(05-14-2014 04:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 04:08 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 04:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  There seems to be growing evidence that human civilization may be older than we have believed it to be.

Nonsense. The world is only 5,000 years old!

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That's WKU for you.

Apparently identifying sarcasm isn't your strong suit.

Well it's definitely not yours, is it. Nice try at a subliminal stab at Christians, by the way.

(05-14-2014 03:49 PM)Niner National Wrote:  Interesting. Hadn't seen the one about Atlantis.

There is also an interesting site in Bosnia that is speculated to be a pyramid. Mainstream scientists call bull****, but it is an interesting read regardless.

http://beforeitsnews.com/beyond-science/...41772.html

There are also 12,000 year old temple relics that have been found in Turkey.

I doubt we'll ever know for sure on a lot of these old sites, but it is fun to read about. I'm sure there is so much we'll never know about the ancient world.

I don't trust mainstream scientists as far as I can throw a house anyways. If there's a chance something is out there, people will be running over each other to get there first, so they keep it all silent. I've also heard of 8 and 10' giant human fossils found in the Middle East, they try to debunk that too.

(05-14-2014 03:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  There seems to be growing evidence that human civilization may be older than we have believed it to be.

yeah i saw an awesome documentary of an indian (india not north america) campsite that was found underwater off the indian coastline that is believed to be 50,000 years old. it is part of a growing theory that human civilization is much older than we thought however most of these civilizations we in locations that have since been covered by ocean as sea levels rose.

This discovery involves a university professor and science. That means right-wingers are required to believe it is a lie that is part of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

(05-14-2014 06:39 PM)UM2001GRAD Wrote:  This discovery involves a university professor and science. That means right-wingers are required to believe it is a lie that is part of a vast left-wing conspiracy.

Shouldn't you be out picketing a Walmart, or something?

(05-14-2014 11:13 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:58 AM)No Bull Wrote:  A native American crossed over to "America' 1st. I wish i knew what that pure gentle soul named this new found continent. I hate that this 1st native "American" is not given the credit he or she deserves. I wish this 1st native American had his/her own Wikipedia page and that I knew what he/she wanted to call this land. It breaks my heart that the 1st discover of this land in unknown to this day...

People from Asia first set foot in the North America by crossing the Bering land bridge from Siberia to what is now Alaska tens of thousands of years ago. From there, they are believed to have spread out over the course of milennia, diverging genetically and populating North and South America.

My guess is it was not one person but a group of migratory people.

That's a theory and a plausible one. There is evidence some Eastern tribes came from Europe as well.

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(05-14-2014 04:13 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 04:08 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 04:08 PM)mathenis89 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 03:50 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  There seems to be growing evidence that human civilization may be older than we have believed it to be.

Nonsense. The world is only 5,000 years old!

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That's WKU for you.

Apparently identifying sarcasm isn't your strong suit.

Adam and Eve could have lived in the garden for millions of years before they were deceived.

I always found it strange that so many people never even consider or count those years even though they base some political/science arguments on the bible.

They have found Viking artifacts even in Oklahoma.

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(05-14-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:58 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:46 AM)john01992 Wrote:  columbus gets credit for discovering a place that he technically did not discover first, a place named after another italian explorer who sailed to the America's in the same time period, and a place that he insisted to his death that he did not discover.

Yeah, there's no way I'd ever have believed that America went for 40,000 or so years without someone finding it before 1492.

there were well documented rumors of a "lost continent in the west" in europe for quite some time prior to columbus.

In Europe. It was surely found well before then though.

I believe I read not too long ago that there are theories that point to the Polynesians landing on the west coast hundreds of years before Columbus. Not really much hard evidence to back it up though.

Phoenicians were also believed to have made it too the Western Hemisphere well before even the Norsemen...

(05-14-2014 07:31 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:37 AM)Niner National Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:23 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:02 AM)john01992 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 09:58 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Yeah, there's no way I'd ever have believed that America went for 40,000 or so years without someone finding it before 1492.

there were well documented rumors of a "lost continent in the west" in europe for quite some time prior to columbus.

In Europe. It was surely found well before then though.

I believe I read not too long ago that there are theories that point to the Polynesians landing on the west coast hundreds of years before Columbus. Not really much hard evidence to back it up though.

Phoenicians were also believed to have made it too the Western Hemisphere well before even the Norsemen...

I heard they were in Arizona.

