So Minnesota raised the Minimum Wage by 75 cents and *gasp* some businesses have to offset the cost.

Quote:Beemer says it's only his servers who make minimum wage, adding that, with tips, they regularly take home between $20 and $35 an hour. Dishwashers and cooks start at $10 an hour and $12 an hour, respectively.

"We've always taken great pride in attracting good people and paying them well," Beemer said. "I truly care about these people."

But raising his servers' pay to the new $8-an-hour minimum -- a 75-cent increase -- will cost him about $10,000 a year, he said. The restaurant, which operated at a loss last year, couldn't afford that.

Beemer calculated that adding a 35-cent charge to each bill, no matter how large the party or order, would offset the higher wages for his servers and the corresponding increases in payroll taxes and unemployment insurance. But it was spelling this out for his customers on the bills that caused the ensuing online fire storm.

http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_26...ark-dayton

The Dayton's response

Quote:"I think its tacky, myself. But its their restaurant, and they have a right to freedom of expressions, and so if they're going to make this their way of objecting to it, people can decide for themselves whether they want to continue to patronize a restaurant that is trying to, opposes paying people $8 an hour,"

See the lefts objection is not that it cast 35 cents more per meal but that people are being told *WHY* it will cost them 35 cents more per dish.

Should have just raised each dish by 35 cents instead of adding that charge imho...wouldn't that do the trick without people going irate? Or am I missing something? Is the fee still taxed or no?

(08-12-2014 03:39 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Should have just raised each dish by 35 cents instead of adding that charge imho...wouldn't that do the trick without people going irate? Or am I missing something?

Like I said lefties are not mad about people having to spend more money, they are upset that people know *WHY*. For years they have raised taxes, and pushed more regulations forcing prices up and got to hide behind their attacks on "greedy business".

So if they raise the 35 cents per plate or add a fee.... In the words of Clinton...

What difference does it make?

This is how and why the left illustrates, yet again, it doesn't understand business, especially small business in the least.

(08-12-2014 03:43 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 03:39 PM)Doctor Krieger Wrote:  Should have just raised each dish by 35 cents instead of adding that charge imho...wouldn't that do the trick without people going irate? Or am I missing something?

Like I said lefties are not mad about people having to spend more money, they are upset that people know *WHY*. For years they have raised taxes, and pushed more regulations forcing prices up and got to hide behind their attacks on "greedy business".

So if they raise the 35 cents per plate or add a fee.... In the words of Clinton...

What difference does it make?

They're mad that they're getting it shoved back in their face...just as a liberal owner that might do the same would infuriate cons. Neither should even be stories imo.

ISN'T PARTISANSHIP FUN?!?!?!!!!!

I'm guessing he's really doing that because then he can leave the prices on his menu the same, so everything looks cheaper than it really is. Add the concept of tipping on top of that, and they're able to advertise prices that are much less than they really are.

Looks like you and your governor have something in common...

Once again BIE you have no clue about the left, but you still try to act like it.

Why would the left get upset about paying a quarter and a dime more for a meal? And nobody is getting upset that the restaurant is being stupid and displaying the "fee" on their bill. It will only cost them business.

(08-12-2014 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Once again BIE you have no clue about the left, but you still try to act like it.

Why would the left get upset about paying a quarter and a dime more for a meal? And nobody is getting upset that the restaurant is being stupid and displaying the "fee" on their bill. It will only cost them business.

Reading comprehension tom....

See the lefts objection is not that it cost 35 cents more per meal

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but rather they are upset people are being told *WHY* it will cost them 35 cents more per dish.

Nobody is upset? they guy has lefties from the other side of the damn country calling him and encouraging the guy to kill himself.. Our uber leftie Governor took the time to address the issue.

When the right says "if you raise minimum wages you raise prices" the left sticks their fingers in their ears and then their heads up their rears.

(08-12-2014 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Once again BIE you have no clue about the left, but you still try to act like it.

Why would the left get upset about paying a quarter and a dime more for a meal? And nobody is getting upset that the restaurant is being stupid and displaying the "fee" on their bill. It will only cost them business.

The OP is correct. Liberals are used to causing a rise in price and then blaming it on the business. They have been getting away with it since the inception of capitalism. It's kind of like abortion. They promote it under the guise of women's rights, but melt down when people see actual pictures of what an aborted human looks like.

(08-12-2014 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  It will only cost them business.

Maybe it will, maybe it won't. That remains to be seen. If all of his customers are indignant liberals who think like you, then yes it will cost him. If they are libertarians who like to see government called to task, they will give him more business. Minnesota is a liberal state, but Stillwater isn't exactly one of its more liberal hotspots.

