The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

I have to disagree, If bad calls were good calls we wouldnt been in that situation

3-0 turnover stat killed us.

I don't think you blitz when you're in a prevent defense. We blitzed every 3rd down on that drive.

(10-05-2013 07:21 PM)Dwarren Wrote:  3-0 turnover stat killed us.

Yep. Especially when 2 of them should have been TD receptions in the end zone.

(10-05-2013 07:21 PM)Dwarren Wrote:  3-0 turnover stat killed us.

Make that 4 turnovers

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

The receiver was wide OPEN on that last play. You have to make the throw, and I am pretty sure there were no coaches involved in the execution of that play. Receiver throws it half a second sooner or half a yard further, Coaches are geniuses.

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

You left out the primary reason, horrendous officiating. Coaching didn't lose this game, they called a great game. The team made their share of mistakes, and we didn't do ourselves any favors with little margin for error. Blaming the coaches is bogus.

There's about 5 reasons for the loss, excluding the refs.

A "prevent" defense was not one of them, since we did not utilize a prevent defense.

The "poor coaching" was not either. The last play call wasn't the issue, it was that the play was well covered, and poorly executed after that. If the secondary bites on the run, that play is wide open. They didn't bite. The next option on that play was not to throw an interception. The execution was bad, not the play calling. Those weird play calls were the reason we went up early in the game, and we in position to win the game until the refs took over.

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

We didn't go prevent, we were blitzing. Did you miss the pick that we dropped. That would have ended the game. It was uncontested. No excuse. Not ragging on him. But that is a play we have to make to beat good teams. I watched the UGA/TN game while watching the Tiger game on ESPN3.com, UGA lost 5 playmakers and were playing freshman. But they didn't drop the game tying TD in the last 15 secs. That is what good teams do. If we can keep the coach and his staff, we will get pretty good.

(10-05-2013 07:31 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

We didn't go prevent, we were blitzing. Did you miss the pick that Bobby McClain dropped. That would have ended the game. It was uncontested. No excuse.

McCain was on the sideline since the first half, that was Ballintine with the drop.

(10-05-2013 07:30 PM)UofMstateU Wrote:  There's about 5 reasons for the loss, excluding the refs.

A "prevent" defense was not one of them, since we did not utilize a prevent defense.

The "poor coaching" was not either. The last play call wasn't the issue, it was that the play was well covered, and poorly executed after that. If the secondary bites on the run, that play is wide open. They didn't bite. The next option on that play was not to throw an interception. The execution was bad, not the play calling. Those weird play calls were the reason we went up early in the game, and we in position to win the game until the refs took over.

Agreed. There was no prevent. We were blitzing. Almost too much for me. But that is just me.

(10-05-2013 07:33 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:31 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

We didn't go prevent, we were blitzing. Did you miss the pick that Bobby McClain dropped. That would have ended the game. It was uncontested. No excuse.

McCain was on the sideline since the first half, that was Ballintine with the drop.

Apologies. The announcer said McCain. But the drop was the game.

(10-05-2013 07:26 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

The receiver was wide OPEN on that last play. You have to make the throw, and I am pretty sure there were no coaches involved in the execution of that play. Receiver throws it half a second sooner or half a yard further, Coaches are geniuses.

But you just proved my point why is your running back throwing the ball instead of your QB in that crucial situation.

(10-05-2013 07:31 PM)midtowncowboy Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

We didn't go prevent, we were blitzing. Did you miss the pick that Bobby McClain dropped. That would have ended the game. It was uncontested. No excuse. Not ragging on him. But that is a play we have to make to beat good teams. I watched the UGA/TN game while watching the Tiger game on ESPN3.com, UGA lost 5 playmakers and were playing freshman. But they didn't drop the game tying TD in the last 15 secs. That is what good teams do. If we can keep the coach and his staff, we will get pretty good.

Was probably tough for him since he was on crutches on the sideline.

Definitely not prevent defense.

We only gave up 17 points before the fumble TD.

That's pretty good D.

Actually the real two reasons we lost is because 1.NO BLACK JERSEYS?!?!?
2. TC STUPID THREADS

Just wondering why Craft didn't get the call since he was a QB at times in high school. The receiver was absolutely wide open.

(10-05-2013 07:26 PM)Chi-Town Wrote:  

(10-05-2013 07:19 PM)mewes Wrote:  The first was switching to a prevent defense on UCF's last drive. Why do that our defense was outstanding and you give first downs away. Second why call a half back pass. UCF's[/b] defense was gassed. Why just why. Coaching lost that game.

The receiver was wide OPEN on that last play. You have to make the throw, and I am pretty sure there were no coaches involved in the execution of that play. Receiver throws it half a second sooner or half a yard further, Coaches are geniuses.

Don't see how he was wide open when 3 guys were on him. The play just didn't work.