(05-29-2014 09:11 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  invite UTEP & go with 7 in east n 6 in west

No thank you. I would only support going west for BYU.

Or possibly some remote chance of a MWC collapse and SDST, BYU, etc.

UTEP is a non-starter.

(05-28-2014 10:02 PM)illusionescape Wrote:  East Division
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
South Florida
Temple

West Division
Houston
Memphis
Navy
Southern Methodist
Tulane
Tulsa

Move Navy to the East and Cincy to the West and I'll be alright with that.

(05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?

To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.

I remember that. Word was they want to be aligned with the private schools.

(05-29-2014 12:36 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  looking at that map...wow everyone is so damn spaced away from each other! Crap,

it's actually not that bad when you look at the map, 2 nice clusters (ecu, navy, temple, uconn / houston, tulane, smu, tusla, memphis) with 3 outlier schools (ucf, usf and cincy).

(05-28-2014 11:32 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 11:18 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 11:05 PM)pesik Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote:  A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?

Anyway if those are the divisions it almost looks like a completely different conference for UCF and ECU (Ignoring that USF and Cincy were previously CUSA). Whoever has the other on the road gets a fair amount of fresh faces at home.

its still a rumor, the "gaining steam" is ucf beat writer asking all the coaches how they think or want the divisions to be, ecu's coach ruff says "he thinks theyd likely want west because they recruit texas

my counter to that is if cared so much about playing texas they play in texas more than once every other year which is what they do now whn they were were indy

temple coach wants a split usf/ucf that doesnt mean thatll happen either

for all the reasons you could say navy wants west, could be solved with smu/navy permanent cross divisional rivals

Yes but aren't reports of Navy possibly being in the west coming from chatter during the official AAC meetings? So it moved from message board fodder to conference meeting discussion?

i still think we end up with true east west, recruiting balance saves c

but i guess you can count navy west as an option,

but aresco originally said geography was the divider and we were supposed to decided the next 2 days, but it is being reported that it is being pushed back, so looks like someone or multiple teams don't like their division

Or there could potentially be more teams added in the west that would make announcing divisions now premature. There is no need to have divisions finalized until 2015.

(05-29-2014 08:04 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Simply for Fla exposure.....the Florida teams need to be in different divisions.

What's wrong with TX?

Can we just switch division styles every year? Maybe one year try out the North-South, then East-West, then Zipper or whatever to see what's most efficient for us?

(05-29-2014 11:27 AM)chrisiskingx Wrote:  Can we just switch division styles every year? Maybe one year try out the North-South, then East-West, then Zipper or whatever to see what's most efficient for us?

The issue with a zipper format or changing divisions every season is that you hurt your brand identity. I can't tell you who is in what ACC division but I can name the SEC, PAC-12 and the new Big Ten divisions because there is sound logic based on geography and rivalry games.

I still believe north-south solves just about every issue. Navy in a north-south arrangement will play one Texas school a year and make two trips to Texas every four years. That is about the same frequency of Texas trips with their recent schedules. They are also going to play Tulane and Tulsa twice in a four period plus the eastern block schools every season.

In a north-south arrangement the Florida schools only have to travel to the northeast twice in a four year period instead of four times. Cincinnati, ECU, and Navy also can play in cold weather depending on the time of year. Grouping the Florida schools with the warmer climate schools like Houston, SMU, Tulane and Tulsa makes sense if there is a concern about playing in colder temperatures.

(05-29-2014 09:35 AM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 09:11 AM)templefootballfan Wrote:  invite UTEP & go with 7 in east n 6 in west

No thank you. I would only support going west for BYU.

Or possibly some remote chance of a MWC collapse and SDST, BYU, etc.

UTEP is a non-starter.

UTEP is 747 miles of empty desert away from us. No thank you.

(05-29-2014 08:23 AM)quo vadis Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 08:04 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  Simply for Fla exposure.....the Florida teams need to be in different divisions.

