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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:30 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:19 PM)ElectricCoogaloo Wrote:
(05-28-2014 11:27 PM)panicstricken Wrote: I bet Memphis slides east and UCF slides west
The league should be hoping for championship games that could potentially pit UCF against USF/ECU/UCONN
Thats a tough western division: Houston, Tulsa, SMU, Navy, UCF and Tulane
Highly doubt UCF would want to be in west, if they have a choice.
Did you read the article where O'Leary said:
"We're from Florida, I don't want to play up in the north all the time. It affects Florida kids playing in cold weather more than it does these kids [coming to Florida from northern states]."
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
It should be:
North
Connecticut
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy
East Carolina
Memphis
South
Central Florida
South Florida
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Tulsa
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
East looks stacked if Navy goes West.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:45 PM)Metacog Drivel Wrote: East looks stacked if Navy goes West.
It does. Kinda looks imbalanced too.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:32 PM)pesik Wrote: (05-28-2014 11:18 PM)ncbeta Wrote: (05-28-2014 11:05 PM)pesik Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
Anyway if those are the divisions it almost looks like a completely different conference for UCF and ECU (Ignoring that USF and Cincy were previously CUSA). Whoever has the other on the road gets a fair amount of fresh faces at home.
its still a rumor, the "gaining steam" is ucf beat writer asking all the coaches how they think or want the divisions to be, ecu's coach ruff says "he thinks theyd likely want west because they recruit texas
my counter to that is if cared so much about playing texas they play in texas more than once every other year which is what they do now whn they were were indy
temple coach wants a split usf/ucf that doesnt mean thatll happen either
for all the reasons you could say navy wants west, could be solved with smu/navy permanent cross divisional rivals
Yes but aren't reports of Navy possibly being in the west coming from chatter during the official AAC meetings? So it moved from message board fodder to conference meeting discussion?
i still think we end up with true east west, recruiting balance saves c
but i guess you can count navy west as an option,
but aresco originally said geography was the divider and we were supposed to decided the next 2 days, but it is being reported that it is being pushed back, so looks like someone or multiple teams don't like their division
How is geography going to be the divider if a majority of the leagues teams are in the eastern time zone? There were always going to be some concessions made to reality. Frankly, north-south works the best if you base it on geography--but many eastern teams would like better access to Florida recruiting. East/West worked ok if you can find a eastern school who WANTS to be in the west. Looks like they found a volunteer.
That said, my belief is that governance changes will make divisions unnecessary for the AAC. I wouldn't be a bit surprised if divisions are announced in 2014--but never used in 2015.
(This post was last modified: 05-29-2014 08:56 AM by Attackcoog.)
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
looking at that map...wow everyone is so damn spaced away from each other! Crap,
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
I verify this comment.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 01:35 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: (05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
I verify this comment.
I thank y'all for answering my question and providing the follow up verification.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 02:09 AM)ncbeta Wrote: (05-29-2014 01:35 AM)Wilkie01 Wrote: (05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
I verify this comment.
I thank y'all for answering my question and providing the follow up verification.
I confirm, too. Right after Memphis was invited to the Big East in February of 2011, our then AD was quoted in the Commercial Appeal as saying Navy had expressed interest in the Western Division.
Of course, at that time, San Diego State and Boise were expected to join.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: It should be:
North
Connecticut
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy
East Carolina
Memphis
South
Central Florida
South Florida
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Tulsa
That really not a bad idea division wise. Probably puts Navy at a big disadvantage but Memphis, Temple, and UConn are winnable games for them.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
This ^^^^^^^
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:19 PM)BullsFanInTX Wrote: "Any way you slice it, it leaves a traveling stretch for some schools. Eight of the 12 American teams share the East Coast time zone and, equally of interest to some coaches, just two schools live in a state known for warm weather 365 days out of the year."
LOL. I guess writer did not realize Houston and New Orleans are subtropical cities with palm trees everywhere and warm weather virtually all year similar to northern half of Florida.
Nor does she know where the time zones are. There aren't 8 schools in EST. There's only 7, and 5 in CST.
EST
UConn
Temple
Navy
ECU
UCF
USF
Cincy
CST
Tulane
Memphis
Tulsa
SMU
Houston
She's an idiot.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 01:08 AM)BearcatMan Wrote: (05-28-2014 10:45 PM)ncbeta Wrote: A small group of fans have been saying Navy to the west for some time now. I can't remember who but why has this been a rumor for so long? Just because we know Navy needs a presence outside of the NE?
To answer your original question. It was widely reported when Navy originally accepted an invitation to join the then Big East that they wanted to be in the Western Division should the need for a divisional split arise. We haven't just be making rumors out of thin air, every major outlet that reported on the Big East realignment at the time had very similar reports regarding Navy's intent upon joining.
Cincy to the west makes far more sense than Navy, which is just silly. But if Navy wants to go west, then I won't try to stop them, LOL.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 11:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: It should be:
North
Connecticut
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy
East Carolina
Memphis
South
Central Florida
South Florida
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Tulsa
Best case scenario for all parties, IMO.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-28-2014 10:02 PM)illusionescape Wrote: East Division
Central Florida
Cincinnati
Connecticut
East Carolina
South Florida
Temple
West Division
Houston
Memphis
Navy
Southern Methodist
Tulane
Tulsa
Now if we could just shift Cincinnati & ECU to the west and replace them with Tulane & Memphis my plan will be complete. Bwahahahahahah!!!!
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 07:05 AM)LUcanesfan Wrote: (05-28-2014 11:43 PM)Wilkie01 Wrote: It should be:
North
Connecticut
Temple
Cincinnati
Navy
East Carolina
Memphis
South
Central Florida
South Florida
Tulane
SMU
Houston
Tulsa
Best case scenario for all parties, IMO.
This sucks for north recruiting. Why not Memphis in the south and Tulsa in the north?
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
Simply for Fla exposure.....the Florida teams need to be in different divisions.
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
(05-29-2014 08:04 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Simply for Fla exposure.....the Florida teams need to be in different divisions.
In that case the zipper alignment would work best. I guess it all depends on if the everyone can decide on a permanent cross-over rival...
Now that I think about it, wasn't the zipper alignment originally decided on in the beginning?
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RE: UCF / USF divisional split unlikely... Navy to west gains steam
Houston, SMU, Tulsa//Navy, Cincinnati, ECU
Tulane, Memphis//U Conn, Temple//UCF, USF
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