(02-04-2014 07:32 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I'm conservative and generally believe government should stay the heck out of business but that said this girl isn't baking for a couple of times a year bake sale.

This girl (and likely with her parents help) is running a business from their home selling a food product and making regular income.

If she was just occasionally baking cupcakes and getting a little cash sporadically that's one thing but she's marketing her services and running a business.

She should be subject to the same rules that any bakery is subject to including paying taxes and SS, getting licensed and inspected, etc.

Do you really want to eat cupcakes from an uninspected kitchen having no idea what kind of cleanliness is involved in the prep...she's 11...how sanitary is her kitchen and preparation?
washed hands? how about some fecal material or snot in that tasty cupcake?
cross contamination with meat? ecoli anyone?
bakeware cleaned after each use?

Anyone that has ever worked in a food establishment for any period of time will tell you that they are no way as clean as their kitchen at home. I remember vividly witnessing some simply filthy conditions in the kitchen and food prep areas of the places I worked as a teen and in college. Much of it just being because of sheer volume of food being produced and served. It is damn hard to keep these places sanitary all day long. I'd take this kids food any day for cleanliness over any restaurant. Something tells me Mom was watching very closely what was going on in the kitchen.

(02-04-2014 09:15 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 07:32 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I'm conservative and generally believe government should stay the heck out of business but that said this girl isn't baking for a couple of times a year bake sale.

This girl (and likely with her parents help) is running a business from their home selling a food product and making regular income.

If she was just occasionally baking cupcakes and getting a little cash sporadically that's one thing but she's marketing her services and running a business.

She should be subject to the same rules that any bakery is subject to including paying taxes and SS, getting licensed and inspected, etc.

Do you really want to eat cupcakes from an uninspected kitchen having no idea what kind of cleanliness is involved in the prep...she's 11...how sanitary is her kitchen and preparation?
washed hands? how about some fecal material or snot in that tasty cupcake?
cross contamination with meat? ecoli anyone?
bakeware cleaned after each use?

Anyone that has ever worked in a food establishment for any period of time will tell you that they are no way as clean as their kitchen at home. I remember vividly witnessing some simply filthy conditions in the kitchen and food prep areas of the places I worked as a teen and in college. Much of it just being because of sheer volume of food being produced and served. It is damn hard to keep these places sanitary all day long. I'd take this kids food any day for cleanliness over any restaurant. Something tells me Mom was watching very closely what was going on in the kitchen.

You forgot to mention that if there is a cook who doesn't like the person whose food he's making (think: Jesse Jackson) he'll spit in it.

(02-04-2014 09:15 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote:  

(02-04-2014 07:32 PM)mptnstr@44 Wrote:  I'm conservative and generally believe government should stay the heck out of business but that said this girl isn't baking for a couple of times a year bake sale.

This girl (and likely with her parents help) is running a business from their home selling a food product and making regular income.

If she was just occasionally baking cupcakes and getting a little cash sporadically that's one thing but she's marketing her services and running a business.

She should be subject to the same rules that any bakery is subject to including paying taxes and SS, getting licensed and inspected, etc.

Do you really want to eat cupcakes from an uninspected kitchen having no idea what kind of cleanliness is involved in the prep...she's 11...how sanitary is her kitchen and preparation?
washed hands? how about some fecal material or snot in that tasty cupcake?
cross contamination with meat? ecoli anyone?
bakeware cleaned after each use?

Anyone that has ever worked in a food establishment for any period of time will tell you that they are no way as clean as their kitchen at home. I remember vividly witnessing some simply filthy conditions in the kitchen and food prep areas of the places I worked as a teen and in college. Much of it just being because of sheer volume of food being produced and served. It is damn hard to keep these places sanitary all day long. I'd take this kids food any day for cleanliness over any restaurant. Something tells me Mom was watching very closely what was going on in the kitchen.

Maybe her kitchen is cleaner. Maybe not. Who knows?
It really doesn't matter to the point about whether they were running a business...

The kid and the mom were running a business out of their home and should be subject to the same rules and regulations as any bakery — taxes, SS, inspections, etc. There may also be zoning laws for running a business in her neighborhood too. She was marketing her services, taking orders and charging. This was not a kid making cookies for an occasional bake sale.