(08-19-2014 08:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is speculation on both sides. Some people are even saying Brown rushed the cop as if they saw it happen with their own eyes even thought there isn't a single named person who has said that.

The cell phone video that was taken at the scene with an eye witness discussing what happened. It was also shown last night on Hannity, but not the entire conversation. The person made a comment that he saw the boy run towards the cop. Another person asks, "why would he do that, I'd run the other way".

(08-19-2014 08:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is speculation on both sides. Some people are even saying Brown rushed the cop as if they saw it happen with their own eyes even thought there isn't a single named person who has said that.

I enjoy reading brilliant right-wing analysis around here like the moron claiming the impact of the previous bullets would have knocked Brown back, so the fact he was shot in the top of the head means he must have been running forward. Not only are these idiots exposing their racism by twisting every way they can to blame the black victim, but they're also exposing their ignorance of simple physics. I think they've been watching too much TV where getting shot propels you backwards.

I also enjoy reading how four eyewitnesses with consistent stories aren't credible according to the righties around here. Why are they not credible? Because they're black. Of course race has nothing to do with it according to the racists.

(08-19-2014 08:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:51 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:46 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  VA, now you see why UM is one of those few on my ignore list. The moment he accused 3/4's of this forum of being racist, and all but said "it's all the white man's fault for everything!' there was no reason to even debate with him.

I don't think I have anyone on ignore, but that's just me. Kind of useless since everything gets quoted anyway so it's still viewable. I don't mind alternative arguements, but folks, including myself, should expect to get called out on it from time to time.

He's one of the few.. I got sick of seeing him spit vitriol and accusing me (by virtue of attacking my beliefs) of being racial in nature.

If someone starts hurling insults it means they have lost the debate. Take your victory and move on.

The truth is often insulting to you right-wingers.

(08-18-2014 03:10 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yeah because everyone runs toward people who are shooting at you.

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He was shot after the started running forward you imbecile.

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(08-19-2014 08:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:41 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-18-2014 04:54 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Fit has already decided what happened. Racist white cop murdered innocent black kid. Now he's just rearranging the facts to suit that narrative.

What's interesting is that you could have filled in any number of right-wingers in place of Fit, changed the scenario around, and it would have fit just perfectly; but you didn't do that. It's because, like I've said for years, you like running with the racists. Never once have I seen you reject the heavy bigotry and racism on this board. I think we all know why that is.

...and the card has been played.

^^^ The first line of racism's defense ^^^

Negative, you didn't address the issue, created another hypothetical issue, and ended with the race card.

Thanks for letting everyone know that you don't have the ability to understand the issue being raised.

UM2001grad,

Did Brown rob the store? Yes or No? Just curious of your take on the thread title.

(08-19-2014 09:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  UM2001grad,

Did Brown rob the store? Yes or No? Just curious of your take on the thread title.

It is unclear and irrelevant. The racist right-wing just wants to grab onto that incident as justification for the shooting. It's so interesting to watch all you right-wingers moan and groan about tyranny and jack-booted thugs, and then watch you defend those very things when they're turned on black people. It's a good lesson for all sensible Americans - racists love their tyrannical police state when it's directed at brown-skinned people.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/volok...nal-trial/

Found this interesting.

(08-19-2014 09:00 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:43 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:41 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:40 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 07:39 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  What's interesting is that you could have filled in any number of right-wingers in place of Fit, changed the scenario around, and it would have fit just perfectly; but you didn't do that. It's because, like I've said for years, you like running with the racists. Never once have I seen you reject the heavy bigotry and racism on this board. I think we all know why that is.

...and the card has been played.

^^^ The first line of racism's defense ^^^

Negative, you didn't address the issue, created another hypothetical issue, and ended with the race card.

Thanks for letting everyone know that you don't have the ability to understand the issue being raised.

lol, that's rich.

(08-19-2014 08:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is speculation on both sides. Some people are even saying Brown rushed the cop as if they saw it happen with their own eyes even thought there isn't a single named person who has said that.

