(09-02-2013 08:36 AM)LSU04_08 Wrote:  

(09-01-2013 02:49 PM)Fitbud Wrote:  I love it.

Obama threatens to attack and everyone crys foul and that only Congress should make the decision. Now he lets Congress and the same people are complaining that he is passing the buck.

Some people are never satisfied.

*complaining that he's off playing golf and having fun.

I guess you would do the same thing instead of focusing on current problems which is why you don't have a problem with it.

What do you expect him to do? Sit in a quiet room and be sad?

The guy has to live his life just like everyone else. Why are you in here posting anyway, you should be worring about Syria.

Obama has punted on this issue. Anyone who was expecting a strong leader hasn't been paying attention for the last 5 years.

He's just an empty suit.

(09-02-2013 03:35 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(09-02-2013 12:04 PM)QuestionSocratic Wrote:  The smartest thing Congress can do is pass a resolution confirming that Obama has authority under the War Powers Resolution to do whatever Obama thinks is necessary and appropriate.
This gets around any of the second guessing about Congress' role in this particular conflict. It also puts the ball in Obama's court which is where it should be. It's pretty clear that the War Powers Resolution doesn't apply for the types of limited actions that are being contemplated.
Now if we get to the point of significant boots on the ground, then Congress needs to be involved.

The GOP led House can't vote for anything associated with Obama, regardless of the merits.

Hard to say. So far Obama hasn't come up with anything that had any merits.

So, if it gets voted down, what does the president then do? Nothing?

(09-02-2013 07:38 PM)Smaug Wrote:  So, if it gets voted down, what does the president then do? Nothing?

No, he's already said (at least through spokespersons) that if it's voted down he will still attack.

I don't think he has any concept of what he's doing here. How many Nobel Peace Prize winners have been convicted of war crimes?

Quote:The president is a spent force, both domestically and internationally. Congress should help by voting to cut our losses; it should resist opening the door to the uncertain consequences of a military campaign conducted, without conviction or clear purpose, by this commander in chief. If Republicans can limit the president’s authority to wander and blunder on the world stage, there is a moral obligation to do so.

A Vote of No Confidence is in Order

Wow! This in the WaPo?!?

But Democrat John McCain is right there lobbying for yes votes in support of Obama.

Quote:In the case of Syria, public support for U.S. action appears especially weak. An NBC News poll last week found that just 42% of Americans backed the use of military force against the Syrian government over its alleged use of chemical weapons. That number rose to 50% if the action was limited to cruise-missile strikes from U.S. naval ships.

American's appear to support a Congressional No Vote on Obama's Syrian Intervention Plan

Doesn't look like the American Public will be too upset if the Republicans say NO to Obama.

You know if he goes it alone without Congressional Authorization and it starts a Regional War with Israelis Lebanese Iranians etc involved he's pretty much done politically.

He will be Impeached.

Based upon what has been proposed so far to Congress, in 90% of the models and projections, this matter does not end well for the US.

My comments in CAPS.

(09-02-2013 01:02 AM)JMUDunk Wrote:  That's the coalition that the great uniter has put together? These are his guys after all, right? Obama healed the oceans, brought us to energy independence and got the Middle East to love him. And love each other. And love peace on earth, right? Hope and Change?

HEY, IT'S A CATCHY SLOGAN AND IT GOT HIM IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

Why is the whole effing world on fire under this amatuer?

BECAUSE...HE IS A FUKKING AMATUER.

Making dope okay is being a leader?

HE SMOKED WEED IN HIS YOUNGER DAYS - PROBABLY STILL DOES. HE'S A LEADER LIKE ROSEANNE BARR IS MISS SEPTEMBER.

C'mon people. This is terrible, from all fronts. The economy sucks,

THANKS FOR THE NEWS FLASH, LOL!

housing starts suck,

YEPPERS...

zerOcare sucks

WAIT'LL THE 2014 TAXES HIT HOME...WELL, AT LEST THE ONES THAT WEREN'T POSTPONED UNTIL 2015 DUE TO THE MID TERMS,LOL. THAT ACPPA BILL STINKS LIKE A WHOREHOUSE IN THE CONGO WITHOUT AC.

