(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

Absolutely. Who was it here that created 4kingz ?

(01-25-2014 09:38 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 08:18 AM)dfwtxtiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 11:19 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 10:33 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 10:31 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  I think his defense has been much better as of late.

He is getting better and better as the season progresses.

I think that Austin's defense has gotten much better as well

It really has

I agree. He appears more confident and a little more agressive. He will be a good player by March. I just wish CJP would let him play through his mistakes, instead of benching him.
As for Dixon, I feel he is not as reckless as of late. The team feeds off of each other, and when he gets reckless, it changes the dynamics. And they start the streetball type playing.

Good observations.. Dixon's recent progress is a result of him playing a little more within the system, but I still cringe when he and Joe are on the floor together.

4 seniors with a lot of experience but only Joe and Chris has played together longer within the system. Geron came last year and Dixon this year, so there is a natural adjustment to working in the flow of what the team is all about. Dixon may be a pleasant surprise come March compare to his earlier problems

(01-25-2014 10:10 AM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:38 AM)TigerBo Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 08:18 AM)dfwtxtiger Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 11:19 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 10:33 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  I think that Austin's defense has gotten much better as well

It really has

I agree. He appears more confident and a little more agressive. He will be a good player by March. I just wish CJP would let him play through his mistakes, instead of benching him.
As for Dixon, I feel he is not as reckless as of late. The team feeds off of each other, and when he gets reckless, it changes the dynamics. And they start the streetball type playing.

Good observations.. Dixon's recent progress is a result of him playing a little more within the system, but I still cringe when he and Joe are on the floor together.

4 seniors with a lot of experience but only Joe and Chris has played together longer within the system. Geron came last year and Dixon this year, so there is a natural adjustment to working in the flow of what the team is all about. Dixon may be a pleasant surprise come March compare to his earlier problems

I hope so, but the Tigers will only go as far as a team, not single players looking to rack up points with bad 3 pointers when they could feed inside the paint.

(01-24-2014 10:31 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:20 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:54 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  He was the Big 12 sixth man of the year, and on the Big 12 all defense first team. He hasn't been what I would call elite defensively for us, but he is good.

Its because of the new rules. If he and geron were under the old rules then their aggressive style defense would benefit them even more. The new rules are meant to help the offensive player not the defensive player

I think his defense has been much better as of late.

He is getting better and better as the season progresses.

I agree that he is settling into the team and playing better.

It's a shame that the new rules started this year. Can you imagine how much better our defense would be if they were still allowing the guards to play physical defense?

I wish our guards would take better advantage of the new rules while on offense. It seems like someone with Jackson's quickness and skills could draw a foul on opposing guards on almost any possession.

How many of Crawford's relatives are in this thread?

(01-25-2014 10:09 AM)MGR Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

Absolutely. Who was it here that created 4kingz ?

The 4kingz, but I don't think they post much.

These guys all grew up playing defense one way and the NCAA has now changed things. I'm not sure that expecting players to adapt in half a season is reasonable, for us or any other team.

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

I'm going to have to agree with you about that. And, I'm guilty of it myself.

Had such fine visions of a 10 deep lineup pressing like mad every second of the game.

(01-25-2014 10:39 AM)papajohn Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 10:31 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:20 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:54 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  He was the Big 12 sixth man of the year, and on the Big 12 all defense first team. He hasn't been what I would call elite defensively for us, but he is good.

Its because of the new rules. If he and geron were under the old rules then their aggressive style defense would benefit them even more. The new rules are meant to help the offensive player not the defensive player

I think his defense has been much better as of late.

He is getting better and better as the season progresses.

I agree that he is settling into the team and playing better.

It's a shame that the new rules started this year. Can you imagine how much better our defense would be if they were still allowing the guards to play physical defense?

I wish our guards would take better advantage of the new rules while on offense. It seems like someone with Jackson's quickness and skills could draw a foul on opposing guards on almost any possession.

