FloridaJag. I like you, I really do. We both are Floridians who love mid major football. I always try to support your ideas when people belittle them. But bud, c'mon now. I just don't believe VCU will find it feasible to go for FBS football, and you have to agree with that. IF they get football, there would already be in talks by now to get funding for a stadium. So the chances that they would get football in time for all of this realignment mess to still be going on, is zero to none.
(04-03-2014 05:53 PM)ChooChoo Wrote: http://www.floridatechsports.com/football/
Look out FIU! Here comes another set of Panthers to the Florida Panther party. Maybe they should be on Jags radar...
LOLOL FlTech
In all honesty, FGCU really would be the best add for the SBC, only if they were further exploring football. UWF is a solid option, but they're way to close to USA. That leaves Jacksonville, no thank you, and UNF if they want to field a team (which I'm shocked they haven't started looking at).
FWIW, FloridaJag. I've created all the schools in the state of Florida on NCAA teambuilder. Yes even Florida Tech. I have a feeling you'd be one of the few people that'd appreciate that.
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
We'd be better off adding VMI, at least they have football. The best options for a travel partner for App will come from Virginia though.
Or better yet ETSU, The Citadel, or Coastal.
Really the "Bucs" could go back to their mini dome instead of building on a hillside or in a flood plain and we'd have an ugly dome school on either side of the conference.
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(This post was last modified: 05-21-2014 08:59 AM by DawggoneEagle.)
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
Sure. I'm down with that.
How about Grambling while we are at it. Great travel partners for the Louisiana schools, great fan base, and FANTASTIC facilities. Gets the coveted Ruston metro with better facilities than LTU.
(05-21-2014 06:00 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote: Or better yet ETSU, The Citadel, or Coastal.
Really the "Bucs" could go back to their mini dome instead of building or a hillside or in a flood plain and we'd have an ugly dome school on either side of the conference.
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
We'd be better off adding VMI, at least they have football. The best options for a travel partner for App will come from Virginia though.
VMI and The Citidel are both great schools, but small potatoes. I can not see either one going FBS in this lifetime.
(04-03-2014 01:06 PM)GATA Wrote: If you think they're leaving their spot in the A-10 for the SBC I need some of what you have.
I got plenty. This is all about football. Football drives the world.
Garbage In, Garbage Out.
Football does not drive the world. Football drives power conference realignment, but power conference realignment is not the whole world.
Its a different calculus for VCU under the present landscape than it is for a school that already plays football. VCU gets more bang for the buck from being a BBall-first school playing in the A10 than it would by adding football and joining the Sunbelt.
If it already had fully funded scholarship FCS football and was looking at the incremental cost of moving up, that would be one thing. But adding football from scratch is an expansive proposition, with less than 50:50 chance that it will pay off, overall.
(05-21-2014 06:00 AM)DawggoneEagle Wrote: Really the "Bucs" could go back to their mini dome instead of building on a hillside or in a flood plain and we'd have an ugly dome school on either side of the conference.
Talk about ugly and uglier ... at least the Idaho aircraft hanger was refitted to bring in natural light.
(This post was last modified: 05-21-2014 10:19 AM by BruceMcF.)
Well hell...if we are going to discuss Liberty on every thread the why not VCU. VCU basketball >>> Liberty basketball.
Yes, and you are off your medication if you really think that VCU would leave one of the best basketball conferences in the country to move to the SBC.
Has anyone seen how much those A-10 schools make from their basketball NCAA shares and their TV deal? Hint - its a lot. And the A-10 doesn't share equally either. You divide the money up based upon how well you perform (another of the A-10 policies that really work in getting the basketball product to work well). So for a school like VCU, their A-10 membership is really lucrative. Their conference tournament is held in front of thousands and thousands of fans (even though it really is at a neutral site).
Since 2008, the A-10 has put TWELVE of its teams in the big dance. 12. They've run up 10 NCAA tournament wins in the last two years. 11 bids in the last two years. One of the teams not included in that list was a participant in the 2006 Final Four. They run from strength to strength. Next year, most of the A-10 schools are gonna be stacked. Again. A usual also ran, GW, won 25 games starting 4 sophomores. The last place team in the league beat LSU. In Baton Rouge. There are exactly two easy outs in that league (Fordham and Duquesne). The sixth place team in the league went to the Elite 8. The conference has incredible depth. Its a raucous and exciting loop. The tournament is always a monster. "Okay, we're gonna play UMass, then if we beat them we get VCU, and then maybe St Louis or Dayton" Most of the schools have been in the conference a while too. Which helps (sure VCU, Davidson, and Mason are newbies, but they fit very well in the league).
UMass has spent tens of millions of dollars on moving their FBS program to the MAC. But when presented with a choice of leaving the A-10 for a pretty good MAC conference to preserve their football participation in the league, they said....Nope. We'll try life as a FBS independent. I want you to think about this. A-10 basketball is more lucrative than MAC football (and they had 5 bowl bids last year and have had 4 teams crack the top 25 in football in the last 2 years).
A low performing A-10 school, LaSalle, will probably earn more from their A-10 membership than any CUSA school will for their football and basketball.
UNCC left the A-10 because of football dreams and the fact that they could never compete in that conference. Temple, Xavier, and Butler left for an even more lucrative deal. But the A-10 just keeps backfilling with best of the best, because they are the best destination for basketball only besides a Big East with which they are competitive. If the NCAA ever splits apart and the AQ schools move to a new organization, the A-10 and the Big East will be going with the SEC, ACC, etc.
VCU is rolling in exposure and money. They have 5 conference mates within a 3 hour drive of the school. Their games sell out. Their rivals games sell out. They have almost every game televised (and not on the internet). They sent 5000 to Brooklyn for the Conference Tourney. They don't need to worry about Title IX They aren't going anywhere.
I couldn't agree more...there's nothing wrong with being known for BASKETBALL...the Atlantic 10 is a GREAT hoops conference.
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
(04-03-2014 01:02 PM)FloridaJag Wrote: We missed out on getting ODU and UNCC as a travel partner for App State. Therefore, we should invite VCU and have it add football.
The already have a great rivalry with ODU and have a good Basketball program.
East Football 2016
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
West Football 2016
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Lafayette
Louisianna Monroe
New Mexico
Texas State
East Football 2018
App State
Georgia State
Georgia Southern
South Alabama
Troy Virginia Commonwealth
Louisianna Lafayette
West Football 2018
Arkansas State
Idaho
Louisianna Monroe Missouri State
New Mexico Texas Arlington
Texas State
Nope. You just lack an imagination and critical thinking skills so you result to name calling. I got the same comment when I mentioned Ga State as a potential new member. Grow up. Grow a pair. If you are scared just say you are scared of VCU.
(This post was last modified: 05-23-2014 12:08 PM by FloridaJag.)