(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

He'll get the first shot so it is his job to lose, but no matter how much you keep saying he sparated himself that's still not going to make it true.

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

I'd say Hare has the earned the right to be the first guy to break the huddle, even if they still want to use 3 QBs.

Even if Hare hasn't completely won the job, I think he's earned the right to see if he can take it this week for good.

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

What game did you watch? Maddie played just as well, if not better in his first drive than Hare did in his. Maddie drove the team down for a score pretty easily.

(09-08-2014 11:57 AM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

He'll get the first shot so it is his job to lose, but no matter how much you keep saying he sparated himself that's still not going to make it true.

If you go away from Hare at this point, then its ridiculous to call it even a competition, just say there are no losers and everyone gets to play. I just hate the idea that performance doesn't matter. It seems like at this level, performance should matter.

(09-08-2014 12:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:57 AM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

He'll get the first shot so it is his job to lose, but no matter how much you keep saying he sparated himself that's still not going to make it true.

If you go away from Hare at this point, then its ridiculous to call it even a competition, just say there are no losers and everyone gets to play. I just hate the idea that performance doesn't matter. It seems like at this level, performance should matter.

Why are you completely ignoring the fact that Maddie led the team on a 14 play, 74 yard drive in his only series? Ran it well, threw it well. He came in completely cold for an offense that had done nothing all game and sparked it. If Ducee doesn't drop a ball on 2nd down, that drive probably ends up in the endzone.

Again, Hare is and should get the first shot at it. If he plays well he should keep playing, but stop acting like Hare was just far and away above Maddie because that's not true.

(09-08-2014 12:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:57 AM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:54 AM)klake87 Wrote:  All I am saying is you can make the case for any of the three, each had their moments. I was hoping that one of the three would stand out but that has not happened. It will be interesting to see who Carey names as starter. I bet he stays with his rotation of McIntosh first then either Maddie or Hare.

Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

He'll get the first shot so it is his job to lose, but no matter how much you keep saying he sparated himself that's still not going to make it true.

If you go away from Hare at this point, then its ridiculous to call it even a competition, just say there are no losers and everyone gets to play. I just hate the idea that performance doesn't matter. It seems like at this level, performance should matter.

Why are you completely ignoring the fact that Maddie led the team on a 14 play, 74 yard drive in his only series? Ran it well, threw it well. He came in completely cold for an offense that had done nothing all game and sparked it. If Ducee doesn't drop a ball on 2nd down, that drive probably ends up in the endzone.

Again, Hare is and should get the first shot at it. If he plays well he should keep playing, but stop acting like Hare was just far and away above Maddie because that's not true.

I thought you said the Maddie ship had sailed. He cant make the deep throw, that's critical with this offense this year. With Maddie you are basically making Brown a non-factor, NIU cannot afford that can they?

(09-08-2014 12:08 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:03 PM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:01 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:57 AM)7 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 11:55 AM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  Hare certainly separated himself this week, and if performance means anything, its his job to lose.

He'll get the first shot so it is his job to lose, but no matter how much you keep saying he sparated himself that's still not going to make it true.

If you go away from Hare at this point, then its ridiculous to call it even a competition, just say there are no losers and everyone gets to play. I just hate the idea that performance doesn't matter. It seems like at this level, performance should matter.

Why are you completely ignoring the fact that Maddie led the team on a 14 play, 74 yard drive in his only series? Ran it well, threw it well. He came in completely cold for an offense that had done nothing all game and sparked it. If Ducee doesn't drop a ball on 2nd down, that drive probably ends up in the endzone.

Again, Hare is and should get the first shot at it. If he plays well he should keep playing, but stop acting like Hare was just far and away above Maddie because that's not true.

I thought you said the Maddie ship had sailed. He cant make the deep throw, that's critical with this offense this year. With Maddie you are basically making Brown a non-factor, NIU cannot afford that can they?

And exactly how many deep balls have you seen Anthony Maddie throw in games, MD? Unless we're watching different games, he hasn't thrown one. There was a quote in HuskieWire in fall camp saying the deep ball was his strength.

And if you want to go just based off deep balls, I still think McIntosh throws a better deep ball than Hare or Maddie. He struggles with accuracy on short stuff, though.

Well if the last two game were any indication, I would not want to start. The third guy got the most playing time. Starter, set up guy and closer.

The key with Hare and Maddie is they are both Sophomores, that isn't an excuse, but there is still plenty of time to develop. I remember cringing the first couple of times Harnish or Lynch took the field because of the excessive running and lack of targeted throws. It will all be on the QB coordinator to get them to that point.

I think the next two years are going to be fantastic for these two. I look forwarding to coming back to this thread at the start of their senior seasons.

Only a blind man would argue against Hare at this point. The field becomes BIGGER with him in the lineup.He is NOT without his shortcomings (stares down receivers) ...but DAMN he can fire it. The other 2 can not throw like him.In a million years Maddei could not of hit Brown on that slant. Hàre is the guy the rest of the year barring injury.

