(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

So you are the fat sister and we are the pretty one.

(09-04-2013 01:24 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  As a native of the great state of New Jersey I have to say that while the residents watch the TV networks from those two cities and root for those sports teams they most definitely don't consider themselves New Yorkers or Philladelphites? Philladelphians? Philladelphifiles? I don't know what they call themselves. They consider themselves Jersey Boys and Jersey Girls. There is a deep seeded pride and defense mechanism built up over decades of jokes about us from our jealous neighbors who make fun of us until they make enough money to move to jersey and our vastly superior public school system and higher median household income. They hate us because we have the beaches and better schools. Not to mention the tomatoes and corn and no sales tax on clothes.

Do you mean to claim that NNJ isn't dominated by NYC and that SNJ isn't dominated by Philly? And, do you mean to claim that there aren't dramatic cultural difference between NNJ and SNJ?

I actually can't think of a single NJ sports team that isn't in the shadow of either NYC or Philly.

EDIT:
I can't believe that this is controversial. Up until this thread, I have never seen anyone argue that NJ didn't have a massive divide. Honestly, this isn't my theory. When I was called on it, I ran a google search that came up with something like 100,000,000+ hits and pages of images diagraming the split. And yes, I realize that the vast majority of the 100,000,000+ hits aren't relevant, but it is a general indicator of the popularity of the theory, especially given that literally every single hit on at least the first page (I didn't go through any other pages) was directly relevant and supported the theory.

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

(09-04-2013 04:19 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 01:24 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  As a native of the great state of New Jersey I have to say that while the residents watch the TV networks from those two cities and root for those sports teams they most definitely don't consider themselves New Yorkers or Philladelphites? Philladelphians? Philladelphifiles? I don't know what they call themselves. They consider themselves Jersey Boys and Jersey Girls. There is a deep seeded pride and defense mechanism built up over decades of jokes about us from our jealous neighbors who make fun of us until they make enough money to move to jersey and our vastly superior public school system and higher median household income. They hate us because we have the beaches and better schools. Not to mention the tomatoes and corn and no sales tax on clothes.

Do you mean to claim that NNJ isn't dominated by NYC and that SNJ isn't dominated by Philly? And, do you mean to claim that there aren't dramatic cultural difference between NNJ and SNJ?

I actually can't think of a single NJ sports team that isn't in the shadow of either NYC or Philly.

EDIT:
I can't believe that this is controversial. Up until this thread, I have never seen anyone argue that NJ didn't have a massive divide. Honestly, this isn't my theory. When I was called on it, I ran a google search that came up with something like 100,000,000+ hits and pages of images diagraming the split. And yes, I realize that the vast majority of the 100,000,000+ hits aren't relevant, but it is a general indicator of the popularity of the theory, especially given that literally every single hit on at least the first page (I didn't go through any other pages) was directly relevant and supported the theory.

There is a divide but it's between each other and not between NYC and Philly. We all consider ourselves New Jersians not New Yorkers or Pennsylvanians. Yes, we do devide between what part of the state we're from but every state does that. Florida, New York, Illinois, Michigan, California, Texas etc just off the top of my head, but they all consider themselves all together Californians, Texans, Floridians etc.

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

So in this thread we've established that Nike and the New York Post are easily confused. Those observations are not exactly shocking.

The NY Post is all about having the greatest headlines ever, don't worry about fact checking the article. "Osama Bin Wanking" that's the Post touching the sun and all other newspapers have to bow down.

(09-04-2013 07:13 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 04:19 PM)nzmorange Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 01:24 PM)NJRedMan Wrote:  As a native of the great state of New Jersey I have to say that while the residents watch the TV networks from those two cities and root for those sports teams they most definitely don't consider themselves New Yorkers or Philladelphites? Philladelphians? Philladelphifiles? I don't know what they call themselves. They consider themselves Jersey Boys and Jersey Girls. There is a deep seeded pride and defense mechanism built up over decades of jokes about us from our jealous neighbors who make fun of us until they make enough money to move to jersey and our vastly superior public school system and higher median household income. They hate us because we have the beaches and better schools. Not to mention the tomatoes and corn and no sales tax on clothes.

