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Are any of y'all runners? I just started doing 5ks last month.

I jogged/walked the Dirty Girl 5k here in Atlanta which is a 5k mud run/obstacle course in April and just completed a traditional 5k yesterday.

Is there any good way to do training on the treadmill for these events? I would love to run around my neighborhood but with the way people whip around the curves I'm afraid I'd become roadkill.

Additionally what's the best way to deal with soreness and stiffness the next day?
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I'm no expert, but I do these things as part of my exercise.

Treadmill is a good tool, but it's not running. I recommend setting at least at 4% incline, and that starts to feel more like running.

It's also a great tool for interval training.

I really push avoiding concrete or even asphalt. It will save much wear and tear on ankle and knee joints. (Although you can twist an ankle on uneven grass). That's another nice thing about treadmills- softer impact.

PS Don't ignore weight training as well. Muscles get broken down w/ running. Resistance training builds it back up.
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i trail run, though that is, when i do run. only been out once this year. we have a decent size park a few blocks from my house that i've only walked around in thus far. jogging thru the woods is a pretty great time, you don't even need your own music as the birds and the wind rustling thru the trees provides ambiance. i can't answer any of your questions though
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I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.
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Since I'm turning 70 on Thursday, the walk from my La'Z'Boy to the toilet is the extent of my daily exercise.
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(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS
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(05-05-2014 11:10 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS

You’re not that far from Red Top Mountain or Allatoona Pass.
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(05-05-2014 11:21 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:10 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS

You’re not that far from Red Top Mountain or Allatoona Pass.

I'll have to google those. I'm not from here originally so I don't know where everything is. I'm a TN transplant.
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I hate running with a passion. I hate it so much that sometimes I have dreams about suddenly loving to run and then wake up dissapointed. I had to force myself to run before and after school in HS every day in hopes of making it to the military academy. Now I bike but will have to start the running thing again sooner or later. It's a lot easier when you're already in shape regardless of if you consistently run or not.

No suggestions for the soreness...stay hydrated.
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(05-05-2014 11:10 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS

Torch made a good suggestion: Run off pavement when possible.

Make sure you've got the right shoes. Go to a store that specializes in running shoes and has sales people who know how to look at your form, feet, etc. How your foot pronates (rolls through impact) can be affected/controlled by the correct shoes. I had terrible shin splints for years until I got the correct shoes (I'm an overpronator). The pain went away immediately.

Oh yeah; Advil.
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(05-05-2014 01:33 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:10 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS

Torch made a good suggestion: Run off pavement when possible.

Make sure you've got the right shoes. Go to a store that specializes in running shoes and has sales people who know how to look at your form, feet, etc. How your foot pronates (rolls through impact) can be affected/controlled by the correct shoes. I had terrible shin splints for years until I got the correct shoes (I'm an overpronator). The pain went away immediately.

Oh yeah; Advil.
Yep.. What they said.

Advil works good. I've always found if I do a little stretching before and a good stretch session after, I'm not as sore. Also eat a banana. They're awesome.
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I run 4 miles every other day. Brooks is right on the shoes. Seriously.

I use a treadmill during the week (because in the morning before work is the only time I can commit to it, and it's still dark out), and run outside on the weekends. Stay good and hydrated.

Torch is right on the treadmill. It's not running. However it IS close enough to get you ready for a 5K (at least to me, and I'm running in 2 this weekend)

A good rule of thumb is over train for a 5K, under train for a half marathon.

My quick and dirty pre-race food of choice is a Snickers bar. Sugar, carbs, protein, the total package. 03-lol
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(05-05-2014 01:33 PM)Brookes Owl Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 11:10 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  
(05-05-2014 10:45 AM)AngryAphid Wrote:  I’m guessing the OP is too far from the Silver Comet Trail.
If so, I’ve seen people run the trails at Red Top Mountain.

I love to hike, but this mysterious thing called “runners high” has always
eluded me. I’ve twice participated in the Peachtree, but in both instances
every step I took was more miserable than the one before it.

I live up in Acworth so it's a bit of a drive to the Silver Comet Trail. When I did the Dirty Girl it was a trail run which was great but the Cinco Loco that I did yesterday was on the pavement and my shins were killing me.

