Quote:Oh...and one more. Homosexuality is not Pedophilia and Pedophilia is not Homosexuality. Why is this still a bone of contention for otherwise educated people?

Although this is only anecdotal, there was a local newspaper investigation into allegations of pedophilia by several Catholic priests who were defrocked. The paper uncovered police records of these (no longer) priests being arrested in "drag parks." In the three cases, the paper found evidence of both adult homosexual activity and male pedophilia.

There was also a reported case of a local university professor, who was openly gay, who got busted in a Caribbean country with underage boys.

Then there is always Gerry Stubbs.

Maybe not every gay is a pedophile but there sure seems to be at least a propensity for this activity.

I have read several articles written by psychologist that say your first adolescent orgazim plays a huge roll in your sexual preference as an adult. Unfortunately for many children it is same sex and usually one of the participants knows better.

(06-16-2014 06:02 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I have read several articles written by psychologist that say your first adolescent orgazim plays a huge roll in your sexual preference as an adult. Unfortunately for many children it is same sex and usually one of the participants knows better.

Sounds like there could be cases of pedophilia based on that.

Any time I hear a retort that begins"so you're saying.... " It reminds me of the commercial where the guy talks to the phone repairman and says "so there is a chance the phone IS broken... If you guys remember it.
Any way, any retort that starts that way is a non-starter. It's a simplistic way to put words in anothers mouth, usually by expressing some idea the writer already knows the person has not said. Very childish, very simplistic and not very honest.

(06-16-2014 04:00 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 02:54 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 02:45 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 12:50 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 12:46 PM)Paul M Wrote:  OD, there are members of the APA who have written papers and argued children can consent to and are not harmed by sex with adults. There is already early movement on normalizing pedophilia.

In years to come, you're going to be on the receiving end of the name calling. "Pedophobia" will be thrown your way. Maybe someday, it a moment of clarity, you'll be reminded of these discussions.

My liberalism has limits. Sex between a child and an adult is a violation of boundaries. plain and simple. I hope, like the rest of you on here, We never see that day. I personally don't see it ever happening. At least most of us on here can agree on this point.

And 30 years ago most adults could have agreed that the homosexual lifestyle was deviant. Most of us would have said Businesses should not be forced to cater to gay weddings....

If I had sad to a reasonably intelligent adult in 1980 "Hey in 35 years they will start putting bakers out of business if they refuse to make a gay wedding cake" the response would have been "Oh its never going to be like that"..

Progressives govern like chefs cook frogs... Too slowly for the victims to notice..

Think about what you said. "30 years ago... 35 years ago.... these societal changes did not take place exclusively on the dems watch. Repubs have had their fair share of presidencys.

Im sorry youll have to show me where I was talking about either political party... Publicity aside W and his dad were not exactly staunch conservatives.

Quote:Let's not make changes in mores all about libs. It is a societal shift.

Which is being pushed by libs...

Point conceded, although taken in context, it's pretty clear you were implying dems, simply because your second statement mentions libs specifically. Again here we are making blanket statements again. "which is being pushed by libs" . One might counter "and some Log Cabin republicans"

(06-16-2014 06:02 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I have read several articles written by psychologist that say your first adolescent orgazim plays a huge roll in your sexual preference as an adult. Unfortunately for many children it is same sex and usually one of the participants knows better.

What? You gonna be in love with your hand for the rest of your life?

(06-16-2014 09:18 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 06:02 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I have read several articles written by psychologist that say your first adolescent orgazim plays a huge roll in your sexual preference as an adult. Unfortunately for many children it is same sex and usually one of the participants knows better.

What? You gonna be in love with your hand for the rest of your life?

Blatant over statement based on absolutely no real information. Fo Shizzle probably got nearer the truth.

(06-16-2014 09:18 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 06:02 PM)ODU BLUE Wrote:  I have read several articles written by psychologist that say your first adolescent orgazim plays a huge roll in your sexual preference as an adult. Unfortunately for many children it is same sex and usually one of the participants knows better.

What? You gonna be in love with your hand for the rest of your life?

Articles mention that as well.

(06-16-2014 09:17 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Point conceded, although taken in context, it's pretty clear you were implying dems, simply because your second statement mentions libs specifically.

All elephants are grey but not all gray things are elephants... I implied nothing about the Dems as a whole, I merely said the left, libs, or progressives. SOme of those guys exist in all parties though most of them happen to also be dems.

Quote:Again here we are making blanket statements again. "which is being pushed by libs" . One might counter "and some Log Cabin republicans"

You're assuming a log cabin Republican could not also be a lib... You seem to have a very black and white view of political parties.

(06-17-2014 10:16 AM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote:  

(06-16-2014 09:17 PM)Old Dominion Wrote:  Point conceded, although taken in context, it's pretty clear you were implying dems, simply because your second statement mentions libs specifically.

All elephants are grey but not all gray things are elephants... I implied nothing about the Dems as a whole, I merely said the left, libs, or progressives. SOme of those guys exist in all parties though most of them happen to also be dems.

Quote:Again here we are making blanket statements again. "which is being pushed by libs" . One might counter "and some Log Cabin republicans"

You're assuming a log cabin Republican could not also be a lib... You seem to have a very black and white view of political parties.

Again, if you want to hang your hat on possibilities, fine. I prefer to think in terms of probabilities. To imply Log Cabin repub can also be liberal is patently absurd, from a practical standpoint.