Fitbud
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
I will refer you to this
These opening words of the First Amendment to the Constitution set forth a dual guarantee of religious liberty. Both the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause operate to protect the religious liberty and freedom of conscience of all Americans. Quoting Thomas Jefferson, the Supreme Court has stated that the Establishment Clause was intended to accomplish this end by erecting a "wall of separation between Church and State." Everson v. Board of Educ. of Ewing, 330 U.S. 1, 15-16 (1947).
It is one of the fundamental principles of the Supreme Court's Establishment Clause jurisprudence that the Constitution forbids not only state practices that "aid one religion . . . or prefer one religion over another," but also those practices that "aid all religions" and thus endorse or prefer religion over nonreligion. Everson, 330 U.S. at 15. See Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38, 53 (1985)("[T]he individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all"); see also County of Allegheny v. ACLU Greater Pittsburgh Chapter, 492 U.S. 573, 589-94, 598-602 (1989); Texas Monthly, Inc. v. Bullock, 489 U.S. 1, 17 (1989); Torcaso v.
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Paul M
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
Judges, same a school teachers, are capable of not understanding words they read.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-08-2014 01:29 PM)Fitbud Wrote: I will refer you to this
These opening words of the First Amendment to the Constitution set forth a dual guarantee of religious liberty. Both the Establishment Clause and the Free Exercise Clause operate to protect the religious liberty and freedom of conscience of all Americans. Quoting Thomas Jefferson, the Supreme Court has stated that the Establishment Clause was intended to accomplish this end by erecting a "wall of separation between Church and State." Everson v. Board of Educ. of Ewing, 330 U.S. 1, 15-16 (1947).
It is one of the fundamental principles of the Supreme Court's Establishment Clause jurisprudence that the Constitution forbids not only state practices that "aid one religion . . . or prefer one religion over another," but also those practices that "aid all religions" and thus endorse or prefer religion over nonreligion. Everson, 330 U.S. at 15. See Wallace v. Jaffree, 472 U.S. 38, 53 (1985)("[T]he individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all"); see also County of Allegheny v. ACLU Greater Pittsburgh Chapter, 492 U.S. 573, 589-94, 598-602 (1989); Texas Monthly, Inc. v. Bullock, 489 U.S. 1, 17 (1989); Torcaso v.
You'd have to read those cited cases in order to understand. There is no bright line rule that applies to what you seem to want to apply one to.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-08-2014 01:06 PM)AngryAphid Wrote: (04-08-2014 01:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 11:24 AM)Paul M Wrote: And all this time I thought the Constitution protected religion.
It gives you the right to practice a religion. It does not however give you the right to spread your religious activity in public schools.
My goodness, do you realize how many public schools issue Good Samaritan Awards?
Can’t get much more overtly Christian than the actual words of Christ.
I won an award in 6th grade from my public elementary school, it was based on grades, sports, and church service. Not kidding.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
Anyone else remember Easter Egg Hunts AT school? I was in 5th grade in the early 00's and remember having them...I think we may have even done one in 6th at middle school grade too (except it was like some extra credit map reading bs..no candy).
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
Messed me up. Always wondered how those rabbits laid those colored chicken eggs.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-08-2014 01:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 11:24 AM)Paul M Wrote: And all this time I thought the Constitution protected religion.
It gives you the right to practice a religion. It does not however give you the right to spread your religious activity in public schools.
What a moron.
There is nothing religious about hiding eggs.
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SuperFlyBCat
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 05:08 AM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote: (04-08-2014 01:00 PM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 11:24 AM)Paul M Wrote: And all this time I thought the Constitution protected religion.
It gives you the right to practice a religion. It does not however give you the right to spread your religious activity in public schools.
What a moron.
There is nothing religions about hiding eggs.
He isn't very smart at figuring things out. the egg hunt on the flyer isn't religious activity, nor is being on church property.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
What is so aggravating about Fitbud and so many like him that go into education, is that he has other peoples children captive for several hours everyday to screw-up.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 07:45 AM)Paul M Wrote: What is so aggravating about Fitbud and so many like him that go into education, is that he has other peoples children captive for several hours everyday to screw-up.
Exactly. And that's something they hold dear. That's why they hate alternate forms of education, b/c they know they'd be ousted from their comfy positions of influence.
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SuperFlyBCat
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 07:45 AM)Paul M Wrote: What is so aggravating about Fitbud and so many like him that go into education, is that he has other peoples children captive for several hours everyday to screw-up.
That is true, lots of beta males get into education, and they indoctrinate.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 07:50 AM)DrTorch Wrote: (04-09-2014 07:45 AM)Paul M Wrote: What is so aggravating about Fitbud and so many like him that go into education, is that he has other peoples children captive for several hours everyday to screw-up.
Exactly. And that's something they hold dear. That's why they hate alternate forms of education, b/c they know they'd be ousted from their comfy positions of influence.
It's distressing.
Many are a perfect example of that old phrase, "Cs get degrees."
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Fitbud
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
you are wrong, if the the event is held during non school hours. Religious groups can and do use public school facilities after hours. Local governments and election boards use church facilities for voting locations.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 11:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
you are wrong, if the the event is held during non school hours. Religious groups can and do use public school facilities after hours. Local governments and election boards use church facilities for voting locations.
That is correct. Churches can and do use schools for their religious gathering.
The violation however would take place when a flyer such as this one would be distributed during school hours to the students.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-09-2014 11:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
you are wrong, if the the event is held during non school hours. Religious groups can and do use public school facilities after hours. Local governments and election boards use church facilities for voting locations.
That is correct. Churches can and do use schools for their religious gathering.
The violation however would take place when a flyer such as this one would be distributed during school hours to the students.
it sounds like you just make up guidelines on the fly.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-09-2014 11:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
you are wrong, if the the event is held during non school hours. Religious groups can and do use public school facilities after hours. Local governments and election boards use church facilities for voting locations.
That is correct. Churches can and do use schools for their religious gathering.
The violation however would take place when a flyer such as this one would be distributed during school hours to the students.
You assume this flyer was distributed at a school. The OP flyer was an
Eggstravaganza (no religious ties whatsoever). You do not know how or when this flyer was distributed.
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RE: Muslim dad angry Easter egg hunt flyer distributed at public school
(04-09-2014 11:18 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (04-09-2014 11:12 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-09-2014 11:02 AM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote: (04-09-2014 10:51 AM)Fitbud Wrote: (04-08-2014 03:56 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:
Thank you for posting this.
This is a wonderful example of a flyer that would be 100% against the Constitution and state and school policies for public schools.
you are wrong, if the the event is held during non school hours. Religious groups can and do use public school facilities after hours. Local governments and election boards use church facilities for voting locations.
That is correct. Churches can and do use schools for their religious gathering.
The violation however would take place when a flyer such as this one would be distributed during school hours to the students.
You assume this flyer was distributed at a school. The OP flyer was an
Eggstravaganza (no religious ties whatsoever). You do not know how or when this flyer was distributed.
I think you need to go back and read the article.
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