UE 6 sucks, bad,

NAH, THOSE PEOPLE ARE CHOOSING TO NOT WORK. WHO NEEDS A REAL JOB THAT YOU SLAVE AT FOR 40-50-60 HOURS A WEEK WHEN YOU CAN GET ALL KINDS OF GUBMINT GOODIES FOR FREE? THE TRUTH IS ROMNEY WAS RIGHT ABOUT THE 47%.

and that doesn't even touch Chicago, social wreckage, Detroit or anything more.

WELL, THE SOCIAL WRECKAGE IS WHITEY'S FAULT AND BUSH IS RESPONSIBLE FOR EVERYTHING ELSE.



YOU CAN'T MAKE AN OMELET WITHOUT BREAKING A FEW MILLION EGGS. AND THIS IS ONE HORRIFIC VOMITY INDUCING OMELET OBAMA IS COOKING UP IN AMERICA. BON APPETIT, FOOLS.

Good grief, what has to happen? Complete collapse?

YES, INDEEDY - THAT'S OBAMA'S OBJECTIVE. HE STILL HAS 51 MONTHS TO WRECK AMERICA.

How many were in the coalition that the ChimpBush had that so many leftists continue to malign? A quarter of the Earths countries or something?

YEP.

Today we have _______ one_______ France.

THIS SIMPLY PROVES YOU'RE RACIST. HOW DARE YOU BRING UP FACTS THAT QUESTION THE DECISIONS OF THE MAGNIFICENT "O".

I guess it's all politics and agenda.

NO, THIS IS OBAMA-VILLE AND THIS COUNTRY TRULY DESERVES IT. THAT WAS SECURED LAST NOVEMBER.

We are living witnesses to the crumbling of the greatest, most generous country on earth. Ever.

HAPPENS. IT HAPPENED HERE THANKS TO ONE EGOTISTICAL CHUMP THAT GOT RE-ELECTED.

Tis sad.

MANY OF US SAW IT COMING AND SPENT MONTHS LAST YEAR WARNING PEOPLE. EVERYONE KNOWS O'S FIRST TERM WAS HORRENDOUS FROM A RESULTS PERSPECTIVE. TRULY PUTRID, STARTING WITH THE ECONOMY. HE HAD TO BE SHOCKED WHEN HE GOT RE-ELECTED - "WOW, THESE PEOPLE REALLY WANT ME TO TEAR IT DOWN!"

SO HE IS.

MY SINCERE ADVICE IS QUIT BITCHING AND JUST TAKE THE PAIN.

I'M HONESTLY NOT SURPRISED BY ANYTHING THIS GUY DOES.

No one to support there, so do nothing.

As usual, Gleen Greenwald nails it.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...horization

The Obama Administration has already explicitly stated that he doesn't think he needs Congressional approval, and that even if Congress denies him, he'll still consider action. It's a completely hollow procedural move. Naturally, all it takes is The Chosen One faking having a vague acknowledgement of the Constitution for his mindless devotees to swoon like tween Beliebers.

(09-03-2013 09:44 AM)BlazerFan11 Wrote:  As usual, Gleen Greenwald nails it.

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree...horization

The Obama Administration has already explicitly stated that he doesn't think he needs Congressional approval, and that even if Congress denies him, he'll still consider action. It's a completely hollow procedural move. Naturally, all it takes is The Chosen One faking having a vague acknowledgement of the Constitution for his mindless devotees to swoon like tween Beliebers.

Then Congress needs to look at all the facts and do their constitutional duty. For the love of Pete don't "authorize force"... Declare ware or don't.

Here's a new one for you: From Al Jazeera

Quote:The Director of Research at the Brookings Doha Center, Shadi Hamid, tweets out about the Egyptian media depicting Obama as a member of the Muslim Brotherhood.
Newspaper also claims that son of Muslim Brotherhood leader threatened Obama with release of “papers” revealing his MB membership.

Kinda "coincidental" timing for this to come out now, huH?

