Aint that right ketchup boy?

This thread could be alternately titled "Rumsfeld and Saddam in an alternative universe".

It's staggering how full circle the left has gone from Dubya's first term to now.

(08-31-2013 06:54 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This thread could be alternately titled "Rumsfeld and Saddam in an alternative universe".
It's staggering how full circle the left has gone from Dubya's first term to now.

And conversely the right.

That's because nothing is based on principle, or on doing what's right for the country, any more. It's all my team versus the other team.

Team over country, and both D's and R's are guilty.

(08-31-2013 07:18 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 06:54 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This thread could be alternately titled "Rumsfeld and Saddam in an alternative universe".
It's staggering how full circle the left has gone from Dubya's first term to now.

And conversely the right.

That's because nothing is based on principle, or on doing what's right for the country, any more. It's all my team versus the other team.

Team over country, and both D's and R's are guilty.

And I's.

(08-31-2013 07:18 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(08-31-2013 06:54 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  This thread could be alternately titled "Rumsfeld and Saddam in an alternative universe".
It's staggering how full circle the left has gone from Dubya's first term to now.

And conversely the right.

That's because nothing is based on principle, or on doing what's right for the country, any more. It's all my team versus the other team.

Team over country, and both D's and R's are guilty.

My team is winning.

My team has hotter cheerleaders.

I am of the opinion that leaders shouldn't be afraid of meeting with the enemy because photos may start popping up down the road. Here, the photos aren't the problem, it's the horrible judgement in what they were trying to do at the time.

And in all photos referenced, the outcome was pretty bad. Just ask the east Germans who weren't nazis.

(08-31-2013 10:41 AM)georgia_tech_swagger Wrote:  And in all photos referenced, the outcome was pretty bad. Just ask the east Germans who weren't nazis.

Are you seriously saying we should have not allied with the Soviets in World War II? Do you really think the outcome would have been the same if we had fought against them at the same time we were fighting against Germany and Japan?

Post-war, sure, but the point of my post was that context of a photo matters.

Kerry had his Colin Powell moment yesterday. His speech was embarrassing.