teams is kind of a circus, although the punting team is good--as long as the snap does not go 10 feet in the air.

The man coverage is as good as I've seen in the MAC. Looks like they can
be run on. Rocket D needs to bring alot of heat on the QB.

Wow, a MAC team that plays man coverage, much less plays it well---imagine that!

I believed that CMU was a better team than Ball State and I believe that WMU is a better team than CMU this year, so the Rockets will have their work cut out for them.
I think that the Rockets will win on the road, particularly if Hunt is ready to play and is close to 100%; however, the margin for error will be thinner that is has been for the past two games, so they need to come out focused and stay focused.

If the Rockets want to maintain control over their own fate they are going to have to keep winning.

WMU have 4 talented DB's. 2 were preseason 1rst team All-MAC. Zamort
was on the 3rd All-MAC Preseason game but is playing lights out.
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