(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:21 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:11 AM)Paul M Wrote:  Put some bleachers out in the sand.

Blast the sand to glass and be done with them all.

What do you think Iran is gonna do when it gets an a-bomb?

Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

Are you seriously that naiveté? If they do use it as leverage, what do you think they will want as ransom in return for not using it. . For years the general community has done a great deal to not allow Iran nukes. You seem to say that we should allow all functioning gov't a nuke. Are you crazy? or just naiveté? Troubling.

Making quite a big

(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:29 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:25 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:24 AM)EagleX Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

I'm sorry, did you just refer to the iranian government as "rational"?

Rational to the point they wouldn't put their power in jeopardy.

They're not a militia group. They're still a group of politicians that care about staying in power. At the core, they're not really much different than politicians here.

wait. stop. you're srsly saying the there isn't a big difference between rouhani and, say (just off the top of my head) , olympia snowe?

srsly?

You're either intentionally looking past my point or you're not very smart.

Politicians like being in power. Politicians will say things that pander to their voting bloc. Hating Israel and the U.S. fit that bill, but those politicians ultimately understand that attacking Israel or the U.S. would result in their destruction. They're not going to do anything. Being a politician brings too much wealth and benefits. They're not going to give that up, even if they do want to see Israel bombed into oblivion.

These people aren't stupid. They know that don't stand a chance. It would be virtually the entire world against them, so they'll do what politicians here do: pander, pander, pander.

I'm reading what you have written. perhaps that is unreasonable of me.

(07-13-2014 08:19 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Nothing could be better than an all out Muslim civil war to show the violent insanity of the faith for what it really is.

So long as they keep the taps open.

(07-14-2014 10:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:21 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:17 AM)TigerBlue4Ever Wrote:  Blast the sand to glass and be done with them all.

What do you think Iran is gonna do when it gets an a-bomb?

Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

Are you seriously that naiveté? If they do use it as leverage, what do you think they will want as ransom in return for not using it. . For years the general community has done a great deal to not allow Iran nukes. You seem to say that we should allow all functioning gov't a nuke. Are you crazy? or just naiveté? Troubling.

Making quite a big

So are you crazy? or naiveté?

Your end of the day, may mean end of the world for many dead people. So if Iran gets a nuke, your position is no biggie?

(07-14-2014 10:45 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 08:21 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  What do you think Iran is gonna do when it gets an a-bomb?

Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

Are you seriously that naiveté? If they do use it as leverage, what do you think they will want as ransom in return for not using it. . For years the general community has done a great deal to not allow Iran nukes. You seem to say that we should allow all functioning gov't a nuke. Are you crazy? or just naiveté? Troubling.

Making quite a big

So are you crazy? or naiveté?

Your end of the day, may mean end of the world for many dead people. So if Iran gets a nuke, your position is no biggie?

I'm not saying we should let them have one without consequences. I'm just saying they're not going to use it.

I agree we shouldn't let Iran improve their leverage in any regard, but I also understand that they're not going to use it.

They're a more stable and rational government than NK and even NK knows better than to actually use their nuclear weapons.

(07-14-2014 10:51 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:45 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

Are you seriously that naiveté? If they do use it as leverage, what do you think they will want as ransom in return for not using it. . For years the general community has done a great deal to not allow Iran nukes. You seem to say that we should allow all functioning gov't a nuke. Are you crazy? or just naiveté? Troubling.

Making quite a big

So are you crazy? or naiveté?

Your end of the day, may mean end of the world for many dead people. So if Iran gets a nuke, your position is no biggie?

I'm not saying we should let them have one without consequences. I'm just saying they're not going to use it.

I agree we shouldn't let Iran improve their leverage in any regard, but I also understand that they're not going to use it.

They're a more stable and rational government than NK and even NK knows better than to actually use their nuclear weapons.

NK is 1-for-3 in nuke tests, and has probably stopped testing because they keep embarrassing themselves. unless their goal is to nuke okinawa, their missile tests aren't that much more impressive.

(07-14-2014 10:51 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:45 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:40 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:37 AM)SumOfAllFears Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 10:22 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Nothing.

They'll use it for leverage, but at the end of the day, they're a functioning government. Functioning governments are rational to the point of self preservation. Using any type of nuclear weapon only ensures your demise.

Are you seriously that naiveté? If they do use it as leverage, what do you think they will want as ransom in return for not using it. . For years the general community has done a great deal to not allow Iran nukes. You seem to say that we should allow all functioning gov't a nuke. Are you crazy? or just naiveté? Troubling.

Making quite a big

So are you crazy? or naiveté?

Your end of the day, may mean end of the world for many dead people. So if Iran gets a nuke, your position is no biggie?

I'm not saying we should let them have one without consequences. I'm just saying they're not going to use it.

I agree we shouldn't let Iran improve their leverage in any regard, but I also understand that they're not going to use it.

They're a more stable and rational government than NK and even NK knows better than to actually use their nuclear weapons.

Your statement that they are not going to use it, is a supposition? We do know where those kind of assumption lead. You are also assuming that they are "stable and rational", and assuming it will continue....... Maybe you should rethink your position. You do know what a Caliphate is?

If ISIS has no qualms about destroying MECCA, then what is stopping them from destroying THE DOME OF THE ROCK? What prophecy is that.... hmmmm? The end times.

Quote:ISIS destroys shrines and mosques, may be targeting Mecca

Sort of hard to know who to root for here.........

(07-14-2014 12:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

Quote:ISIS destroys shrines and mosques, may be targeting Mecca

Sort of hard to know who to root for here.........

I'd like to think that ISIS will be a wake up call to leaders in the middle east about what militant extremists can do.


.....but it won't be. They'll just blame it on the west and Israel.

(07-14-2014 01:13 PM)Niner National Wrote:  

(07-14-2014 12:51 PM)Lord Stanley Wrote:  

Quote:ISIS destroys shrines and mosques, may be targeting Mecca

Sort of hard to know who to root for here.........

I'd like to think that ISIS will be a wake up call to leaders in the middle east about what militant extremists can do.


.....but it won't be. They'll just blame it on the west and Israel.

I would have thought we learned that one once and for all on 9/11