(01-04-2014 02:56 PM)thememphisshow Wrote:  I was afraid that was going to happen. Hope they realize that was why we were so successful. GO INSIDE FIRST! There is no reason why Austin should have been on the bench basically the ENTIRE second half.

I am not even going to bother reading the rest of the thread. Basketball is a game where you use your height to your advantage if you can. Playing two 6-0 guards and giving the green light is asking for disaster. Pellom has a very high shot percentage and gets a lot of garbage baskets around the rim. Austin is a high percentage shooter and can hit free throws. Shaq can be a handful. I think we panicked too soon. Saw some bad body language starting at the 15 minute mark of the second half.

Really wish the NCAA would go ahead and implement that 8 point shot already. We could have used it.

(01-05-2014 06:02 PM)MemphisTinker Wrote:  CJP after-game comment:

"I told our guys that this is the American, and it is going to be tough. If they play the way we did today, then it is not going to work. We have to trust the process out there and play the way that I want them to play. We cannot let the defense get to us, and we have to play inside-outside basketball. Our guards were not sharp like I wanted. We have to do a better job when we travel to Louisville."

He contradicted himself in that statement.

(01-05-2014 09:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 06:02 PM)MemphisTinker Wrote:  CJP after-game comment:

"I told our guys that this is the American, and it is going to be tough. If they play the way we did today, then it is not going to work. We have to trust the process out there and play the way that I want them to play. We cannot let the defense get to us, and we have to play inside-outside basketball. Our guards were not sharp like I wanted. We have to do a better job when we travel to Louisville."

He contradicted himself in that statement.

Please tell me you're joking.

I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that!

(01-05-2014 09:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 06:02 PM)MemphisTinker Wrote:  CJP after-game comment:

"I told our guys that this is the American, and it is going to be tough. If they play the way we did today, then it is not going to work. We have to trust the process out there and play the way that I want them to play. We cannot let the defense get to us, and we have to play inside-outside basketball. Our guards were not sharp like I wanted. We have to do a better job when we travel to Louisville."

He contradicted himself in that statement.

Nah he wanted Geron Johnson and Chris Crawford to go post up a couple 6'8-6'9 guys and either score inside or dish it out to Dixon for an open three.

Makes sense if you think about it.

Pass the ball inside duh

(01-05-2014 09:58 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 09:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 06:02 PM)MemphisTinker Wrote:  CJP after-game comment:

"I told our guys that this is the American, and it is going to be tough. If they play the way we did today, then it is not going to work. We have to trust the process out there and play the way that I want them to play. We cannot let the defense get to us, and we have to play inside-outside basketball. Our guards were not sharp like I wanted. We have to do a better job when we travel to Louisville."

He contradicted himself in that statement.

Please tell me you're joking.

I have a higher opinion of your intelligence than that!

You may be in the minority on that.

(01-05-2014 09:58 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 09:30 PM)Brother Bluto Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 06:02 PM)MemphisTinker Wrote:  CJP after-game comment:

"I told our guys that this is the American, and it is going to be tough. If they play the way we did today, then it is not going to work. We have to trust the process out there and play the way that I want them to play. We cannot let the defense get to us, and we have to play inside-outside basketball. Our guards were not sharp like I wanted. We have to do a better job when we travel to Louisville."

He contradicted himself in that statement.

Nah he wanted Geron Johnson and Chris Crawford to go post up a couple 6'8-6'9 guys and either score inside or dish it out to Dixon for an open three.

Makes sense if you think about it.

(01-05-2014 08:38 PM)Tigermaniac Wrote:  Really wish the NCAA would go ahead and implement that 8 point shot already. We could have used it.

we would have missed those too.

(01-04-2014 08:32 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:06 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:14 PM)450bench Wrote:  Zero adjustments is just pitiful...how can you go inside out with 4 guards? No Austin in the second half...Awful coaching...awful

it was awful coaching but some here want to act like this is just a game and it is not life or death and at the end of the year everyone gets a trophy. its cheerleading time.....down by 10 with less than a minute to go and its still Go Tigers, hooray I'm happy.

If this is really life and death for you, you got bigger problems.

Our whole section was yelling at Pastner about it. No reason to sit him for 7 minutes in that games. Especially given how awful the other guards were playing. I blame Josh for disrupting Joe's play in that game. He played great in the first half and Josh pulled him for who knows what reason.

(01-06-2014 10:06 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:32 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:06 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:14 PM)450bench Wrote:  Zero adjustments is just pitiful...how can you go inside out with 4 guards? No Austin in the second half...Awful coaching...awful

it was awful coaching but some here want to act like this is just a game and it is not life or death and at the end of the year everyone gets a trophy. its cheerleading time.....down by 10 with less than a minute to go and its still Go Tigers, hooray I'm happy.

If this is really life and death for you, you got bigger problems.

Our whole section was yelling at Pastner about it. No reason to sit him for 7 minutes in that games. Especially given how awful the other guards were playing. I blame Josh for disrupting Joe's play in that game. He played great in the first half and Josh pulled him for who knows what reason.

3 turns in a 2 minute span...But I still say you stick with JJ...If you believe in him you don't pull him for mistakes, you understand that he will play better.

