What did AJ Harris do to not deserve a chance to show he was just as special as Garret Wolfe?

(09-08-2014 07:20 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  What did AJ Harris do to not deserve a chance to show he was just as special as Garret Wolfe?

Harris was ahead of Wolfe on the depth chart until he got hurt in I believe a game against Bowling Green. Then Wolfe gained like 200 yards in the second half that game and never relinquished the #1 spot. And Harris became Wally Pipp.

(09-08-2014 07:33 PM)Field Turf Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:20 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  What did AJ Harris do to not deserve a chance to show he was just as special as Garret Wolfe?

Harris was ahead of Wolfe on the depth chart until he got hurt in I believe a game against Bowling Green. Then Wolfe gained like 200 yards in the second half that game and never relinquished the #1 spot. And Harris became Wally Pipp.

Now we await another ridiculous post.

Like the one you just posted?

(09-08-2014 07:39 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Like the one you just posted?

Whoa!!! You sure got me.

If you didn't understand the analogy, my point is that like Wolfe won the job with his performance, I believe Hare won the job with his performance against NW. Sorry for being ridiculous.

From what I've seen, that one guy hasn't completely played himself into or out of the job falls more into the category of good problem so far.

Not a cringe inducer among them.

(09-08-2014 07:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  If you didn't understand the analogy, my point is that like Wolfe won the job with his performance, I believe Hare won the job with his performance against NW. Sorry for being ridiculous.

I understood it. It was just really bad.

Apology accepted.

(09-08-2014 07:44 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:39 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  Like the one you just posted?

Whoa!!! You sure got me.

If you don't have anything to contribute, shut up... Just saying.

(09-08-2014 07:49 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  If you didn't understand the analogy, my point is that like Wolfe won the job with his performance, I believe Hare won the job with his performance against NW. Sorry for being ridiculous.

I understood it. It was just really bad.

Apology accepted.

Could you explain to me why the analogy was bad? I'm a little slow as you can tell.

(09-08-2014 07:49 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  If you didn't understand the analogy, my point is that like Wolfe won the job with his performance, I believe Hare won the job with his performance against NW. Sorry for being ridiculous.

I understood it. It was just really bad.

Apology accepted.

Just because Harris was injured while Mac/Maddie aren't and Wolfe did way more than have a nice half like Hare.

So, besides not being applicable, what's wrong with the analogy?

FieldTurf answered that for me. PM me if you need me to explain any further. No need to clog up the board with a teaching lesson.

So if you aren't injured and just watching from the sidelines, you should be given equal opportunity to play and take time from a guy that proved himself? That makes sense.

Quote:A 12-1 NIU team would have a great shot at the Access Bowl! I don't care if they lose by 40 at Arkansas. They would have a great shot at the Access Bowl. There will only be 1 maybe 2 undefeated teams. NIU went to the Orange Bowl at 12-1. There also will be only a few 1-loss teams. Make no mistake about it the coaches and players have the Access Bowl as their goal!

True. However, you have the old Big East being in the Group of Five, and only the best will go.

Marshall has the best chance of going undefeated. They could very well lose a game of course -- which the team they lose to (@Akron or CUSAC) would need to be viably as good as @Arkansas. So I wouldn't say 40 pts losing to Arkansas. I would say close game + Arkansas holding their own admirably in the SEC with a good improvement from last year.

With that said though, ya got Cinci, UCF, BYU, and East Carolina to compete for, for a 1-loss year.

Marshall & NIU have the weakest schedules, so I would say for them, they would Really want to be undefeated, as a 1-loss tie to a 1-loss Big East/American Athletic team or BYU is not going to be enough for the Committee to select them.

The year NIU made it was because of the BCS score (which officially doesn't matter; it only influences Committee's analysis somewhat, I guess) -- NIU lost by 1 pt in the opener and won the rest of the way. That helped their score. And they got very lucky which you cannot Hope to re-produce with 1-loss under that system.

HERE, the luck is slightly better because a G5 *has* to go, but the old Big East is now part of the G5, so a tough SoS will be needed if there's no undefeated team.

Unless it's Marshall as the only 1-loss team, there's no way they'll select NIU with 1-loss if BYU, UCF, Cincinnati, or East Carolina has only 1 loss (see their schedules).

NIU needs to beat Arkansas -- otherwise, they need those teams to beat up on themselves!

Again I apologize for being ridiculous.

(09-08-2014 07:54 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:49 PM)PrideinthePack Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:45 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  If you didn't understand the analogy, my point is that like Wolfe won the job with his performance, I believe Hare won the job with his performance against NW. Sorry for being ridiculous.

I understood it. It was just really bad.

Apology accepted.

Just because Harris was injured while Mac/Maddie aren't and Wolfe did way more than have a nice half like Hare.

So, besides not being applicable, what's wrong with the analogy?

Exactly. You could also say ... What has Drew Hare done to be compared to Garrett Wolfe? One's a proven commodity and a Huskie legend. One has never even started a college game.

We can revisit this later and I'll call him right when he introduces Hare at his Huskie Hall of Fame induction. I hope he doesn't forget to mention the greatest throw he ever seen by a NIU QB. I suggest ending with that.

(09-08-2014 07:56 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  So if you aren't injured and just watching from the sidelines, you should be given equal opportunity to play and take time from a guy that proved himself? That makes sense.

So by that logic the last guy who does something good should always continue to play. That makes sense.

It's all small sample sizes with these three. Their bodies of work remain comparable. Hare earned a start and a little more rope than Mac had. That's it.

But hey, cool, you want to go ahead and make him starter for 3 years or whatever. Different strokes.

I think what Hare did, rallying his team from a halftime deficit, was pretty special. I think this win over NW was a more special win than the win Wolfe delivered for us. Thanks for respecting my ridiculous opinion and thanks for an amazing lesson. I'll never forget it.

(09-08-2014 07:56 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  So if you aren't injured and just watching from the sidelines, you should be given equal opportunity to play and take time from a guy that proved himself? That makes sense.

But Harris WAS injured that's why it's a ridiculous comparison.

Also... One half of football is hardly "proving yourself".

Using your logic, why did Hare get a chance after Maddie? Maddie did nothing to mess up. Since you love small sample sizes shouldn't you be going gaga over Maddie proving himself in his drive?

(09-08-2014 08:02 PM)DogTracks Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 07:56 PM)badmoonrising13 Wrote:  So if you aren't injured and just watching from the sidelines, you should be given equal opportunity to play and take time from a guy that proved himself? That makes sense.

So by that logic the last guy who does something good should always continue to play. That makes sense.

It's all small sample sizes with these three. Their bodies of work remain comparable. Hare earned a start and a little more rope than Mac had. That's it.

But hey, cool, you want to go ahead and make him starter for 3 years or whatever. Different strokes.

Yeah, in football the guy that plays really well gets to keep playing until he shows he can't play well. Just like Wolfe. That's why AJ sat the bench for two years! I think he GOT it!!!!!!