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DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
Quote:An 11-year-old autistic Middleboro boy’s claim that he was sexually assaulted by another youth inside his foster home was dismissed as “consensual” sex by child welfare officials charged with protecting him, in a stunning case the boy’s family and school officials charge was plagued by missteps by the embattled Department of Children and Families.
According to DCF investigative reports, police reports and letters, the boy — then 11 but with the cognitive ability of a 5- or 6-year-old, his father told police — was allegedly sexually assaulted by another youth in the foster home while the parents slept during the early morning hours of May 2, 2009.
Officials at Massachusetts MENTOR, a state contractor that supervised the foster care, said they immediately removed the 11-year-old from the home, but they didn’t take him to the hospital because both boys initially said the incident entailed only touching and rubbing — actions officials described as “consensual and experimental.”
But two days later, the boy told a teacher at Amego he was “harassed” into sexual contact, prompting school officials to rush him to a hospital to be examined.
Both the autistic boy and the other youth described the contact as sexual in nature — and that it had happened three to four times — but DCF investigators, in wrapping their probe, indicated it was consensual, writing in a report that “the boys took proactive steps to avoid parental detection.”
DCF investigators never interviewed either of the boys, citing a potential criminal case, and said doctors found no evidence of “tears or bruising” on the autistic boy, though, as one social worker pointed out in the probe, the examination didn’t come until days afterward, according to an investigation report.
http://bostonherald.com/news_opinion/loc...ensual_sex
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
Welcome to the liberal/homosexual utopia. BEWARE, because Martha Coakley has already gone on record as SUPPORTING a homosexual's RIGHT to molest your children, be it in a store bathroom, a state park or a parking lot.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
Some of us warned about it before, look for more and more people to try to claim "consensual" sex when children are involved.
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2014 01:22 PM by DaSaintFan.)
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
It's concerning but I think it's more to do with incompetent social workers.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 01:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: Some of us warned about it before, look for more and more people to try to claim "consensual" sex when children are involved.
So tell me libs.... If a kid at 11 can consent to sex with a 13 year old why not a 23 year old?
And *PLEASE* don't use the circular argument of "because the law says so"... Laws can be changed.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 01:53 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (01-21-2014 01:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: Some of us warned about it before, look for more and more people to try to claim "consensual" sex when children are involved.
So tell me libs.... If a kid at 11 can consent to sex with a 13 year old why not a 23 year old?
And *PLEASE* don't use the circular argument of "because the law says so"... Laws can be changed.
For the same reason a 15 year old can consent to sex with another 15 year old and not a 23 year old? What the hell kind of question is that?
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 02:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote: (01-21-2014 01:53 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (01-21-2014 01:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: Some of us warned about it before, look for more and more people to try to claim "consensual" sex when children are involved.
So tell me libs.... If a kid at 11 can consent to sex with a 13 year old why not a 23 year old?
And *PLEASE* don't use the circular argument of "because the law says so"... Laws can be changed.
For the same reason a 15 year old can consent to sex with another 15 year old and not a 23 year old? What the hell kind of question is that?
Thats not an answer... That's a faux outrage dodge...
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 02:24 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (01-21-2014 02:16 PM)UCF08 Wrote: (01-21-2014 01:53 PM)Bull_In_Exile Wrote: (01-21-2014 01:22 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote: Some of us warned about it before, look for more and more people to try to claim "consensual" sex when children are involved.
So tell me libs.... If a kid at 11 can consent to sex with a 13 year old why not a 23 year old?
And *PLEASE* don't use the circular argument of "because the law says so"... Laws can be changed.
For the same reason a 15 year old can consent to sex with another 15 year old and not a 23 year old? What the hell kind of question is that?
Thats not an answer... That's a faux outrage dodge...
That absolutely is an answer; the children aren't at the age of consent. That applies to the 13 year old in this story too, he took part in something he probably didn't understand fully himself with someone who was his peer, do you think having him arrested for rape is a productive outcome? Faux outrage is this entire thread.