(01-06-2014 10:30 AM)macgar32 Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 10:06 AM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:32 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 08:06 PM)Joe1 Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 03:14 PM)450bench Wrote:  Zero adjustments is just pitiful...how can you go inside out with 4 guards? No Austin in the second half...Awful coaching...awful

it was awful coaching but some here want to act like this is just a game and it is not life or death and at the end of the year everyone gets a trophy. its cheerleading time.....down by 10 with less than a minute to go and its still Go Tigers, hooray I'm happy.

If this is really life and death for you, you got bigger problems.

Our whole section was yelling at Pastner about it. No reason to sit him for 7 minutes in that games. Especially given how awful the other guards were playing. I blame Josh for disrupting Joe's play in that game. He played great in the first half and Josh pulled him for who knows what reason.

3 turns in a 2 minute span...But I still say you stick with JJ...If you believe in him you don't pull him for mistakes, you understand that he will play better.

Yeah, he's our best player and needs to be in the game. Plus, he has the rare ability to change the tide very quickly. Besides, the other guards were worse than him on Saturday!

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

(01-06-2014 01:16 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

I am so glad that there are a few fans that can actually see what happened.

You are exactly right and there are 3 or 4 others here who get it.

(01-06-2014 01:16 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

I've been screaming for years that referees can and do affect a game. When they are "no calling" when our players get mugged it gets in their head, "there's no use in me going in there and getting my head taken off, they are not going to call it." The worst game I ever saw with that was the UCLA game Carney's senior year. The bad no calls against us and touch fouls for them completely demoralized our players and they just gave up. The score was in the 40's. They never have to answer or explain to anyone on the planet about what they do. They are totally unaccountable.

(01-06-2014 02:44 PM)lenetzach Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 01:16 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

I am so glad that there are a few fans that can actually see what happened.

You are exactly right and there are 3 or 4 others here who get it.

Not sure if anyone else has noticed the trend but..

Going into the UF game, we were ranked 16th overall on Kenpom, 19th in offensive efficiency and 24th on defensive efficiency.

Now, we are 36th overall, 42nd on offense and 40th on defense.

This coincides with what some have said about how we've looked after that game. Just watching us play after the UF game, even against inferior competition like JSU and SEMO, we've gone back to our old ways of not pounding it inside. We were at our best when we were playing inside out.

(01-06-2014 03:34 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 01:16 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

I've been screaming for years that referees can and do affect a game. When they are "no calling" when our players get mugged it gets in their head, "there's no use in me going in there and getting my head taken off, they are not going to call it." The worst game I ever saw with that was the UCLA game Carney's senior year. The bad no calls against us and touch fouls for them completely demoralized our players and they just gave up. The score was in the 40's. They never have to answer or explain to anyone on the planet about what they do. They are totally unaccountable.

As I mentioned in another thread, I think a lot of this is due to Pastner letting them get away with that stuff. It's a lot harder to swallow your whistle when you know the coach is going to lit into you if you don't do your job.

(01-04-2014 08:29 PM)Tanyaskees Wrote:  

(01-04-2014 04:59 PM)Tiger USA Wrote:  Joe Jackson played another solid game.
He is not the guard problem.
He is the guard solution.
Down the stretch, he was on the bench.

I really would like to know why.

I've said all along that CJP plays mind games....Dixon should be the one on the bench...kid has no mind out there just loose with the ball. And I hate his body language...chemistry killer.

(01-06-2014 04:17 PM)memphis88 Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 03:34 PM)Antonio5fan Wrote:  

(01-06-2014 01:16 PM)boss man Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 04:01 PM)dan o Wrote:  

(01-05-2014 03:55 PM)EarthBoundMisfit Wrote:  this game was reminiscent of what happened with Louisville last year.
With the exception of excessive bad reffing...we got cowed big time last year.
By the end of the game...we had our tails between our legs...just like yesterday.
Be glad we never played in the Big East folks. Until our young men learn to play that bruising style of play...it won't be pretty against Louisville, UConn, or Cincy.

We did seem a bit intimidated

Agreed on the points on excessive bad reffing and intimidation. That is what I mean after the game with a post that included "thank Cincy for hitting MEMPHIS in the mouth".

The guards failed to go inside enough and the bigs failed to assert themselves inside the few times they got the ball. UC got some "no calls" on some pretty good fouls and I think MEMPHIS backed off. Then the guards reverted to shooting perimeter shots, all four were bad with some OPEN looks. 24% speaks for itself. Game over.

It will be interesting indeed to see how things go Thursday at Louisville. I believe they can adjust like they did against OSU in Orlando. Contrary to what some fans think, Pastner is not stupid. He knows this team must play better and he knows sitting Nichols the whole second half is not good. He also knows everyone will judge him basically on the 12 - 14 big games this year.

Time will tell.

I've been screaming for years that referees can and do affect a game. When they are "no calling" when our players get mugged it gets in their head, "there's no use in me going in there and getting my head taken off, they are not going to call it." The worst game I ever saw with that was the UCLA game Carney's senior year. The bad no calls against us and touch fouls for them completely demoralized our players and they just gave up. The score was in the 40's. They never have to answer or explain to anyone on the planet about what they do. They are totally unaccountable.

As I mentioned in another thread, I think a lot of this is due to Pastner letting them get away with that stuff. It's a lot harder to swallow your whistle when you know the coach is going to lit into you if you don't do your job.

UAB did this to Cal's teams, notably the last time he lost down there. His reputation and antics made no difference, to the refs or to his players.