(04-10-2014 04:00 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are struggling.

I am struggling? I was challenged to provide a Supreme Court case that supported my statement and I delivered. I even have someone who reluctantly admitted that I was right.

You my friend are the one who is struggling.

No you didn't because even nativity scenes have been upheld. You're struggling.

Interesting that you would say that because there is another Supreme Court case that would prove you wrong.

Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980)
Court finds posting of the Ten Commandments in schools unconstitutional.

You also might find it interesting to note that in that case, the Supreme Court referred to Lemon v. Kartzman.

Your trolling isn't even all that clever.

Really? Do I have to explain to you that if the ten commandments cannot be displayed in school then neither can a nativity scene.

(04-10-2014 04:14 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:00 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:50 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:12 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I am struggling? I was challenged to provide a Supreme Court case that supported my statement and I delivered. I even have someone who reluctantly admitted that I was right.

You my friend are the one who is struggling.

No you didn't because even nativity scenes have been upheld. You're struggling.

Interesting that you would say that because there is another Supreme Court case that would prove you wrong.

Stone v. Graham, 449 U.S. 39 (1980)
Court finds posting of the Ten Commandments in schools unconstitutional.

You also might find it interesting to note that in that case, the Supreme Court referred to Lemon v. Kartzman.

Your trolling isn't even all that clever.

Really? Do I have to explain to you that if the ten commandments cannot be displayed in school then neither can a nativity scene.

LOL wow.

(04-10-2014 02:16 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  It's like reading the rambling a of a jailhouse lawyer. Ouch!

As an attorney, I nearly fell out of my chair laughing at that one!!

(04-10-2014 04:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Just for the record, I think the distribution of this flyer at a public school was inappropriate.

I agree.

Frankly, I'm surprised that not more people would see that right off the bat.

I'm done with this thread. And as for this subject. "Fit, no eggs for you".

(04-10-2014 03:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:33 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  It doesn't matter. If one of their functions is to advance religion, then a government institution would be violating rule #2 by selling raffle tickets.

You are struggling.

I am struggling? I was challenged to provide a Supreme Court case that supported my statement and I delivered. I even have someone who reluctantly admitted that I was right.

You my friend are the one who is struggling.

selling raffle tickets would not fall under this decision. No taxpayer money is being used.
the government action must have a secular purpose
There is no government action (such as funding public schools) here.
We are talking about a school employee selling raffle tickets.

The finding of the court is Is it constitutional for the state to provide financial assistance to religious schools for the cost of teaching secular subjects.
However, relative to the selling and buying of raffle tickets, there are no state funds being used, no state assistance.

Teachers are paid by taxpayers. If they are selling raffle tickets for their church during school hours, that would be an obvious violation.

It isn't a state action. It is a voluntary action by individuals. I asked you to post a court decision that says selling raffle tickets is unconstitutional, you have failed. You lost this one and you lost and the non religious flyer.

I know Cops and Firemen who sell raffle tickets inside their place of employment on the job.

(04-10-2014 04:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Just for the record, I think the distribution of this flyer at a public school was inappropriate.

I agree.

Frankly, I'm surprised that not more people would see that right off the bat.

which flyer Fitbud, post the flyer you reference. Bait and switch won't work here.

(04-10-2014 04:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:49 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You are struggling.

I am struggling? I was challenged to provide a Supreme Court case that supported my statement and I delivered. I even have someone who reluctantly admitted that I was right.

You my friend are the one who is struggling.

selling raffle tickets would not fall under this decision. No taxpayer money is being used.
the government action must have a secular purpose
There is no government action (such as funding public schools) here.
We are talking about a school employee selling raffle tickets.

The finding of the court is Is it constitutional for the state to provide financial assistance to religious schools for the cost of teaching secular subjects.
However, relative to the selling and buying of raffle tickets, there are no state funds being used, no state assistance.

Teachers are paid by taxpayers. If they are selling raffle tickets for their church during school hours, that would be an obvious violation.

It isn't a state action. It is a voluntary action by individuals. I asked you to post a court decision that says selling raffle tickets is unconstitutional, you have failed. You lost this one and you lost and the non religious flyer.

I know Cops and Firemen who sell raffle tickets inside their place of employment on the job.

(04-10-2014 04:31 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:29 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 03:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:56 PM)SuperFlyBCat Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 02:52 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I am struggling? I was challenged to provide a Supreme Court case that supported my statement and I delivered. I even have someone who reluctantly admitted that I was right.

You my friend are the one who is struggling.

selling raffle tickets would not fall under this decision. No taxpayer money is being used.
the government action must have a secular purpose
There is no government action (such as funding public schools) here.
We are talking about a school employee selling raffle tickets.