EDIT: And if you don't understand why we as a society set an age of consent, and apply different rules to those on each side of that age, I don't know what to say.
(This post was last modified: 01-21-2014 02:30 PM by UCF08.)
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
Pedophiles aren't going to have as hard a battle as I thought. And conservatives will be told it's a loser at election time, stop making it an issue if you ever want to win again.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 05:07 PM)Paul M Wrote: Pedophiles aren't going to have as hard a battle as I thought. And conservatives will be told it's a loser at election time, stop making it an issue if you ever want to win again.
I would love it if the liberals tried pushing that narrative.
"The GOP will never win another election until they change their stance on age of consent."
And they are just dumb enough to do it.
The great thing about liberalism, it always self implodes in the end.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
I can't say I have ever encountered an 11 year old that I thought was capable of consent. The youngest I have encountered was 14...and he was exceptionally bright and mature young man. Generally not the case for most 14 year olds.
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Re: RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 05:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I can't say I have ever encountered an 11 year old that I thought was capable of consent. The youngest I have encountered was 14...and he was exceptionally bright and mature young man. Generally not the case for most 14 year olds.
??? 8^/
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 05:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I can't say I have ever encountered an 11 year old that I thought was capable of consent. The youngest I have encountered was 14...and he was exceptionally bright and mature young man. Generally not the case for most 14 year olds.
Whoa what?
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 05:47 PM)EverRespect Wrote: (01-21-2014 05:32 PM)Fo Shizzle Wrote: I can't say I have ever encountered an 11 year old that I thought was capable of consent. The youngest I have encountered was 14...and he was exceptionally bright and mature young man. Generally not the case for most 14 year olds.
??? 8^/
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
When you have an issue like this, where both participants are under the age of consent the issue isn't the age of consent.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
I don't understand the right wingers on this website accusing the left of supporting pedophilia. I've never a person post something in support of it online. I've never met a person IRL who supported it. I've never seen a news story of an American leftist supporting it. This issue doesn't exist.
Are you guys on crack?
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 09:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: When you have an issue like this, where both participants are under the age of consent the issue isn't the age of consent.
Yes and no. At some point in development, a person just doesn't have the cognitive abilities to fairly hold them accountable for their actions as you would an adult, and I think that's what this situation was. The 13 year old is far from innocent from all wrongdoing, but I seriously doubt labeling him a sexual offender and having him arrested for rape is the answer here.
It's a bad situation without an easy answer, which is why I'm surprised that the response was 'PSHHHH bull**** LIBERALS!'
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 10:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote: (01-21-2014 09:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: When you have an issue like this, where both participants are under the age of consent the issue isn't the age of consent.
Yes and no. At some point in development, a person just doesn't have the cognitive abilities to fairly hold them accountable for their actions as you would an adult, and I think that's what this situation was. The 13 year old is far from innocent from all wrongdoing, but I seriously doubt labeling him a sexual offender and having him arrested for rape is the answer here.
It's a bad situation without an easy answer, which is why I'm surprised that the response was 'PSHHHH bull**** LIBERALS!'
No, it's just no.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
A few likable sitcom characters, an American Idol winner, more positive APA studies and a few scathing articles calling opponents bigots and pedophobes and the left will have their next "civil right" to get behind.
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RE: DCF deems alleged assault of boy, 11, ‘consensual’ sex
(01-21-2014 10:30 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: (01-21-2014 10:27 PM)UCF08 Wrote: (01-21-2014 09:22 PM)HeartOfDixie Wrote: When you have an issue like this, where both participants are under the age of consent the issue isn't the age of consent.
Yes and no. At some point in development, a person just doesn't have the cognitive abilities to fairly hold them accountable for their actions as you would an adult, and I think that's what this situation was. The 13 year old is far from innocent from all wrongdoing, but I seriously doubt labeling him a sexual offender and having him arrested for rape is the answer here.
It's a bad situation without an easy answer, which is why I'm surprised that the response was 'PSHHHH bull**** LIBERALS!'
No, it's just no.
Is anyone applauding this? I'm asking for what recourse you'd prefer to the course taken.
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