(05-14-2014 06:52 PM)EverRespect Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 11:13 AM)CliftonAve Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:58 AM)No Bull Wrote:  A native American crossed over to "America' 1st. I wish i knew what that pure gentle soul named this new found continent. I hate that this 1st native "American" is not given the credit he or she deserves. I wish this 1st native American had his/her own Wikipedia page and that I knew what he/she wanted to call this land. It breaks my heart that the 1st discover of this land in unknown to this day...

People from Asia first set foot in the North America by crossing the Bering land bridge from Siberia to what is now Alaska tens of thousands of years ago. From there, they are believed to have spread out over the course of milennia, diverging genetically and populating North and South America.

My guess is it was not one person but a group of migratory people.

That's a theory and a plausible one. There is evidence some Eastern tribes came from Europe as well.

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they have evidence suggesting:

-alaska land bridge
-pacific crossing and landing in california
-european crossing from iceland to greenland to newfoundland
-british columbia coastal hopping
-crossing the bering sea by walking over ice or by boat
-there is also a campsite on the southern tip of south america that is as old as the alaskan land bridge. it would be nearly impossible to assume they managed to migrate from alaska to south america under the traditional land bridge theory.

it looks an awful lot like no one group settle the america's but rather several distinct groups over a number of different time periods. genetic/language research shows 6-7 distinct groups, one of which has a completely unknown origin which is pretty baffling. archeological evidence shows that cave paintings & flint stones found in france are exactly like some of the ones found in america.

The Inupiaq Indians are a pretty good racial proof of a land bridge having existed.

(05-14-2014 10:51 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:28 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Wonder if anything from the ship is salvageable. The picture I saw of what they believe to be the wreckage just looked like a pile of rocks and reef.

I don't think it will sail again...nor do I think they will be able to salvage any of the masts or anything. At this point it is probably not "salvageable".

You might would be surprised what they could bring up. If any of the wood from the hull got buried under the mud some could still be there. Everything above the mud line that isn't metal or stone will be gone, but enough could be found to ID the reck. It could be the Santa Maria or a later Spanish or European Ship. In any case it's a centuries old wreck of a fully rigged ship.

Here is the Mary Rose, King Henry the VIII's flag ship that sank in 1545 only 53 years after the Santa Maria.

I have the opinion that my ancestors crossed from the Bering Strait and are descendant from the Mongolian of Asia. If you see the physical features of Mongolians, Eskimos, American Indians (including those from Mexico) you will see that they have the same eye features, high cheek bones, pigmentation, and hair. Culture played a part in that certain tribes have different abodes due to climate and way of life, that is, nomadic or agricultural.

Something that has stayed in my mind for years is that there was this guy that I knew through my ex-wife who lived next door to her family. He had the distinctive look of what people would call a cave-man. And I'm not kidding, so I don't hold to all this mumbo jumbo scientific crap about evolution when in fact we still see modern day cavemen today. It was hard not to stare at him but I would look at him through the corner of my eye.

(05-14-2014 09:56 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:51 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:28 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Wonder if anything from the ship is salvageable. The picture I saw of what they believe to be the wreckage just looked like a pile of rocks and reef.

I don't think it will sail again...nor do I think they will be able to salvage any of the masts or anything. At this point it is probably not "salvageable".

You might would be surprised what they could bring up. If any of the wood from the hull got buried under the mud some could still be there. Everything above the mud line that isn't metal or stone will be gone, but enough could be found to ID the reck. It could be the Santa Maria or a later Spanish or European Ship. In any case it's a centuries old wreck of a fully rigged ship.

Here is the Mary Rose, King Henry the VIII's flag ship that sank in 1545 only 53 years after the Santa Maria.

The Mary Rose was bad @as. Henry VIII for all the infamy, did a lot of good for England as well.

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(05-14-2014 09:56 PM)ecumbh1999 Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 10:51 AM)No Bull Wrote:  

(05-14-2014 08:28 AM)Niner National Wrote:  Wonder if anything from the ship is salvageable. The picture I saw of what they believe to be the wreckage just looked like a pile of rocks and reef.

I don't think it will sail again...nor do I think they will be able to salvage any of the masts or anything. At this point it is probably not "salvageable".

You might would be surprised what they could bring up. If any of the wood from the hull got buried under the mud some could still be there. Everything above the mud line that isn't metal or stone will be gone, but enough could be found to ID the reck. It could be the Santa Maria or a later Spanish or European Ship. In any case it's a centuries old wreck of a fully rigged ship.

Here is the Mary Rose, King Henry the VIII's flag ship that sank in 1545 only 53 years after the Santa Maria.

Salvage is about reusing something. There is nothing useful coming off the ship after it's recovered. Still, I think its cool.

There is a BBC documentary on the bones recovered off of the Mary Rose on YouTube.