No we don't. Why should we be in separate divisions just because you guys want access to Florida? That doesn't benefit USF or UCF at all, in fact we could do without the extra recruiting competition.

I was referring to TV exposure for the AAC...but...recruiting also would be consideration. I doubt this is going to happen anyway.

(05-29-2014 09:23 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  I like Navy in the west simply so we can avoid the triple option

I can't argue with that either.

I think though playing annually does help your team prepare for the TO. At least your players have seen it before. Nothing is worse than playing one of these teams 3 or 4 years apart.

@shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

If Navy truly wants to be in the West I can live with it. We have a few naval bases within driving distance that would/could make for a nice visiting section. Which is something that this conference will always have trouble with considering the distances involved.

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

So am I reading that we are going with the East/West setup regardless, and who is in them could be determined by tomorrow?

Do this...

East

Ucf
USf
Ecu
Uconn
Temple
tulane

West

Tulsa
SMU
Houston
Cincy
Navy
Memphis

(05-29-2014 12:25 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

If Navy truly wants to be in the West I can live with it. We have a few naval bases within driving distance that would/could make for a nice visiting section. Which is something that this conference will always have trouble with considering the distances involved.

Her prediction is this:

East: ECU, Cincinnati, Temple, UConn, UCF, USF
West: Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis

I would be very happy if the divisions came out like this. As a UC fan we get all our former Big East rivals plus two very good programs in UCF and ECU. Eastern exposure and games against teams that actually have fans.

(05-29-2014 12:32 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:25 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

If Navy truly wants to be in the West I can live with it. We have a few naval bases within driving distance that would/could make for a nice visiting section. Which is something that this conference will always have trouble with considering the distances involved.

Her prediction is this:

East: ECU, Cincinnati, Temple, UConn, UCF, USF
West: Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis

I would be very happy if the divisions came out like this. As a UC fan we get all our former Big East rivals plus two very good programs in UCF and ECU. Eastern exposure and games against teams that actually have fans.

Agreed. This would make for some exciting UCF schedules in the future. I'd say if it's going to be like this, there's no point in having permanent cross-division rivals.

(05-29-2014 12:32 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:25 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

If Navy truly wants to be in the West I can live with it. We have a few naval bases within driving distance that would/could make for a nice visiting section. Which is something that this conference will always have trouble with considering the distances involved.

Her prediction is this:

East: ECU, Cincinnati, Temple, UConn, UCF, USF
West: Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis

I would be very happy if the divisions came out like this. As a UC fan we get all our former Big East rivals plus two very good programs in UCF and ECU. Eastern exposure and games against teams that actually have fans.

I don't understand. If that's the setup, how will the conference schedule so that UC and UCF won't play each other??

(05-29-2014 12:32 PM)bearcatlawjd Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:25 PM)GO Coogs GO!!! Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 12:18 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  @shannonowens: AAC commish Mike Aresco just said it's possible East, West divisions could be decided tomorrow. Navy wants to be in West.

If Navy truly wants to be in the West I can live with it. We have a few naval bases within driving distance that would/could make for a nice visiting section. Which is something that this conference will always have trouble with considering the distances involved.

Her prediction is this:

East: ECU, Cincinnati, Temple, UConn, UCF, USF
West: Houston, SMU, Navy, Tulane, Tulsa, Memphis

I would be very happy if the divisions came out like this. As a UC fan we get all our former Big East rivals plus two very good programs in UCF and ECU. Eastern exposure and games against teams that actually have fans.

@shannonowens @American_Conf Really seems unbalanced, 4 private schools on one side. Best Football is in the east by far.

Shannon Owens-Green ‏@shannonowens 17m
@Piratelife12 That was definitely a concern, but I think geography was still the biggest factor.

Ii looks good for season ticket holders. But I feel east will be alot tougher than the west. Plus with Navy likely being the crossover rivalry w/ ECU will play the best teams in conference every year. Some years will also get Houston.

lol... Everyone wants to be in the East... Fk, why don't we just have one Fg division, not two and call it the big east division. My