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RE: T
(04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: and yet you can be forced against your will to put a weapon in your hand and kill people. Great fcking logic.
??????
Can't serve as a cop at 18..but..can be forced to kill in the military. Tell me what kind of logic supports that?
Just be fcking consistent....Whet is the problem here?
Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
Fair enough
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oklalittledixie
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RE: T
(04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:34 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: and yet you can be forced against your will to put a weapon in your hand and kill people. Great fcking logic.
??????
Can't serve as a cop at 18..but..can be forced to kill in the military. Tell me what kind of logic supports that?
Just be fcking consistent....Whet is the problem here?
Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
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RE: T
(04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:35 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: ??????
Can't serve as a cop at 18..but..can be forced to kill in the military. Tell me what kind of logic supports that?
Just be fcking consistent....Whet is the problem here?
Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
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oklalittledixie
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(04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: (04-25-2014 11:41 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Can't serve as a cop at 18..but..can be forced to kill in the military. Tell me what kind of logic supports that?
Just be fcking consistent....Whet is the problem here?
Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
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RE: T
(04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already
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oklalittledixie
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(04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
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(04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
so to be clear ==> 18-20 year olds are not consuming alcohol in large numbers........
personally I think you are removed from reality. Drinking in a bar is much safer than at a house party.
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RE: T
(04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:13 AM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-25-2014 09:03 PM)smn1256 Wrote: Fo, a soldier is pretty much led by a superior the entire way and told who to shoot at and when to stop. At cop pretty much acts on his own with no superior present, does whatever he wants, and the blue wall protects him. In a tense situation the soldier would probably be more disciplined than the cop...or at least that's how it seems these days with all these trigger happy policemen.
I submit the contradiction is glaring. I can be forced to kill people at age 18 under the flag of the state and yet I can not voluntarily be able to protect people under that same flag.
I fully agree that 18 is too young to be a cop. I think it is too young for either thing. Just be consistent. Decide what the age of consent should be and apply it consistently. That is all I ask.
You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
gotcha. Being a trained killer at 18 is fine as long as you don't drink.
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(04-26-2014 08:17 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
so to be clear ==> 18-20 year olds are not consuming alcohol in large numbers........
personally I think you are removed from reality. Drinking in a bar is much safer than at a house party.
There's your trademark shotty argumentative skills.
So Johnny, you are saying that making it legal for 18 year olds to buy alcohol will have no negative effect on how many 18 year olds die from alcohol related accidents?
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Fo Shizzle
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(04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 11:01 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: You just contradicted yourself. You agree that 18 is too young to be a cop but then want a consistent age across the board.
I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
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(04-26-2014 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 12:03 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I would prefer that the drinking age and the age for conscription be above 18...but....whatever that age is?...be the same. Is that clear enough for you?
Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
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(04-26-2014 08:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: (04-26-2014 07:19 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: Some things are ok for 18 year olds, some aren't. Is that clear enough for you. It has been proven that alcohol and 18 years olds don't mix.
like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
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oklalittledixie
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(04-26-2014 08:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:07 PM)john01992 Wrote: like 18 yr olds aren't drinking already 
They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
I was dealing with the real world when you were swimming around in your dad's sack.
It's simple logic pal. Legalization causes usage to increase exponentially.
If laws aren't stopping 18 year olds front drinking, then you should have no problem with the law.
How's that Cletus?
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(04-26-2014 08:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: They aren't buying it by themselves and they aren't being allowed into night clubs. Some of them may have fake id's but that is becoming much harder to accomplish and very small percentage.
Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
I was dealing with the real world when you were swimming around in your dad's sack.
It's simple logic pal. Legalization causes usage to increase exponentially.
If laws aren't stopping 18 year olds front drinking, then you should have no problem with the law.
How's that Cletus?
I stand by my assertion...you dont know schit.
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(04-26-2014 08:46 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: Sure they are. Just like when I bought booze at 16. Teens know where these places are today..just like decades ago.
This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
I was dealing with the real world when you were swimming around in your dad's sack.
It's simple logic pal. Legalization causes usage to increase exponentially.
If laws aren't stopping 18 year olds front drinking, then you should have no problem with the law.
How's that Cletus?
I stand by my assertion...you dont know schit.
I know a lot son.
So in conclusion: You really shouldn't worry about drinking laws because they don't stop 18 year olds from drinking. Therefore, there is no problem and you are upset over nothing.
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(04-26-2014 08:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:46 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:27 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: This thread is over. This kind of idiocy is just too tiring to argue against.
Stop making yourself look bad. I would consider you to have better reasoning skills than this. You are better than this.
You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
I was dealing with the real world when you were swimming around in your dad's sack.
It's simple logic pal. Legalization causes usage to increase exponentially.
If laws aren't stopping 18 year olds front drinking, then you should have no problem with the law.
How's that Cletus?
I stand by my assertion...you dont know schit.
I know a lot son.
So in conclusion: You really shouldn't worry about drinking laws because they don't stop 18 year olds from drinking. Therefore, there is no problem and you are upset over nothing.
Damn...Okie...You must at least over the age of 80. You sound just like my Dad...and he don't know schit about the real world either. Of course he has dementia. He gets a pass.
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oklalittledixie
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(04-26-2014 09:24 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:46 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-26-2014 08:36 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: You evidently don't know schit about the real world Okie.....I agree this thread is over.
I was dealing with the real world when you were swimming around in your dad's sack.
It's simple logic pal. Legalization causes usage to increase exponentially.
If laws aren't stopping 18 year olds front drinking, then you should have no problem with the law.
How's that Cletus?
I stand by my assertion...you dont know schit.
I know a lot son.
So in conclusion: You really shouldn't worry about drinking laws because they don't stop 18 year olds from drinking. Therefore, there is no problem and you are upset over nothing.
Damn...Okie...You must at least over the age of 80. You sound just like my Dad...and he don't know schit about the real world either. Of course he has dementia. He gets a pass.
You think 18 year old's are new to drinking? Hell, I had my first beer at 12 and my first joint at 13. I've been down many paths in life and I've forgot more about the real world than you've experienced.
The point is lowering the age makes no sense and is not safe for 18 year olds or society at large.
Secondly, in your mind 18 year olds are drinking without hindrance as it stands now, so the law means nothing. Therefore, there is no reason to mess with it.
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The drinking age is basically 18 in New Orleans and we do just fine. Old eniugh to vote, old enough for sex, old enough for war, old enough to drink.
Im also against forced bar closing times but thats another debate.
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(04-27-2014 12:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote: The drinking age is basically 18 in New Orleans and we do just fine. Old eniugh to vote, old enough for sex, old enough for war, old enough to drink.
Im also against forced bar closing times but thats another debate.
You are not doing fine. You are ranked 11th in the nation for DUI related deaths
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(04-27-2014 12:10 AM)oklalittledixie Wrote: (04-27-2014 12:05 AM)JDTulane Wrote: The drinking age is basically 18 in New Orleans and we do just fine. Old enough to vote, old enough for sex, old enough for war, old enough to drink.
Im also against forced bar closing times but thats another debate.
You are not doing fine. You are ranked 11th in the nation for DUI related deaths
For the amount we drink I'd say thats pretty good. And without a stat on how many 8f those are 18-20 I'd call it worthless in this debate.
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