(08-25-2014 09:44 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:26 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Gracious to the fans that flipped us the middle finger as we left? K.

You mean like comments by college presidents of SMU/Tulsa/Tulane about how the "academic schools" need to stick together while leaving Rice behind? Talk about giving someone the middle finger.

I'm sure Rice would be the next add.

Beyond that, I can't imagine that SMU/Tulsa/Tulane had the pull to seriously condition their bids to the AAC on taking Rice as well.

Same could be said of any of the other teams that left--they didn't get to pick who else got a bid.

Not to say that once a member, nothing at all prohibits a school for lobbying for another school, but in Rice's case I suspect it would come down to UH objections. Were it not for UH, I think Rice would've been in another conference awhile ago.

UH lobbied for Rice to be in CUSA. I always thought the 4 leftover SWC teams blew it by not sticking together and rebuilding the SWC with the best teams available teams in that region at the time. Could have expanded the footprint a bit and taken Louisville and Cinci. Memphis, Tulsa, S Miss and Tulane were all available---thats 10. Could have gone west a bit for New Mexico and BYU. That would have been a nice conference--and the SWC name would have given the conference a level of familiarity and branding that would have been better than starting from scratch with the general public.

That said, the late decision by Rice not to renew the series with UH in 2014 (that nearly caused us to have 2 FCS games this year) and the way they tried to work us over on using their stadium last year for one game (we ended up moving it from Rice to BBVA Compass when Rice wanted our players to dress in tents rather than use the locker rooms) might have made the likelihood that Houston would support Rice for AAC membership a little more questionable. I still think Houston would probably still support Rice in the AAC. Rice is fine institution with a good reputation and a wonderful history--not to mention an easy travel partner.

(08-25-2014 09:44 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:26 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Gracious to the fans that flipped us the middle finger as we left? K.

You mean like comments by college presidents of SMU/Tulsa/Tulane about how the "academic schools" need to stick together while leaving Rice behind? Talk about giving someone the middle finger.

I'm sure Rice would be the next add.

Beyond that, I can't imagine that SMU/Tulsa/Tulane had the pull to seriously condition their bids to the AAC on taking Rice as well.

Same could be said of any of the other teams that left--they didn't get to pick who else got a bid.

Not to say that once a member, nothing at all prohibits a school for lobbying for another school, but in Rice's case I suspect it would come down to UH objections. Were it not for UH, I think Rice would've been in another conference awhile ago.

Yep, I don't think Rice will be added to the AAC under any circumstances so long as Houston is in it, barring a drastic reshuffling.

My comment was more about the unnecessary (and frankly inexplicable) public comment. I wonder how it's affected relations between the (Rice Pres) Leebron and the other presidents.

Having said that, if Tulane thinks they are academically more similar to SMU and Tulsa than Rice, that's their business.

(08-23-2014 11:11 AM)ECU-DMB Fanatic Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 10:15 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:12 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Considering the previous conference home for most of those programs, you'd think some of their fans would be a little more gracious about their place in the college football landscape.

Says the ODU fan...

Says the ODU fan who was thankful that the CAA gave the football program of my alma mater the chance to hit the ground running and quickly develop into a strong performer on and off the field. I'm glad to be in CUSA, but I'm also not going around saying "at least I'm not in that overturned port-o-potty CAA anymore" I hope they do well going forward even with both my schools gone. I do wonder about their expansion plan and exactly what they're trying to be (north-centric? south-centric? FCS football-centric? basketball-centric?), but a pox on me if I badmouth them just because my school(s) aren't involved any longer, or go around saying "at least we don't have to play TU, UD, HU, DU, UNCW, etc..." Oh noes, acronym schools! How utterly lowly! Also a common refrain from some of the new AAC schools' fans.

Honestly, IMHO, this is not an "apples to apples" comparison of the situations.

Also people tend to forget how much of a two way street the negative discourse was on this board from the ones staying and the ones leaving. There is plenty of blame to go around on both sides.

Put it anyway you want to see. CUSA hasn't stopped ECU from wining the title and BB didn't act like dbag when you guys decided to leave instead he wished you best and now try to see it from ODU perspective CAA decided to screw us and didn't allow to win the conference and didn't even care about us when we decided to leave. Yeager became one mean f'ing sob to ODU. Like you said its not apples to apples but CUSA is and was nice to ECU.

(08-25-2014 10:41 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:44 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:26 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:37 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  Gracious to the fans that flipped us the middle finger as we left? K.

You mean like comments by college presidents of SMU/Tulsa/Tulane about how the "academic schools" need to stick together while leaving Rice behind? Talk about giving someone the middle finger.

I'm sure Rice would be the next add.

Beyond that, I can't imagine that SMU/Tulsa/Tulane had the pull to seriously condition their bids to the AAC on taking Rice as well.

Same could be said of any of the other teams that left--they didn't get to pick who else got a bid.

Not to say that once a member, nothing at all prohibits a school for lobbying for another school, but in Rice's case I suspect it would come down to UH objections. Were it not for UH, I think Rice would've been in another conference awhile ago.

Yep, I don't think Rice will be added to the AAC under any circumstances so long as Houston is in it, barring a drastic reshuffling.

My comment was more about the unnecessary (and frankly inexplicable) public comment. I wonder how it's affected relations between the (Rice Pres) Leebron and the other presidents.

Having said that, if Tulane thinks they are academically more similar to SMU and Tulsa than Rice, that's their business.

We hold ourselves as the Harvard of the South remember?

(08-25-2014 11:39 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 10:41 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:44 AM)cotton1991 Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:34 AM)JDTulane Wrote:  

(08-25-2014 09:26 AM)JustAnotherAustinOwl Wrote:  You mean like comments by college presidents of SMU/Tulsa/Tulane about how the "academic schools" need to stick together while leaving Rice behind? Talk about giving someone the middle finger.

I'm sure Rice would be the next add.

Beyond that, I can't imagine that SMU/Tulsa/Tulane had the pull to seriously condition their bids to the AAC on taking Rice as well.

Same could be said of any of the other teams that left--they didn't get to pick who else got a bid.

Not to say that once a member, nothing at all prohibits a school for lobbying for another school, but in Rice's case I suspect it would come down to UH objections. Were it not for UH, I think Rice would've been in another conference awhile ago.

Yep, I don't think Rice will be added to the AAC under any circumstances so long as Houston is in it, barring a drastic reshuffling.

My comment was more about the unnecessary (and frankly inexplicable) public comment. I wonder how it's affected relations between the (Rice Pres) Leebron and the other presidents.

Having said that, if Tulane thinks they are academically more similar to SMU and Tulsa than Rice, that's their business.

We hold ourselves as the Harvard of the South remember?

We prefer to think of Harvard as the Rice of the northeast.

Yah in the mid 20th century Harvard was the Tulane of the North :( those days are gone

(08-23-2014 09:46 AM)DowdyPirate Wrote:  

(08-23-2014 09:12 AM)Cyniclone Wrote:  Considering the previous conference home for most of those programs, you'd think some of their fans would be a little more gracious about their place in the college football landscape.

Says the ODU fan...

When ODU left the CAA, the middle finger was towards us, not from us.