I enjoy reading brilliant right-wing analysis around here like the moron claiming the impact of the previous bullets would have knocked Brown back, so the fact he was shot in the top of the head means he must have been running forward. Not only are these idiots exposing their racism by twisting every way they can to blame the black victim, but they're also exposing their ignorance of simple physics. I think they've been watching too much TV where getting shot propels you backwards.

I also enjoy reading how four eyewitnesses with consistent stories aren't credible according to the righties around here. Why are they not credible? Because they're black. Of course race has nothing to do with it according to the racists.

Big words from a small mind.

BTW.. The bullets propelling someone backwards came from one of the eyewitnesses that saw him shot in the back numerous times.. You know the ones that came forward days after Dorian Johnson's testimony hit the airwaves and their stories were identical.

(08-19-2014 08:59 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:51 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:46 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  VA, now you see why UM is one of those few on my ignore list. The moment he accused 3/4's of this forum of being racist, and all but said "it's all the white man's fault for everything!' there was no reason to even debate with him.

I don't think I have anyone on ignore, but that's just me. Kind of useless since everything gets quoted anyway so it's still viewable. I don't mind alternative arguements, but folks, including myself, should expect to get called out on it from time to time.

He's one of the few.. I got sick of seeing him spit vitriol and accusing me (by virtue of attacking my beliefs) of being racial in nature.

If someone starts hurling insults it means they have lost the debate. Take your victory and move on.

The truth is often insulting to you right-wingers.

Kind of like folks overreacting to this shooting prematurely?

(08-19-2014 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:59 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:51 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:48 AM)VA49er Wrote:  I don't think I have anyone on ignore, but that's just me. Kind of useless since everything gets quoted anyway so it's still viewable. I don't mind alternative arguements, but folks, including myself, should expect to get called out on it from time to time.

He's one of the few.. I got sick of seeing him spit vitriol and accusing me (by virtue of attacking my beliefs) of being racial in nature.

If someone starts hurling insults it means they have lost the debate. Take your victory and move on.

The truth is often insulting to you right-wingers.

Kind of like folks overreacting to this shooting prematurely?

How interesting to see you telling the people of Ferguson that they are prematurely overreacting. So you must have a better grasp on the police/community relationship in Ferguson than the citizens there do. And you must have a better understanding of what happened to Michael Brown and what it means for their community. How patronizingly patriarchal of you.

(08-19-2014 09:09 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  UM2001grad,

Did Brown rob the store? Yes or No? Just curious of your take on the thread title.

It is clear and irrelevant. The racist right-wing just wants to grab onto that incident as justification for the shooting. It's so interesting to watch all you right-wingers moan and groan about tyranny and jack-booted thugs, and then watch you defend those very things when they're turned on black people. It's a good lesson for all sensible Americans - racists love their tyrannical police state when it's directed at brown-skinned people.

Its clear and you know it. You seem to be making excuses for a black man and his actions.

Now I can see how the two incidents are some what related and unrelated. The robbery did not lead to the shooting per Officer Wilson view point. However, it did influence Brown's reaction to the officer.

Lastly, the video of the store robbery speaks to the point that, yes Brown was not the gentle giant that the propaganda suggested. More importantly, it is the same consistent behavior of going towards a person or persons of authority in an aggressive manner, (the store clerk and the officer).

(08-19-2014 09:30 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:22 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:59 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:54 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:51 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  He's one of the few.. I got sick of seeing him spit vitriol and accusing me (by virtue of attacking my beliefs) of being racial in nature.

If someone starts hurling insults it means they have lost the debate. Take your victory and move on.

The truth is often insulting to you right-wingers.

Kind of like folks overreacting to this shooting prematurely?

How interesting to see you telling the people of Ferguson that they are prematurely overreacting. So you must have a better grasp on the police/community relationship in Ferguson than the citizens there do. And you must have a better understanding of what happened to Michael Brown and what it means for their community. How patronizingly patriarchal of you.

Police/community relations?!? There has never been a police shooting in the history of Ferguson. Unless you show me facts and cases were there has been police brutality in Ferguson, then you also don't know. These people are overreacting.

