(05-29-2014 02:09 PM)Eagletats Wrote:  In 1924 Texas officially named the armadillo as their state bird.

Just saying...

If you've ever surprised an armadillo, you would know they can fly.

But the state bird is now the mockingbird.

http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/Texas/state_symbols.html

(05-30-2014 10:18 AM)OptimisticOwl Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 02:09 PM)Eagletats Wrote:  In 1924 Texas officially named the armadillo as their state bird.

Just saying...

If you've ever surprised an armadillo, you would know they can fly.

But the state bird is now the mockingbird.

http://www.statesymbolsusa.org/Texas/state_symbols.html

Actually watched an armadillo tear out the oil pan on a car once driving thru Orange on my way to Houston many years ago. Guy sprayed oil for about a mile before he finally got the car under control and off I-10. What a mess!

(05-29-2014 09:08 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 03:11 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 07:53 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 03:30 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  For some really good reading try 'Empire of the Summer Moon'. A history of the Comanche and the first whites to arrive. Very good root history of Texas. The Comanche were the baddest native American tribe by a long shot. Masters of their place and time.

Sorry, but I'll go with the Lakota or "Sioux" as they're known by most.

Based on what? If you haven't/didn't read the book then I can't help you. Beating that idiot, Custer, doesn't constitute a great nation. The Lakota retreated from every known encounter with the Comanche.

Maybe I'm not privy to as much information as you are, but in the reading I've done, the Lakota had some run-ins with the Comanche in the Black Hills and drove them out. If I'm wrong on that, or if you know of other skirmishes between them, I'm all ears (or rather eyes in this case lol).

I have to correct both of us. It appears the Lakota and Comanche never crossed paths. I had the Osage as a Sioux band, but that was erroneous. The Comanche beat the Osage repeatedly, also ran the Apache off the plains and into the desert southwest and mountains. But, i could not find any contact between the Lakota and Comanche. The plains tribes of the buffalo culture were greatly affected by the advent of the horse. Lots of history and research out there on them and I'm just touching on much of it. The Comanche mastery of the horse was quite remarkable. That skill alone enabled them to stop white expansion from the mid 1830s 'til the early 1870s.

(05-30-2014 06:26 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 09:08 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 03:11 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 07:53 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 03:30 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  For some really good reading try 'Empire of the Summer Moon'. A history of the Comanche and the first whites to arrive. Very good root history of Texas. The Comanche were the baddest native American tribe by a long shot. Masters of their place and time.

Sorry, but I'll go with the Lakota or "Sioux" as they're known by most.

Based on what? If you haven't/didn't read the book then I can't help you. Beating that idiot, Custer, doesn't constitute a great nation. The Lakota retreated from every known encounter with the Comanche.

Maybe I'm not privy to as much information as you are, but in the reading I've done, the Lakota had some run-ins with the Comanche in the Black Hills and drove them out. If I'm wrong on that, or if you know of other skirmishes between them, I'm all ears (or rather eyes in this case lol).

I have to correct both of us. It appears the Lakota and Comanche never crossed paths. I had the Osage as a Sioux band, but that was erroneous. The Comanche beat the Osage repeatedly, also ran the Apache off the plains and into the desert southwest and mountains. But, i could not find any contact between the Lakota and Comanche. The plains tribes of the buffalo culture were greatly affected by the advent of the horse. Lots of history and research out there on them and I'm just touching on much of it. The Comanche mastery of the horse was quite remarkable. That skill alone enabled them to stop white expansion from the mid 1830s 'til the early 1870s.

The Lakota and Comanche actually did have skirmishes in the Black Hills though, territory which the Lakota took and successfully defended against all other Native American challengers. The Lakota also played a part in driving the Apache south btw. You're right about the Comanche's mastery of the horse though. I believe they were actually the first Native American nomadic horse culture, and master it they did indeed!

Truth be told, and you probably know this as well as I do, white expansion may have been stopped altogether (or at the least, significantly delayed) if 80+% of Native Americans didn't die from exposure to European diseases. People have different numbers on that. At any rate, I feel as though we're hijacking the thread...lol. Cool talking to you about this stuff though, dude.

(05-30-2014 07:12 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-30-2014 06:26 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 09:08 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

(05-29-2014 03:11 PM)ultraviolet Wrote:  

(05-28-2014 07:53 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  Sorry, but I'll go with the Lakota or "Sioux" as they're known by most.

Based on what? If you haven't/didn't read the book then I can't help you. Beating that idiot, Custer, doesn't constitute a great nation. The Lakota retreated from every known encounter with the Comanche.

Maybe I'm not privy to as much information as you are, but in the reading I've done, the Lakota had some run-ins with the Comanche in the Black Hills and drove them out. If I'm wrong on that, or if you know of other skirmishes between them, I'm all ears (or rather eyes in this case lol).

I have to correct both of us. It appears the Lakota and Comanche never crossed paths. I had the Osage as a Sioux band, but that was erroneous. The Comanche beat the Osage repeatedly, also ran the Apache off the plains and into the desert southwest and mountains. But, i could not find any contact between the Lakota and Comanche. The plains tribes of the buffalo culture were greatly affected by the advent of the horse. Lots of history and research out there on them and I'm just touching on much of it. The Comanche mastery of the horse was quite remarkable. That skill alone enabled them to stop white expansion from the mid 1830s 'til the early 1870s.

The Lakota and Comanche actually did have skirmishes in the Black Hills though, territory which the Lakota took and successfully defended against all other Native American challengers. The Lakota also played a part in driving the Apache south btw. You're right about the Comanche's mastery of the horse though. I believe they were actually the first Native American nomadic horse culture, and master it they did indeed!

Truth be told, and you probably know this as well as I do, white expansion may have been stopped altogether (or at the least, significantly delayed) if 80+% of Native Americans didn't die from exposure to European diseases. People have different numbers on that. At any rate, I feel as though we're hijacking the thread...lol. Cool talking to you about this stuff though, dude.

Me too. Great history that is hardly touched by most, but I find it fascinating.