Next time I'm in Stillwater (and I have family there, so I do visit), I will make a point to patronize this place for that very reason.

(08-12-2014 04:02 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  Once again BIE you have no clue about the left, but you still try to act like it.

Why would the left get upset about paying a quarter and a dime more for a meal? And nobody is getting upset that the restaurant is being stupid and displaying the "fee" on their bill. It will only cost them business.

If no one is upset, why would it cost them business?

Quote:"You couldn't just increase your prices by 35 cents for two meals? ... Shame on you," she wrote.

You might be a liberal if you're willing to pay an additional 35 cents on your meal tab but get upset over what they call it.

(08-12-2014 05:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:"You couldn't just increase your prices by 35 cents for two meals? ... Shame on you," she wrote.

You might be a liberal if you're willing to pay an additional 35 cents on your meal tab but get upset over what they call it.

It's not the price increase, it's making crying about it and adding it as a childish fee.

(08-12-2014 07:08 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 05:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:"You couldn't just increase your prices by 35 cents for two meals? ... Shame on you," she wrote.

You might be a liberal if you're willing to pay an additional 35 cents on your meal tab but get upset over what they call it.

It's not the price increase, it's making crying about it and adding it as a childish fee.

Who's crying or being childish?

(08-12-2014 07:08 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 05:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:"You couldn't just increase your prices by 35 cents for two meals? ... Shame on you," she wrote.

You might be a liberal if you're willing to pay an additional 35 cents on your meal tab but get upset over what they call it.

It's not the price increase, it's making crying about it and adding it as a childish fee.

Whats the difference between (1) just raising everything 35 cents and (2) raising everything 35 cents and telling people why..

The Answer - In case (2) you don't get to blame greedy businesses for the increasing cost of living, you see a lot of it is owned by government policy..

(08-12-2014 03:33 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  So Minnesota raised the Minimum Wage by 75 cents and *gasp* some businesses have to offset the cost.

Quote:Beemer says it's only his servers who make minimum wage, adding that, with tips, they regularly take home between $20 and $35 an hour. Dishwashers and cooks start at $10 an hour and $12 an hour, respectively.

"We've always taken great pride in attracting good people and paying them well," Beemer said. "I truly care about these people."

But raising his servers' pay to the new $8-an-hour minimum -- a 75-cent increase -- will cost him about $10,000 a year, he said. The restaurant, which operated at a loss last year, couldn't afford that.

Beemer calculated that adding a 35-cent charge to each bill, no matter how large the party or order, would offset the higher wages for his servers and the corresponding increases in payroll taxes and unemployment insurance. But it was spelling this out for his customers on the bills that caused the ensuing online fire storm.

http://www.twincities.com/politics/ci_26...ark-dayton

The Dayton's response

Quote:"I think its tacky, myself. But its their restaurant, and they have a right to freedom of expressions, and so if they're going to make this their way of objecting to it, people can decide for themselves whether they want to continue to patronize a restaurant that is trying to, opposes paying people $8 an hour,"

See the lefts objection is not that it cast 35 cents more per meal but that people are being told *WHY* it will cost them 35 cents more per dish.

It's BS to bring politics into your business. What happens when gas doubles, food prices go up or there is a war in a place that you order supplies? Suck it up raise your prices and move on.

(08-12-2014 07:20 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 07:08 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(08-12-2014 05:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

Quote:"You couldn't just increase your prices by 35 cents for two meals? ... Shame on you," she wrote.

You might be a liberal if you're willing to pay an additional 35 cents on your meal tab but get upset over what they call it.

It's not the price increase, it's making crying about it and adding it as a childish fee.

Who's crying or being childish?

He is. He is being a b1tch. My lab fees go up all the time. I don't put a *add'l lab fee* cost on my bills. I just tell my patients that costs have gone up, I haven't raised them in 8 years. They understand.

(08-12-2014 07:59 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  He is. He is being a b1tch. My lab fees go up all the time. I don't put a *add'l lab fee* cost on my bills. I just tell my patients that costs have gone up, I haven't raised them in 8 years. They understand.

No, you're being the whiny b*tch because this is exposing the impact of something you favor. I frankly think merchants should do more of this, and we should have laws encouraging them to do so, in order that consumers know who and what are responsible.

(08-12-2014 08:20 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  No, you're being the whiny b*tch because this is exposing the impact of something you favor. I frankly think merchants should do more of this, and we should have laws encouraging them to do so, in order that consumers know who and what are responsible.

No, no, no, because then Obama's face would be on every product we buy.