(01-17-2014 12:05 AM)CaryNCDuke Wrote: one of his tweets says #denied so I am assuming his grades didn't cut it.
I would think that too, but one of his other top targets he list is Dartmouth (along with W&M)....not sure what to think with that, then. Maybe he was denied early admission?
Is it possible that the new staff decided he wasn't a good fit for their system and decided to pull the scholarship offer? I can't imagine it's grades with the other schools he's considering.
If true sucks to pull a kid's scholly offer from one who has already committed, and told other schools that, less than 3 weeks before signing date....
I don't know but based on his twitter account it sounds like that's exactly what happened.
(01-18-2014 11:40 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote: I really don't understand why we don't mine Pennsylvania and New Jersey more. There are really good players there who would love to come to JMU. I'm talking more about the past but that it seems like we wast too much time losing battles in the saturated Tidewater area.
Agreed. Don't know how many Div I scholly players a year come out of NJ HS, but NJ has more population than VA, with 1 full scholly I-A team- Rutgers, alot of their talent has to go out of state.
PA has about 50% more population than VA, I'm pretty sure produces more Div I talent than VA, yet like VA has only 3 I-A schools (PSU, Pitt, Temple), and only 1 full scholly I-AA (Villanova, who is a private Catholic who gets a majority of their players from out of state) compared to 7 for VA. I'm pretty sure PA produces far more players than they have schollies.
Compare them to NC. More population than VA (about 9.8 to 8.3 million), probably produces more Div I players per year, but no way do they produce enough to fill soon to be 7 I-A and 5 full scholly I-AA teams (would necessitate around 225-250 players a year).
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2014 03:12 PM by BDKJMU.)
(01-18-2014 11:40 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote: I really don't understand why we don't mine Pennsylvania and New Jersey more. There are really good players there who would love to come to JMU. I'm talking more about the past but that it seems like we wast too much time losing battles in the saturated Tidewater area.
Agreed. Don't know how many Div I scholly players a year come out of NJ HS, but NJ has more population than VA, with 1 full scholly I-A team- Rutgers, alot of their talent has to go out of state.
PA has about 50% more population than VA, I'm pretty sure produces more Div I talent than VA, yet like VA has only 3 I-A schools (PSU, Pitt, Temple), and only 1 full scholly I-AA (Villanova, who is a private Catholic who gets a majority of their players from out of state) compared to 7 for VA. I'm pretty sure PA produces far more players than they have schollies.
Compare them to NC. More population than VA (about 9.8 to 8.3 million), probably produces more Div I players per year, but no way do they produce enough to fill soon to be 7 I-A and 5 full scholly I-AA teams (would necessitate around 225-250 players a year).
I think you may want to check out the number of Divison I football players that come from each state, rather than population. States like Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama trounce NJ in that category. And VA is a more fertile recruiting ground than NJ.
(01-18-2014 11:40 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote: I really don't understand why we don't mine Pennsylvania and New Jersey more. There are really good players there who would love to come to JMU. I'm talking more about the past but that it seems like we wast too much time losing battles in the saturated Tidewater area.
Agreed. Don't know how many Div I scholly players a year come out of NJ HS, but NJ has more population than VA, with 1 full scholly I-A team- Rutgers, alot of their talent has to go out of state.
PA has about 50% more population than VA, I'm pretty sure produces more Div I talent than VA, yet like VA has only 3 I-A schools (PSU, Pitt, Temple), and only 1 full scholly I-AA (Villanova, who is a private Catholic who gets a majority of their players from out of state) compared to 7 for VA. I'm pretty sure PA produces far more players than they have schollies.
Compare them to NC. More population than VA (about 9.8 to 8.3 million), probably produces more Div I players per year, but no way do they produce enough to fill soon to be 7 I-A and 5 full scholly I-AA teams (would necessitate around 225-250 players a year).
I think you may want to check out the number of Divison I football players that come from each state, rather than population. States like Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama trounce NJ in that category. And VA is a more fertile recruiting ground than NJ.
Thing is, IMO, JMU is more marketable in states like PA and NJ than it even is in VA because there's less competition. That 757 area is just so worn out by VT, UVA, and ODU that we're like the last guy at the bar down there looking to bring home scraps. There's more talented players that we can actually get to the North.
(01-18-2014 11:40 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote: I really don't understand why we don't mine Pennsylvania and New Jersey more. There are really good players there who would love to come to JMU. I'm talking more about the past but that it seems like we wast too much time losing battles in the saturated Tidewater area.
Agreed. Don't know how many Div I scholly players a year come out of NJ HS, but NJ has more population than VA, with 1 full scholly I-A team- Rutgers, alot of their talent has to go out of state.
PA has about 50% more population than VA, I'm pretty sure produces more Div I talent than VA, yet like VA has only 3 I-A schools (PSU, Pitt, Temple), and only 1 full scholly I-AA (Villanova, who is a private Catholic who gets a majority of their players from out of state) compared to 7 for VA. I'm pretty sure PA produces far more players than they have schollies.
