(02-14-2014 12:45 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:26 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 11:48 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

The state of Kentucky officially recognizes gay marriages, will start growing hemp, and has a number of measures to legalize medical marijuana.

It's not Kentucky forcing gay marriage and all states have a "number of measures" to legalize medical marijuana.

I know it was a activist judge appointed by Mitch Mcconnel that made the ruling. Still not sure why so many are on a crusade to deny people civil rights. Sure it is gross but who am I to say what other people do with themselves. And I thought separation of church and state was a done deal..

I don't care what they do to themselves either, but they have civil unions, why the sudden push and cry for marriage?

(02-14-2014 12:45 PM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:26 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 11:48 AM)WPDAWG08 Wrote:  http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/k...story.html

The state of Kentucky officially recognizes gay marriages, will start growing hemp, and has a number of measures to legalize medical marijuana.

It's not Kentucky forcing gay marriage and all states have a "number of measures" to legalize medical marijuana.

I know it was a activist judge appointed by Mitch Mcconnel that made the ruling. Still not sure why so many are on a crusade to deny people civil rights. Sure it is gross but who am I to say what other people do with themselves. And I thought separation of church and state was a done deal..

Absolutely ridiculous. This is a govt power grab which should have you livid.

(02-14-2014 12:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:39 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Some states just insist to live in the past.

I know. I feel the same way every time I hear about slavery or the injustice to Indians.

Funny you should mention that. If it wasn't for the government forcing them to do it, we may still have those injustices.

And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

zealous*

(02-14-2014 01:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:39 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Some states just insist to live in the past.

I know. I feel the same way every time I hear about slavery or the injustice to Indians.

Funny you should mention that. If it wasn't for the government forcing them to do it, we may still have those injustices.

And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

(02-14-2014 01:47 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote:  zealous*

Good eye

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:39 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Some states just insist to live in the past.

I know. I feel the same way every time I hear about slavery or the injustice to Indians.

Funny you should mention that. If it wasn't for the government forcing them to do it, we may still have those injustices.

And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:39 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  I know. I feel the same way every time I hear about slavery or the injustice to Indians.

Funny you should mention that. If it wasn't for the government forcing them to do it, we may still have those injustices.

And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Mark my words this will be no diffrent than segregation of the 60s in fifty years. That being said I think it is gross and unatural. But my opinion is not what is right.

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 12:48 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Funny you should mention that. If it wasn't for the government forcing them to do it, we may still have those injustices.

And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:45 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  And oddly enough, up until the government put an end to it they fully allowed it. Most of the early presidents had slaves.

Do you think we would still have slaves today if government hadn't stepped in and stopped it? Serious question.

No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

(02-14-2014 05:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

Slavery didn't used to be about race. Throughout history, different peoples have enslaved different people regardless of race.

United States history however is unique in that they made slaves of only black people.

That is where the white American is at fault. They made slavery about race.

(02-14-2014 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

Slavery didn't used to be about race. Throughout history, different peoples have enslaved different people regardless of race.

United States history however is unique in that they made slaves of only black people.

That is where the white American is at fault. They made slavery about race.

Silly goose, the Egyptians made slavery about race.

(02-14-2014 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

Slavery didn't used to be about race. Throughout history, different peoples have enslaved different people regardless of race.

United States history however is unique in that they made slaves of only black people.

That is where the white American is at fault. They made slavery about race.

Dude, I'm part of white America. I didn't own any slaves, my ancestors didn't own any slaves, shoot, none of my ancestors were even in this country when slavery was legal. How is any part of slavery my fault and why should I feel guilty about it? Do you still hold a grudge against the Japs for bombing us?

You're trying to make me ashamed over something no one in my family had anything to do with.

This country made a mistake and fixed it. By throwing past mistakes in my face you are beginning to sound like my wife.

(02-14-2014 05:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

Slavery didn't used to be about race. Throughout history, different peoples have enslaved different people regardless of race.

United States history however is unique in that they made slaves of only black people.

That is where the white American is at fault. They made slavery about race.

Dude, I'm part of white America. I didn't own any slaves, my ancestors didn't own any slaves, shoot, none of my ancestors were even in this country when slavery was legal. How is any part of slavery my fault and why should I feel guilty about it? Do you still hold a grudge against the Japs for bombing us?

You're trying to make me ashamed over something no one in my family had anything to do with.

This country made a mistake and fixed it. By throwing past mistakes in my face you are beginning to sound like my wife.

I'm not talking about you. Obviously no one living today owned slaves. It is undeniable however that our country is still feeling the effects of slavery. Until all races in this country are truly equal, we are always going to have to deal with it.

(02-14-2014 11:54 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  "You know zealot social conservationism is dying out the world has officially gone to shiit when.."


Agreed

"The sky is falling! The world is trying to progress past my medieval views on sex and religion!"

This about right?

(02-14-2014 12:32 PM)AngryAphid Wrote:  Zealot social conservationism died off when Adam and Eve first rejected it.

You either need to read the book of genesis, or you need to stop watching so much tv.

(02-16-2014 11:54 AM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:54 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:34 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:29 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

You mean they're totally innocent? There's enough blame for everyone in this, including the people who sold them.

Slavery didn't used to be about race. Throughout history, different peoples have enslaved different people regardless of race.

United States history however is unique in that they made slaves of only black people.

That is where the white American is at fault. They made slavery about race.

Dude, I'm part of white America. I didn't own any slaves, my ancestors didn't own any slaves, shoot, none of my ancestors were even in this country when slavery was legal. How is any part of slavery my fault and why should I feel guilty about it? Do you still hold a grudge against the Japs for bombing us?

You're trying to make me ashamed over something no one in my family had anything to do with.

This country made a mistake and fixed it. By throwing past mistakes in my face you are beginning to sound like my wife.

I'm not talking about you. Obviously no one living today owned slaves. It is undeniable however that our country is still feeling the effects of slavery. Until all races in this country are truly equal, we are always going to have to deal with it.

WTF does truly equal mean to you.




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(02-14-2014 05:27 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 05:11 PM)smn1256 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 03:58 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:57 PM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(02-14-2014 01:53 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  No. I think if the Union had lost, the South would have kept slavery at least until the mid 20th century, and then they would have had segregation until the 80's and then they would have finally buckled under the pressure like South Africa.

Actually we'd have state rights...

Yes and the states in the Confederate States of America all wanted to preserve the institution of slavery.

Well, if black people hadn't been out there selling other black people we never woulda had slavery.

So then it's the black man's fault?

Wow.

Not entirely. But blacks can't wash their hands entirely from the matter. It's historical fact that blacks sold blacks back in the day. We can't just simply choose to ignore certain historical time periods.