thanking their goverment for sending the Democrats a massive wave of new voters. He hopes to see more arriving in the coming months.
http://www.politico.com/story/2014/06/jo...07880.html

I hear the only thing illegals have to say to get in to the country is they are fleeing drug violence. All this time I though political asylum only applied to those fleeing oppressive governments.

(06-16-2014 06:59 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I hear the only thing illegals have to say to get in to the country is they are fleeing drug violence. All this time I though political asylum only applied to those fleeing oppressive governments.

It doesn't take much to get yourself into a holding facility, but that doesn't mean that's a pleasant existence.

(06-16-2014 07:51 PM)I45owl Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 06:59 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I hear the only thing illegals have to say to get in to the country is they are fleeing drug violence. All this time I though political asylum only applied to those fleeing oppressive governments.

It doesn't take much to get yourself into a holding facility, but that doesn't mean that's a pleasant existence.

Considering where most come from as sad as it is to say it, it's probably an improvement for them.

The Guatemala govt is complaining about the conditions of these holding cells. Can you believe these people? Only the democrats could do something this f'ed up.

The hubris of a government to complain about their kids getting raped by US government workers...

Guys, this is a team effort to get our policies so ****** up.

He was at the World Cup match tonight. Probably visit his brother in St Thomas on the way back.

(06-16-2014 08:36 PM)I45owl Wrote:  The hubris of a government to complain about their kids getting raped by US government workers...

Guys, this is a team effort to get our policies so ****** up.

we're talking about parents that gave their kids to smugglers, FFS, but have you got evidence of rape by border officials?

. . . and what do you mean by "team effort"? for that matter, what do you mean by "policy"? this tsunami of 12 year olds is the direct result of not having a policy, period. and that is the hall mark of this dysfunctional administration.

If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

More than likely the parents themselves are in the US already and were trying to bring their kids up. Conditions in Guatemala aren't up to US standards, but neither is it Africa nor Haiti. Most of them probably have attended school before, and probably lived in a house with a bed. I've said it on other threads, crossing into the US is far more difficult than what you guys think. Due to the expense and difficulty of crossing, its actually easier to bring their families into the US then to make a yearly trip for a visit.

(06-17-2014 12:58 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

More than likely the parents themselves are in the US already and were trying to bring their kids up. Conditions in Guatemala aren't up to US standards, but neither is it Africa nor Haiti. Most of them probably have attended school before, and probably lived in a house with a bed. I've said it on other threads, crossing into the US is far more difficult than what you guys think. Due to the expense and difficulty of crossing, its actually easier to bring their families into the US then to make a yearly trip for a visit.

You may be correct. Which is why I find it so amusing that others actually believe that people are crossing illegally simply to vote.

(06-17-2014 01:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:58 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

More than likely the parents themselves are in the US already and were trying to bring their kids up. Conditions in Guatemala aren't up to US standards, but neither is it Africa nor Haiti. Most of them probably have attended school before, and probably lived in a house with a bed. I've said it on other threads, crossing into the US is far more difficult than what you guys think. Due to the expense and difficulty of crossing, its actually easier to bring their families into the US then to make a yearly trip for a visit.

You may be correct. Which is why I find it so amusing that others actually believe that people are crossing illegally simply to vote.

We're already 17,000,000,000,000+ in debt....what's the big deal about tons of others coming over to take advantage of our resources, amirite? I mean, they're not here to vote....they just want money.....but at least $15/hr, right?

(06-16-2014 06:59 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  I hear the only thing illegals have to say to get in to the country is they are fleeing drug violence. All this time I though political asylum only applied to those fleeing oppressive governments.

Probably true. They are just crossing the border, going to a border agent who then gives them a bus ticket elsewhere and a court order to appear in front of a judge. Anyone want to place bets as to if ANY of the illegals ever appear before said judge?

Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

Like what, change the language on everything, and voice prompts everywhere? Think they'd do the same for us?

(06-17-2014 01:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:58 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

More than likely the parents themselves are in the US already and were trying to bring their kids up. Conditions in Guatemala aren't up to US standards, but neither is it Africa nor Haiti. Most of them probably have attended school before, and probably lived in a house with a bed. I've said it on other threads, crossing into the US is far more difficult than what you guys think. Due to the expense and difficulty of crossing, its actually easier to bring their families into the US then to make a yearly trip for a visit.

You may be correct. Which is why I find it so amusing that others actually believe that people are crossing illegally simply to vote.

Nobody is saying they will be voting tomorrow. But how about in two or six years? Pretty sure folks at the polls won't be checking IDs.

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

Note, that's with essentially no detection process. Wonder how many would be detected if there were real controls in place.

And this is Florida, right? How many dozens would have been needed to change the outcome of the 2000 presidential election?

(06-17-2014 01:05 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:58 AM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 12:40 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  If you were a parent in a Latin American country, you would do anything to save your children from the conditions these people live in.

More than likely the parents themselves are in the US already and were trying to bring their kids up. Conditions in Guatemala aren't up to US standards, but neither is it Africa nor Haiti. Most of them probably have attended school before, and probably lived in a house with a bed. I've said it on other threads, crossing into the US is far more difficult than what you guys think. Due to the expense and difficulty of crossing, its actually easier to bring their families into the US then to make a yearly trip for a visit.

You may be correct. Which is why I find it so amusing that others actually believe that people are crossing illegally simply to vote.

Unlike most of you, I actually know quite a few illegals. I've been invited to baptisms, quinceneras and a few BBQ's to enjoy a few drinks at their houses. I can assure you that the last thing ANY of them want to do is to stick their heads out more than they have to. Of all the ways to cheat at the ballot box, asking illegals to vote is like asking oklalittledixie to become grand Marshall at a gay pride parade. Just not going to happen on so many levels.

(06-17-2014 05:37 PM)TStatebobcat Wrote:  

(06-17-2014 08:18 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  Fraud: Local NBC Investigation Discovers Dozens of Illegal Voters in Florida

So out of tens of millions illegals you found "dozens" of illegal voters. Multiply that by 50 states and you may get a few hundred nationally.

you cannot be serious.