Compare them to NC. More population than VA (about 9.8 to 8.3 million), probably produces more Div I players per year, but no way do they produce enough to fill soon to be 7 I-A and 5 full scholly I-AA teams (would necessitate around 225-250 players a year).
I think you may want to check out the number of Divison I football players that come from each state, rather than population. States like Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama trounce NJ in that category. And VA is a more fertile recruiting ground than NJ.
I never said VA wasn't more fertile ground than NJ. Whatever GA, Miss, or Bama produces is irrelevant to what I was saying. I stated NJ has a higher population than VA with only one I-A team and 0 full scholly I-AA. NJ, while producing less talent a year than VA, produces far more scholarship players per season than the in state schollys per season available from their sole I-A school.
Looking at Rivals, NJ had 53 players sign I-A LOI last season. Rutgers 2013 class had 22 LOI. That means the state of NJ produced about 31 more I-A scholly players than their lone I-A school provided schollies.
Of Rutgers 22 LOI, 11 were in state. So NJ had about 42 players sign I-A LOI out of state (2 with ODuh).
They also had 9 sign with full scholly I-AA (8 with CAA schools), + a handful that signed with the out of state NEC and Patriot.
Edit: Can't get the link to work. You have to go to Rivals, Prospect Search, plug in 2013 and NJ.
(This post was last modified: 01-18-2014 04:25 PM by BDKJMU.)
(01-18-2014 11:40 AM)DoubleDDuke Wrote: I really don't understand why we don't mine Pennsylvania and New Jersey more. There are really good players there who would love to come to JMU. I'm talking more about the past but that it seems like we wast too much time losing battles in the saturated Tidewater area.
Agreed. Don't know how many Div I scholly players a year come out of NJ HS, but NJ has more population than VA, with 1 full scholly I-A team- Rutgers, alot of their talent has to go out of state.
PA has about 50% more population than VA, I'm pretty sure produces more Div I talent than VA, yet like VA has only 3 I-A schools (PSU, Pitt, Temple), and only 1 full scholly I-AA (Villanova, who is a private Catholic who gets a majority of their players from out of state) compared to 7 for VA. I'm pretty sure PA produces far more players than they have schollies.
Compare them to NC. More population than VA (about 9.8 to 8.3 million), probably produces more Div I players per year, but no way do they produce enough to fill soon to be 7 I-A and 5 full scholly I-AA teams (would necessitate around 225-250 players a year).
I think you may want to check out the number of Divison I football players that come from each state, rather than population. States like Georgia, Mississippi, and Alabama trounce NJ in that category. And VA is a more fertile recruiting ground than NJ.
I never said VA wasn't more fertile ground than NJ. Whatever GA, Miss, or Bama produces is irrelevant to what I was saying. I stated NJ has a higher population than VA with only one I-A team and 0 full scholly I-AA. NJ, while producing less talent a year than VA, produces far more scholarship players per season than the in state schollys per season available from their sole I-A school.
Looking at Rivals, NJ had 53 players sign I-A LOI last season. Rutgers 2013 class had 22 LOI. That means the state of NJ produced about 31 more I-A scholly players than their lone I-A school provided schollies.
Of Rutgers 22 LOI, 11 were in state. So NJ had about 42 players sign I-A LOI out of state (2 with ODuh).
They also had 9 sign with full scholly I-AA (8 with CAA schools), + a handful that signed with the out of state NEC and Patriot.
Edit: Can't get the link to work. You have to go to Rivals, Prospect Search, plug in 2013 and NJ.
This map is a pretty cool resource when it comes to college football recruiting. It shows how many Division I players came from each county across the US. NJ definitely does have it's fair share of players.
(01-19-2014 12:00 PM)Big Duke Wrote: 247Sports showing KJ Ford at100% JMU after his official visit. No Commitment yet, but looking good
I know nothing is official until they sign, but did we really just take a 3-star that had an offer from nc state?
I know ravenel had a handful of bcs offers, and odu, but chose JMU.
(01-19-2014 12:00 PM)Big Duke Wrote: 247Sports showing KJ Ford at100% JMU after his official visit. No Commitment yet, but looking good
I know nothing is official until they sign, but did we really just take a 3-star that had an offer from nc state?
I know ravenel had a handful of bcs offers, and odu, but chose JMU.
Sure hope so. He's the kind of guy we need to kick things up a notch. We need someone to replace Stanton. Him and Mosley would be a good combo.
Awesome. I assume he'll probably still redshirt but if he does, in fact sign, it's not a "After a year in the weight room and D-hall" guy. I realize at FCS that's sometimes the route you need to go but it would be awesome to get this guy. Looking forward to signing day. The highlight tape is impressive and you can tell he's going against some good competition. Not like he's out there beating up on little guys.
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