(08-19-2014 08:03 AM)fsquid Wrote:  No clue how credible this is, but this is circulating this morning.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2014/08/18/...pd-busted/

Taking it straight to the right wing lol... This website can't be credible with what they're saying, it's absolutely laughable. The store owner just wanted to talk to Brown, but Brown pushed him into the candy rack, yeah, sure...

(08-19-2014 09:31 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:09 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  UM2001grad,

Did Brown rob the store? Yes or No? Just curious of your take on the thread title.

It is clear and irrelevant. The racist right-wing just wants to grab onto that incident as justification for the shooting. It's so interesting to watch all you right-wingers moan and groan about tyranny and jack-booted thugs, and then watch you defend those very things when they're turned on black people. It's a good lesson for all sensible Americans - racists love their tyrannical police state when it's directed at brown-skinned people.

Its clear and you know it. You seem to be making excuses for a black man and his actions.

Now I can see how the two incidents are some what related and unrelated. The robbery did not lead to the shooting per Officer Wilson view point. However, it did influence Brown's reaction to the officer.

Lastly, the video of the store robbery speaks to the point that, yes Brown was not the gentle giant that the propaganda suggested. More importantly, it is the same consistent behavior of going towards a person or persons of authority in an aggressive manner, (the store clerk and the officer).

So you understand the officer's point-of-view and Brown's point-of-view at the time of the shooting? Hell, somebody get the FBI on the phone because we've got a psychic expert who can explain the whole thing!

Actually, what we've got is your average right-winger making up bullsh*t scenarios to justify the shooting of black man. Nothing new there.

(08-19-2014 08:58 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 08:50 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  There is speculation on both sides. Some people are even saying Brown rushed the cop as if they saw it happen with their own eyes even thought there isn't a single named person who has said that.

I enjoy reading brilliant right-wing analysis around here like the moron claiming the impact of the previous bullets would have knocked Brown back, so the fact he was shot in the top of the head means he must have been running forward. Not only are these idiots exposing their racism by twisting every way they can to blame the black victim, but they're also exposing their ignorance of simple physics. I think they've been watching too much TV where getting shot propels you backwards.

I also enjoy reading how four eyewitnesses with consistent stories aren't credible according to the righties around here. Why are they not credible? Because they're black. Of course race has nothing to do with it according to the racists.

Kissing ass to try to prove you're not a racist isn't impressive. You should stick to blindly blaming the righties and whities. It's all you're good at, and you're not even that good at it. You're too predictable, but it's kinda fun to watch you keep oppressing your own image all by yourself.

I never said that justified anything. Race baiting again since you cannot defend your point.

The facts state that MB was aggressive and physically threatened both the store clerk and the officer.

Listen to the clown accuse people of condescension.

I wonder if he's familiar with the term "projection".

(08-19-2014 09:41 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:31 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:09 AM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  

(08-19-2014 09:03 AM)South Carolina Duke Wrote:  UM2001grad,

Did Brown rob the store? Yes or No? Just curious of your take on the thread title.

It is clear and irrelevant. The racist right-wing just wants to grab onto that incident as justification for the shooting. It's so interesting to watch all you right-wingers moan and groan about tyranny and jack-booted thugs, and then watch you defend those very things when they're turned on black people. It's a good lesson for all sensible Americans - racists love their tyrannical police state when it's directed at brown-skinned people.

Its clear and you know it. You seem to be making excuses for a black man and his actions.

Now I can see how the two incidents are some what related and unrelated. The robbery did not lead to the shooting per Officer Wilson view point. However, it did influence Brown's reaction to the officer.

Lastly, the video of the store robbery speaks to the point that, yes Brown was not the gentle giant that the propaganda suggested. More importantly, it is the same consistent behavior of going towards a person or persons of authority in an aggressive manner, (the store clerk and the officer).

So you understand the officer's point-of-view and Brown's point-of-view at the time of the shooting? Hell, somebody get the FBI on the phone because we've got a psychic expert who can explain the whole thing!

Actually, what we've got is your average right-winger making up bullsh*t scenarios to justify the shooting of black man. Nothing new there.

Why the butt-hurt? The autopsy report matches the eyewitness who was recorded, which matches the police statement.

Just another case of a story getting blown up about how a white guy shot a "good black kid", only for the real truth to come out.