(09-08-2014 12:24 PM)NIU05 Wrote:  Only a blind man would argue against Hare at this point. The field becomes BIGGER with him in the lineup.He is NOT without his shortcomings (stares down receivers) ...but DAMN he can fire it. The other 2 can not throw like him.In a million years Maddei could not of hit Brown on that slant. Hàre is the guy the rest of the year barring injury.

You've seen Maddie throw 8 passes in his career. 8! Stop acting like you know the answers when the coaches who have been watching these kids for 2 years now don't.

I know the coaches know better than me, but isn't this why they are paid large sums of money, to make decisions like this. I think we all can agree by playing musical chairs at QB you will never maximize the offensive output. That might be fine vs a Northwestern team, but what about when you play good teams like Ball State, Toledo, and Arkansas. Honestly NIU should have put up 40 vs Northwestern. In an offense which does feature quick hitting passes so much and where timing is crucial, it just is hard to not think NIU's offense is being hurt by rotating QBs in and out. If Hare had no mobility at all, I could see the dilemma.

Why is everyone arguing about this? After the last 2 games and the QB rotation, I think it's safe to say that nobody but RC himself knows what the hell the plan is going to be. I'm just waiting for Maddie to be the man next week. Then what?!

In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

(09-08-2014 12:59 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

While it would be awesome for NIU to take down UNLV and Arkansas, what really matters most is a MAC Championship.

(09-08-2014 01:01 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:59 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

While it would be awesome for NIU to take down UNLV and Arkansas, what really matters most is a MAC Championship.

I know its pointless to keep arguing about the QB rotation because what we say doesn't matter a bit, but another reason I think you have to go with the QB that gives you the best chance to win is because I think the year's goals might have to be recalibrated. There could be attainable goals outside of the MAC this year if the defense can play well. Things appear to be setting up favorably in the G5 landscape also. Not to look past UNLV, and I know its highly likely NIU gets massacred at Arkansas, but that Arkansas game is looking like more could be on the line than originally thought. Again, I don't think NIU has much of a chance at all to be competitive in that game, but a miracle win @ Arkansas would flip this season on its head.

(09-08-2014 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 01:01 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:59 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

While it would be awesome for NIU to take down UNLV and Arkansas, what really matters most is a MAC Championship.

I know its pointless to keep arguing about the QB rotation because what we say doesn't matter a bit, but another reason I think you have to go with the QB that gives you the best chance to win is because I think the year's goals might have to be recalibrated. There could be attainable goals outside of the MAC this year if the defense can play well. Things appear to be setting up favorably in the G5 landscape also. Not to look past UNLV, and I know its highly likely NIU gets massacred at Arkansas, but that Arkansas game is looking like more could be on the line than originally thought. Again, I don't think NIU has much of a chance at all to be competitive in that game, but a miracle win @ Arkansas would flip this season on its head.

Whoa....pump the brakes, son...

(09-08-2014 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 01:01 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:59 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

While it would be awesome for NIU to take down UNLV and Arkansas, what really matters most is a MAC Championship.

I know its pointless to keep arguing about the QB rotation because what we say doesn't matter a bit, but another reason I think you have to go with the QB that gives you the best chance to win is because I think the year's goals might have to be recalibrated. There could be attainable goals outside of the MAC this year if the defense can play well. Things appear to be setting up favorably in the G5 landscape also. Not to look past UNLV, and I know its highly likely NIU gets massacred at Arkansas, but that Arkansas game is looking like more could be on the line than originally thought. Again, I don't think NIU has much of a chance at all to be competitive in that game, but a miracle win @ Arkansas would flip this season on its head.

Man, according to you, we've gone from conceding the NU game to now G5 champs, yet we're about to get destroyed in Fayetteville.

Someone once suggested to me that you tend to overreact to external stimuli. Don't worry Maddawg, I told 'em they were full of crap, no question about it.

(09-08-2014 01:07 PM)MaddDawgz02 Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 01:01 PM)HuskieFanatic Wrote:  

(09-08-2014 12:59 PM)huskie1stdown Wrote:  In 2 games I believe it is Hare, Mac then Maddie in that order based on time of possession.
I still think he rotates QB's until Conference starts.

While it would be awesome for NIU to take down UNLV and Arkansas, what really matters most is a MAC Championship.

I know its pointless to keep arguing about the QB rotation because what we say doesn't matter a bit, but another reason I think you have to go with the QB that gives you the best chance to win is because I think the year's goals might have to be recalibrated. There could be attainable goals outside of the MAC this year if the defense can play well. Things appear to be setting up favorably in the G5 landscape also. Not to look past UNLV, and I know its highly likely NIU gets massacred at Arkansas, but that Arkansas game is looking like more could be on the line than originally thought. Again, I don't think NIU has much of a chance at all to be competitive in that game, but a miracle win @ Arkansas would flip this season on its head.

the days of niu being competitive is pretty much over. We will play hard and see what happens, easy task, no. But i can assure you our guys are not going down there to keep the score down.