Louisville has made a killing doing just that---even before the rule change.

He [and Crawford] should study the heck out of their game films.

(01-25-2014 11:08 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  These guys all grew up playing defense one way and the NCAA has now changed things. I'm not sure that expecting players to adapt in half a season is reasonable, for us or any other team.

Adjust and learn. Every team has to adjust with the new rules. Doesn't mean they are allowing teams to shoot almost 44%. To be fair, a lot of those shots aren't being scored on our players. We give up several wide open shots a game. (Not 4-5, some games have been 20). We gotta switch properly and play with more intensity down on the defensive end. Not a few plays a game, the entire game.

If we start playing better defensively this team is going far and could even win the whole thing.

For the record anyone know our 3 point % the last 3 games? I believe that is improving a bit and Dixon is closing in on 39%. He makes mistakes but overall I am very happy we got him. As pointed out earlier he has helped us win us some tough games this season.

(01-25-2014 11:13 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

I'm going to have to agree with you about that. And, I'm guilty of it myself.

Had such fine visions of a 10 deep lineup pressing like mad every second of the game.

Still.... That's not even close to an ungodly expectation. Ungodly expectations are to go undefeated, blow every team out by 40, and have 8 players drafted in the top 10.

(01-24-2014 10:31 PM)Jedi Master Sipho-Dyas Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 09:20 PM)BigTigerMike Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:54 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  He was the Big 12 sixth man of the year, and on the Big 12 all defense first team. He hasn't been what I would call elite defensively for us, but he is good.

Its because of the new rules. If he and geron were under the old rules then their aggressive style defense would benefit them even more. The new rules are meant to help the offensive player not the defensive player

I think his defense has been much better as of late.

He is getting better and better as the season progresses.

Totally agree with this. He keeps his man from blowing past him like some of our other guards and pays the price with fouls but we have about 6 wings/guards.

(01-25-2014 11:22 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:08 AM)TigerBill Wrote:  These guys all grew up playing defense one way and the NCAA has now changed things. I'm not sure that expecting players to adapt in half a season is reasonable, for us or any other team.

Adjust and learn. Every team has to adjust with the new rules. Doesn't mean they are allowing teams to shoot almost 44%. To be fair, a lot of those shots aren't being scored on our players. We give up several wide open shots a game. (Not 4-5, some games have been 20). We gotta switch properly and play with more intensity down on the defensive end. Not a few plays a game, the entire game.

If we start playing better defensively this team is going far and could even win the whole thing.

For the record anyone know our 3 point % the last 3 games? I believe that is improving a bit and Dixon is closing in on 39%. He makes mistakes but overall I am very happy we got him. As pointed out earlier he has helped us win us some tough games this season.

Your point is well made, all teams are having to adjust. However, it seems that teams that are guard-reliant, such as ours, UConn, UL, etc., have had some unexpected losses. This may be part of the learning curve. Certainly when 4 of the 5 players you have on the floor are guards and they have not yet adapted it can cause problems, such as the notorious post-Nichols segment against UConn. It's not an excuse, just an observation.

(01-24-2014 09:06 PM)dgold38 Wrote:  

(01-24-2014 08:54 PM)TigerFan386 Wrote:  He was the Big 12 sixth man of the year, and on the Big 12 all defense first team. He hasn't been what I would call elite defensively for us, but he is good.

He is pretty dam good on D, very good on ball D, he does seem to have lost a little speed since Missouri.

Have you watched a game? His defense is terrible.

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

Ungodly? After hearing that he was an all conference defensive player I guess I just expected more. I'm not saying that he's bad at D, but I just haven't seen anything special. I don't consider him an elite defender from what I've seen this year.

Again, I like him as a player. I just don't see him as a lock down defender.

(01-25-2014 11:24 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:13 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

I'm going to have to agree with you about that. And, I'm guilty of it myself.

Had such fine visions of a 10 deep lineup pressing like mad every second of the game.

