Too many off the court issues the past 4 years with this team.

We might be recruiting talent but it seems no one is paying attention to the character of the players.

Disgusting loss. Good for UNO and bad for UTEP. Conference tourney now must be won or the season is a bust. I hope the play improves cuz inconsistent and poor bball are no fun to watch. Don't know what Crosgile did but his journeyman career doesn't help my perception. 1 more issue and he should be kicked off once and for all. Still not sure what Moore exactly did to deserve a game suspension although this isn't his 1st time in CTF's doghouse either. The CTF era program is like a teenager right now and daddy rules with an iron fist. Some kids shape up while others further disobey. I still stand behind our coaches and have hope that things will turn around. I just have less hope that it will happen this season. Hopefully they get their chit together before conference time.

(12-17-2013 02:20 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  Conference tourney now must be won or the season is a bust.

Ahh...the story of every team in Conference USA this season, partly due to games like this one.

So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

(12-17-2013 02:22 PM)demiveeman Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:20 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  Conference tourney now must be won or the season is a bust.

Ahh...the story of every team in Conference USA this season, partly due to games like this one.

Sad but true.

I'll still be watching win or lose so hopefully the games are at least more fun to watch than the garbage last night. Rooting for all CUSAsters until our teams play each other. Except for departing schools.....they can lose out for all I care.

(12-17-2013 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

Not a chance in hell they win the conference if they continue playing inconsistently. And a regular season crown doesn't mean jack if CUSA is a 1 bid league. They will still try for both as I dont think they are competing goals.

We're still to the point that if someone has a 40ish RPI and loses in the conference champ game to the team with a 60 RPI that we'd get two in.

For that to happen 2/3 of UAB USM and La tech would have to go like 15-1 or 14-2 in conference play and both make it to the tourney champ game.

(12-17-2013 09:45 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 09:21 AM)blazers9911 Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 09:17 AM)VA49er Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 08:56 AM)PredatorUTEP Wrote:  I'm pretty shocked by this. UTEP beats a good Tennessee team and plays Kansas tough, but loses to UNO at home after a week off? I'm wondering if Tim Floyd has lost this team.

It happens. Teams always rusty after a week off and probably took UNO for granted. Bet they won't do that again.

But, as a conference, we can't afford these slip ups. UTEP was supposed to be one of the better teams in the conference this season. Good teams do not lose to winless teams this far into the season. Our conference RPI is already horrible, and this loss is not going to help any of us.

I agree, but Charlotte has lost to friggin' College of Charleston and a terrible Davidson team. Crap happens.

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College of Charleston & Davidson have been pretty good teams recently while it has been eons since UNO was good. I am shocked UTEP lost this game, like it has been noted this is their first D1 win the closest before was losing by 15 to Minnesota whom they trailed by 18 at half.

(12-17-2013 02:44 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

Not a chance in hell they win the conference if they continue playing inconsistently. And a regular season crown doesn't mean jack if CUSA is a 1 bid league. They will still try for both as I dont think they are competing goals.

If that is the case then they need to get rid of the cancer on that team and go with the kids that aren't causing problems. They may lose a bunch of games at the beginning but they may bring it together in time for the tourney.

(12-17-2013 02:50 PM)Dracorex Wrote:  We're still to the point that if someone has a 40ish RPI and loses in the conference champ game to the team with a 60 RPI that we'd get two in.

For that to happen 2/3 of UAB USM and La tech would have to go like 15-1 or 14-2 in conference play and both make it to the tourney champ game.

Have you seen the conference schedule this year? When you go on the road you have to play a game on Thursday and then have to turn around and play on Saturday with little time to no time to regroup as you are traveling on that Friday. There is going to be enormous pressure on the road team. You really think there is a team dominate enough to go 15-1 in CUSA with this new set up. I don't.

It would have to be some elaborate perfect scenario to even get 2 teams on the bubble where both just about dominated conference play and then only lost to each other. History shows you have to be about a top 35 team in CUSA to even get a those last at large spots, and top 55 to get a last NIT at larges. That's when CUSA was a 8 to 12 ranked conference and many teams sat home in the top 50 from the NCAA, and top 65 from the NIT.

It's looking more and more like 1 NCAA team and 1 NIT team and that's about what comes from every other 15-20th ranked conference if they are lucky.

(12-17-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:44 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

Not a chance in hell they win the conference if they continue playing inconsistently. And a regular season crown doesn't mean jack if CUSA is a 1 bid league. They will still try for both as I dont think they are competing goals.

If that is the case then they need to get rid of the cancer on that team and go with the kids that aren't causing problems. They may lose a bunch of games at the beginning but they may bring it together in time for the tourney.

I finally agree with you... I also think we should get rid of crosgile and hope the team comes together for the conference tournament.