I ran track in middle school and often got that runner's high but I'm not in that kind of shape right now. Which is why I'm running to begin with! COGS

Torch made a good suggestion: Run off pavement when possible.

Make sure you've got the right shoes. Go to a store that specializes in running shoes and has sales people who know how to look at your form, feet, etc. How your foot pronates (rolls through impact) can be affected/controlled by the correct shoes. I had terrible shin splints for years until I got the correct shoes (I'm an overpronator). The pain went away immediately.

Oh yeah; Advil.

Yeah, I have good shoes. Went to Big Peach Running Co. and the shoes I have are great. My shins hurt a little following my 5k this past weekend but not to the degree that I used to experience with regular shoes.

My treadmill is already on a slight incline but I'll definitely look increasing it further. I'm actually preparing to enter the Kennesaw (GA) Grand Prix series which is predominately flat which I'm looking forward to. The hills I had to do this past weekend were brutal.

I'm mostly jogging/walking right now as I slowly work my way up to jogging the whole damn thing. I told my husband earlier today that I'm not the best runner in the world but that I really want to be good at it so I'm trying to enter a 5k at least once a month.
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Buc how long is it taking you to run a 5k iffen you don't mind me asking?
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Been running for almost 3 years. Doing my second Tough Mudder this Saturday. I didn't train as hard for it this year. Not as worried about my cardio as I am my upper body strength. The girlfriend wants to do a half sometime soon. I guess now would be a good time for that seeing as I can knock out about 8 miles with a 9 min/mile pace.
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I hate it when people try to use shoes to overcome their motion deficiency.

CORRECT YOUR MOTION.

I highly recommend Becoming a Supple Leopard: The Ultimate Guide to Resolving Pain, Preventing Injury, and Optimizing Athletic Performance by Kelly Starrett

http://www.amazon.com/Becoming-Supple-Le...936608588/



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I’m a bit dubious in the accuracy of running shoe scientific evaluation.
My wife had it done at two different stores which produced significantly
different results… except for the elevated price of the “ideal” shoe.
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I wear minimalist shoes. Either my Vibram 5 fingers or my New Balance with the Vibram soles.
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(05-05-2014 09:31 AM)BucFyre Wrote:  Are any of y'all runners? I just started doing 5ks last month.

I jogged/walked the Dirty Girl 5k here in Atlanta which is a 5k mud run/obstacle course in April and just completed a traditional 5k yesterday.

Is there any good way to do training on the treadmill for these events? I would love to run around my neighborhood but with the way people whip around the curves I'm afraid I'd become roadkill.

Additionally what's the best way to deal with soreness and stiffness the next day?

I ran competitively for a number of years. For the soreness, after a particularly hard workout (usually one with a longer distance than you usually run when stepping up mileage/time or challenging terrain/hills), take a quick ice bath. 10-12 minutes with a water temperature of 55 degrees F should do the trick. You'll be amazed how much less sore you feel. Reduces inflammation and helps you recover quicker.

Easiest way to do it (IMO) is a rubbermade garbage can filled to the correct height with cold water and some ice. That way, you can stand in it and try to avoid the dreaded dip that is the most annoying part of ice baths for a man (I think you probably get what I'm saying). Normal bath in the bathroom works just as well, it just might not be as comfortable haha.

Also, don't do it after every run. Only after longer/hillier runs and twice a week max. If you want to start stepping up and doing 10Ks, Half-marathons and maybe even a marathon one day, this trick is amazing during your training.
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(05-05-2014 02:40 PM)Smaug Wrote:  I run 4 miles every other day. Brooks is right on the shoes. Seriously.

I use a treadmill during the week (because in the morning before work is the only time I can commit to it, and it's still dark out), and run outside on the weekends. Stay good and hydrated.

Torch is right on the treadmill. It's not running. However it IS close enough to get you ready for a 5K (at least to me, and I'm running in 2 this weekend)

A good rule of thumb is over train for a 5K, under train for a half marathon.

My quick and dirty pre-race food of choice is a Snickers bar. Sugar, carbs, protein, the total package. 03-lol

Cannot recommend Brooks shoes enough. Work so well for me.

Ultimately though, running shoes are a lot like golf clubs. They are so different for every person (both brand and build). You have to try out many and see which ones work best for you to get the right fit and avoid injury.
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