Still.... That's not even close to an ungodly expectation. Ungodly expectations are to go undefeated, blow every team out by 40, and have 8 players drafted in the top 10.

I heard from a poster that will remain nameless, that he would step on the court for us this season and automatically be our best player.

There will be goobers that do this every season, but it's wise to wait til you see a new player actually play a few D1 games before you start to formulate an opinion on how they'll do for the season.

(01-25-2014 07:12 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

Ungodly? After hearing that he was an all conference defensive player I guess I just expected more. I'm not saying that he's bad at D, but I just haven't seen anything special. I don't consider him an elite defender from what I've seen this year.

Again, I like him as a player. I just don't see him as a lock down defender.

Dixon has definitely helped this team win some games, so while his defense hasn't been stellar and sometimes he tries to do too much, he is an important piece to this teams goals

(01-25-2014 07:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:24 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:13 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

I'm going to have to agree with you about that. And, I'm guilty of it myself.

Had such fine visions of a 10 deep lineup pressing like mad every second of the game.

Still.... That's not even close to an ungodly expectation. Ungodly expectations are to go undefeated, blow every team out by 40, and have 8 players drafted in the top 10.

I heard from a poster that will remain nameless, that he would step on the court for us this season and automatically be our best player.

There will be goobers that do this every season, but it's wise to wait til you see a new player actually play a few D1 games before you start to formulate an opinion on how they'll do for the season.

Yes, and we heard it from the media that he would be our best guard and so on. Expectations are expectations. Some may expect little and some are going to expect a lot. No one is going to be the same.

If we all expected him to completely 100% suck then we'd all be happy right now. If we all expected him to be the best player in college basketball we'd all be pissed and wondering why he was on the time at all right now.

People will be different. However, if you're going to use the term ungodly, I wanna see the post stating he was gonna come in and average 60 PPG, 20 APG, 15 RPG, 10 SPG, 8 BPG and 0 turnovers the entire season. Then go #1 in the NBA Draft. If it isn't on par with that then it is not ungodly.

(01-25-2014 07:35 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 07:17 PM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:24 AM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 11:13 AM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

I'm going to have to agree with you about that. And, I'm guilty of it myself.

Had such fine visions of a 10 deep lineup pressing like mad every second of the game.

Still.... That's not even close to an ungodly expectation. Ungodly expectations are to go undefeated, blow every team out by 40, and have 8 players drafted in the top 10.

I heard from a poster that will remain nameless, that he would step on the court for us this season and automatically be our best player.

There will be goobers that do this every season, but it's wise to wait til you see a new player actually play a few D1 games before you start to formulate an opinion on how they'll do for the season.

Yes, and we heard it from the media that he would be our best guard and so on. Expectations are expectations. Some may expect little and some are going to expect a lot. No one is going to be the same.

If we all expected him to completely 100% suck then we'd all be happy right now. If we all expected him to be the best player in college basketball we'd all be pissed and wondering why he was on the time at all right now.

People will be different. However, if you're going to use the term ungodly, I wanna see the post stating he was gonna come in and average 60 PPG, 20 APG, 15 RPG, 10 SPG, 8 BPG and 0 turnovers the entire season. Then go #1 in the NBA Draft. If it isn't on par with that then it is not ungodly.

Word to the wise: keep your expectations reasonable, in basketball and in life. You'll be a happier man.

(01-25-2014 07:12 PM)3601 Wrote:  

(01-25-2014 09:10 AM)MemphisCanes Wrote:  Ungodly pre-season expectations from this board strike again.

Ungodly? After hearing that he was an all conference defensive player I guess I just expected more. I'm not saying that he's bad at D, but I just haven't seen anything special. I don't consider him an elite defender from what I've seen this year.

Again, I like him as a player. I just don't see him as a lock down defender.

There were a few defensive rule changes over the off season. They impacted some more than others. Hell, VCU's entire team went from great defensively to completely horrible, until they could adjust.