The finding of the court is Is it constitutional for the state to provide financial assistance to religious schools for the cost of teaching secular subjects.
However, relative to the selling and buying of raffle tickets, there are no state funds being used, no state assistance.

Teachers are paid by taxpayers. If they are selling raffle tickets for their church during school hours, that would be an obvious violation.

It isn't a state action. It is a voluntary action by individuals. I asked you to post a court decision that says selling raffle tickets is unconstitutional, you have failed. You lost this one and you lost and the non religious flyer.

I know Cops and Firemen who sell raffle tickets inside their place of employment on the job.

You are a one sentence pony, no critical thought. Your court case does not apply. Why can't you post the court decision that does not allow selling church raffle tickets, you said you would.

I'm still waiting on something that remotely indicates that this flyer was unconstitutional.

(04-10-2014 04:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Just for the record, I think the distribution of this flyer at a public school was inappropriate.

I agree.

Frankly, I'm surprised that not more people would see that right off the bat.

Most people think you are being a bit silly crying and whining about an egg hunt. Kids love em. Even the guy originally complaining wasn't saying what you are saying. You have taken a very small thing and blown it up larger than it needs to be.

(04-10-2014 04:39 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I'm still waiting on something that remotely indicates that this flyer was unconstitutional.

The eggstravaganza flyer contains no religious speech period. Governments all over the USA sponsor, allow, and advertise "Easter" Egg hunts all over the USA on Government property. Fitbid's stupid posts on how a tax payer funded private school teacher salaries .........has nothing to do with the individual and voluntary behavior of a public employee is earth shattering awful. Frankly, he isn't Fit to teach in a public school.

(04-10-2014 04:49 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Just for the record, I think the distribution of this flyer at a public school was inappropriate.

I agree.

Frankly, I'm surprised that not more people would see that right off the bat.

Most people think you are being a bit silly crying and whining about an egg hunt. Kids love em. Even the guy originally complaining wasn't saying what you are saying. You have taken a very small thing and blown it up larger than it needs to be.

But I never complained about it. All I ever said was that I thought the guy had a case against the school.

If you consider that complaining then sheeeeesshhhhhhh

(04-10-2014 05:11 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:49 PM)pharaoh0 Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:28 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 04:06 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  Just for the record, I think the distribution of this flyer at a public school was inappropriate.

I agree.

Frankly, I'm surprised that not more people would see that right off the bat.

Most people think you are being a bit silly crying and whining about an egg hunt. Kids love em. Even the guy originally complaining wasn't saying what you are saying. You have taken a very small thing and blown it up larger than it needs to be.

But I never complained about it. All I ever said was that I thought the guy had a case against the school.

If you consider that complaining then sheeeeesshhhhhhh

Liar Lib, look at your posts. You lost every argument.

Easter egg hunt has as much to do with the Christian observance of Easter as Santa Clause does for Christmas... ZERO. Hard for a secondary religion to attack a secular observance.

(04-10-2014 08:21 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Easter egg hunt has as much to do with the Christian observance of Easter as Santa Clause does for Christmas... ZERO. Hard for a secondary religion to attack a secular observance.

It is disappointing that people do not see the significance of Easter egg hunts and Santa Claus in Christian tradition.

This country really has lost it's way.

It's really disappointing that people confuse Santa and a bunny with Christ.

(04-11-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 08:21 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Easter egg hunt has as much to do with the Christian observance of Easter as Santa Clause does for Christmas... ZERO. Hard for a secondary religion to attack a secular observance.

It is disappointing that people do not see the significance of Easter egg hunts and Santa Claus in Christian tradition.

This country really has lost it's way.

Are not religious speech, neither is a christmas tree, which is why you seem them on public places all over the USA.

(04-11-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 08:21 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Easter egg hunt has as much to do with the Christian observance of Easter as Santa Clause does for Christmas... ZERO. Hard for a secondary religion to attack a secular observance.

It is disappointing that people do not see the significance of Easter egg hunts and Santa Claus in Christian tradition.

This country really has lost it's way.

You are one screwed up guy.

(04-11-2014 01:14 PM)ericsrevenge76 Wrote:  

(04-11-2014 11:57 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(04-10-2014 08:21 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  Easter egg hunt has as much to do with the Christian observance of Easter as Santa Clause does for Christmas... ZERO. Hard for a secondary religion to attack a secular observance.

It is disappointing that people do not see the significance of Easter egg hunts and Santa Claus in Christian tradition.

This country really has lost it's way.

You are one screwed up guy.

Yes. Yes he is.