(09-02-2013 07:50 PM)THE NC Herd Fan Wrote:  

Quote:The president is a spent force, both domestically and internationally. Congress should help by voting to cut our losses; it should resist opening the door to the uncertain consequences of a military campaign conducted, without conviction or clear purpose, by this commander in chief. If Republicans can limit the president’s authority to wander and blunder on the world stage, there is a moral obligation to do so.

A Vote of No Confidence is in Order

Wow! This in the WaPo?!?

But Democrat John McCain is right there lobbying for yes votes in support of Obama.

If there is a 'wrong side' to pick on an issue regarding the ME, you can bet that McLame and Grahamnesty will be right there with their 'moderate' (LOL) Islamic terrorist friends, posing for a photo-op. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Yet, Grahamnesty lectures Senators that if you vote no, then you don't understand the middle east. I think he has it backwards.

Add boehner to the Idiots..

Quote:Boehner, Congress' top Republican, emerged from a White House meeting with Obama and told reporters the U.S. must respond to Syrian President Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons. Boehner said only the United States has the capability and the capacity to stop Assad and warn others around the world that such actions will not be tolerated.

I swear.. our entire republican leadership is just... I honestly don't know what to say any more.

(09-01-2013 03:09 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  The only illegal war so far is Libya.

bull****. Libya wasn't a "war".

Quote:Operation Odyssey Dawn was the U.S. code name for the American role in the international military operation in Libya to enforce United Nations Security Council Resolution 1973 during the initial period of 19–31 March 2011, which continued afterwards under NATO command as Operation Unified Protector. The initial operation implemented a no-fly zone that was proposed during the Libyan civil war to prevent government forces loyal to Muammar Gaddafi from carrying out air attacks on Anti-Gaddafi forces. On 19 March 2011, several countries prepared to take immediate military action at a summit in Paris. Operations commenced on the same day with a strike by French fighter jets, then U.S. and UK forces conducting strikes from ships and submarines via 110 Tomahawk cruise missiles and air assets bombing Gaddafi forces near Benghazi. The goal of coalition forces has been to impose a no-fly zone and to destroy forces that threaten civilians – in effect this has meant forces loyal to Gaddafi.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Odyssey_Dawn

(09-03-2013 12:09 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Add boehner to the Idiots..

Quote:Boehner, Congress' top Republican, emerged from a White House meeting with Obama and told reporters the U.S. must respond to Syrian President Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons. Boehner said only the United States has the capability and the capacity to stop Assad and warn others around the world that such actions will not be tolerated.

...republican leadership...

Now that my friend is comedy!

(09-02-2013 08:00 PM)WMD Owl Wrote:  You know if he goes it alone without Congressional Authorization and it starts a Regional War with Israelis Lebanese Iranians etc involved he's pretty much done politically.

He will be Impeached.

Based upon what has been proposed so far to Congress, in 90% of the models and projections, this matter does not end well for the US.

Fat chance. You cons really need to get off the impeachment bull****. It would be the end of your party only.

(09-03-2013 12:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 12:09 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Add boehner to the Idiots..

Quote:Boehner, Congress' top Republican, emerged from a White House meeting with Obama and told reporters the U.S. must respond to Syrian President Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons. Boehner said only the United States has the capability and the capacity to stop Assad and warn others around the world that such actions will not be tolerated.

...republican leadership...

Now that my friend is comedy!

Tom, even i can admit when we have some screwballs who just happen to have an ® attached to their label. Mr. Orange Boehner is one of them. So are Graham and McCain.

(09-03-2013 03:43 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 12:58 PM)Redwingtom Wrote:  

(09-03-2013 12:09 PM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  Add boehner to the Idiots..

Quote:Boehner, Congress' top Republican, emerged from a White House meeting with Obama and told reporters the U.S. must respond to Syrian President Bashar Assad's alleged use of chemical weapons. Boehner said only the United States has the capability and the capacity to stop Assad and warn others around the world that such actions will not be tolerated.

...republican leadership...

Now that my friend is comedy!

Tom, even i can admit when we have some screwballs who just happen to have an ® attached to their label. Mr. Orange Boehner is one of them. So are Graham and McCain.

Thanks...and I'll second that on the liberal side with Pelosi, Reid, et. al.