(12-17-2013 07:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:44 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

Not a chance in hell they win the conference if they continue playing inconsistently. And a regular season crown doesn't mean jack if CUSA is a 1 bid league. They will still try for both as I dont think they are competing goals.

If that is the case then they need to get rid of the cancer on that team and go with the kids that aren't causing problems. They may lose a bunch of games at the beginning but they may bring it together in time for the tourney.

I finally agree with you... I also think we should get rid of crosgile and hope the team comes together for the conference tournament.

Yes, for once I also agree with Fit. Quit while you're ahead now buddy!

(12-17-2013 07:36 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 07:12 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 04:19 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:44 PM)gcp_mineros Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 02:30 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  So what happens next? Do you continue with plan A and hope for a Conference championship?

Or is it time to go with plan B and shoot for a Tournament Championship?

Not a chance in hell they win the conference if they continue playing inconsistently. And a regular season crown doesn't mean jack if CUSA is a 1 bid league. They will still try for both as I dont think they are competing goals.

If that is the case then they need to get rid of the cancer on that team and go with the kids that aren't causing problems. They may lose a bunch of games at the beginning but they may bring it together in time for the tourney.

I finally agree with you... I also think we should get rid of crosgile and hope the team comes together for the conference tournament.

Yes, for once I also agree with Fit. Quit while you're ahead now buddy!

I'm glad you all finally agree with me on something.

Just as an aside.

Yesterday on ESPN 600, many, many callers called in with their disappointment with the team's performance.

It seems, for some fans at least, their patience is wearing thin.

Epically disappointing for the conference

(12-17-2013 11:41 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  too many wtf good games and too many wtf bad games. We got blown out by Iowa, lost at home to nmsu and now UNO. We beat Tennessee convincingly, beat csu convincingly and play Kansas to with in 4. I don't know what gives, but I just get this feeling that crosgile is having a lot of issues with his teammates, coaches and what sucks is that he is our only true PG. We're his 3rd school, he left st joes after 2 seasons and eastern washinton in the middle of last season. Floyd had already suspended him indefinitely before the season started.

I can see losing at home to NMSU but isn't UNO DII now? Floyd is a pretty good coach too. We aren't playing real well right now at Tech either so I am not trying to rag on UTEP just surprised they lost.

(12-18-2013 01:42 PM)winston70 Wrote:  

(12-17-2013 11:41 AM)randaddyminer Wrote:  too many wtf good games and too many wtf bad games. We got blown out by Iowa, lost at home to nmsu and now UNO. We beat Tennessee convincingly, beat csu convincingly and play Kansas to with in 4. I don't know what gives, but I just get this feeling that crosgile is having a lot of issues with his teammates, coaches and what sucks is that he is our only true PG. We're his 3rd school, he left st joes after 2 seasons and eastern washinton in the middle of last season. Floyd had already suspended him indefinitely before the season started.

I can see losing at home to NMSU but isn't UNO DII now? Floyd is a pretty good coach too. We aren't playing real well right now at Tech either so I am not trying to rag on UTEP just surprised they lost.

New Orleans is div I and plays in the Southland Conference but they are far from a good team. This was a hit that UTEP and the conference did not need. UTEP had to play really bad in order to lose this one whether it was on the road or at home.

I finally agree with you... I also think we should get rid of crosgile and hope the team comes together for the conference tournament.
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Hey, wait a minute there buddy. Shouldn't we give Crosgile the benefit of the doubt. We don't even know what he did. You knooowwww that Floyd is a hothead to begin with and he might not be fitting the crime with the punishment. With Moore it seems like he expects it and doesn't let it get to him too much because he comes back and plays well afterward.

(12-18-2013 02:38 PM)olliebaba Wrote:  "I finally agree with you... I also think we should get rid of crosgile and hope the team comes together for the conference tournament."

Hey, wait a minute there buddy. Shouldn't we give Crosgile the benefit of the doubt. We don't even know what he did. You knooowwww that Floyd is a hothead to begin with and he might not be fitting the crime with the punishment. With Moore it seems like he expects it and doesn't let it get to him too much because he comes back and plays well afterward.

He is on his 3rd school and he was previously kicked off the team by CTF at the start of the season. I believe there is a youtube interview where Floyd states he was only let back on the team after his mom called and spoke on his behalf. He might have a great character and work ethic but his resume says otherwise. He also tweeted about his recent benching as "politics". That tells me he just doesn't get the message CTF is sending.

I would agree with you under other circumstances, but we're his third school, the last school he left them in the middle of the season. The problem is, Floyd is stuck between a rock and a hard place, because crosgile is our only pg.

(12-18-2013 03:35 PM)randaddyminer Wrote:  I would agree with you under other circumstances, but we're his third school, the last school he left them in the middle of the season. The problem is, Floyd is stuck between a rock and a hard place, because crosgile is our only pg.

Well he is only on the team because IH isn't. Damn.