Do you mean to claim that NNJ isn't dominated by NYC and that SNJ isn't dominated by Philly? And, do you mean to claim that there aren't dramatic cultural difference between NNJ and SNJ?

I actually can't think of a single NJ sports team that isn't in the shadow of either NYC or Philly.

EDIT:
I can't believe that this is controversial. Up until this thread, I have never seen anyone argue that NJ didn't have a massive divide. Honestly, this isn't my theory. When I was called on it, I ran a google search that came up with something like 100,000,000+ hits and pages of images diagraming the split. And yes, I realize that the vast majority of the 100,000,000+ hits aren't relevant, but it is a general indicator of the popularity of the theory, especially given that literally every single hit on at least the first page (I didn't go through any other pages) was directly relevant and supported the theory.

There is a divide but it's between each other and not between NYC and Philly. We all consider ourselves New Jersians not New Yorkers or Pennsylvanians. Yes, we do devide between what part of the state we're from but every state does that. Florida, New York, Illinois, Michigan, California, Texas etc just off the top of my head, but they all consider themselves all together Californians, Texans, Floridians etc.

And you don't think that there are significant cultural similarities between much of north NJ and the area around NYC (i.e. the significant part f NYC that spills over into NJ) and significant cultural similarities between much of south NJ and the area around Philly (i.e. the significant part of Philly that spills into NJ)?

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

That's why

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

(09-05-2013 03:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

Then can you explain the Carolina Hurricanes? They are in Raleigh, the state capital of North Carolina.

Here's my favorite:

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 02:45 PM)Kaplony Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 08:08 AM)VA49er Wrote:  Even Nike is confused when it comes to what teams are in SC/NC.

That's because after all these year Charlotte's NFL team is still trying to insist that they are the team for both Carolinas.

Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

There aren't many Panthers fans in SC anyway.

(09-05-2013 03:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

Then can you explain the Carolina Hurricanes? They are in Raleigh, the state capital of North Carolina.

explain what? 2 different owners and leagues man. one has nothing to do with the other. it's a fact the "carolina" panthers are targeted at both states. there's even articles about it from their early days. shape of the logo is supposed to look like the shape of the 2 states.

(09-05-2013 03:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 03:47 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  Which is the dumbest thing I've ever heard. North Carolina is twice as big as SC. Its NORTH Carolina's team.

The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

Then can you explain the Carolina Hurricanes? They are in Raleigh, the state capital of North Carolina.

I would argue that the Hockey team is called Carolina b/c it had more notoriety than Raleigh and they were trying to appeal to the entire state.

According to NFL, Carolina is a state, so is New England.

(09-06-2013 08:42 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-04-2013 06:24 PM)blunderbuss Wrote:  The choice of branding as "Carolina" and the shape of the logo was intentional to be BOTH states team.

I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

Then can you explain the Carolina Hurricanes? They are in Raleigh, the state capital of North Carolina.

I would argue that the Hockey team is called Carolina b/c it had more notoriety than Raleigh and they were trying to appeal to the entire state.

"Carolina" isn't a state. I think they should be the North Carolina Hurricanes

New England isnt a state but the name was chosen to attract fans from the whole north east area and not just Boston

(09-06-2013 10:27 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-06-2013 08:42 AM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:38 PM)NBPirate Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 03:21 PM)vandiver49 Wrote:  

(09-05-2013 11:14 AM)NBPirate Wrote:  I don't understand what purpose that serves. No other states do that. Its in Charlotte. Same with all the other professional sports we have. They are all in NC for a reason. South Carolina has no real cities.

It's supposed to be a regional/state designation, much like NE (self explanatory), Golden State (the Bay Area) and I would even argue Green Bay (Wisconsin and Upper Peninsula). Despite the location of the stadium, the hope was to attract fans from both states.

Then can you explain the Carolina Hurricanes? They are in Raleigh, the state capital of North Carolina.

I would argue that the Hockey team is called Carolina b/c it had more notoriety than Raleigh and they were trying to appeal to the entire state.

"Carolina" isn't a state. I think they should be the North Carolina Hurricanes

Does anybody think the Hurricanes represent SC? I'd never heard that before. I do know the Panthers are supposed to represent both NC and SC. The Panther's first games were held in SC and that's where they hold training camp so I get that.