(07-30-2013 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:30 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:25 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:24 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  Ok, I call BS on that one. They are coming here for the jobs. I read the Austin Business Journal and Austin American Statesman daily and both say it is for the jobs.

Got you stumped on this one

You're right they are, idiot. So I guess they can't buy and sell us both after all. You have only stumped yourself little one.

You said they were coming because of California not the jobs so what have you proven?

Just come out and say it. You hate blacks, Mexicans, lesbians, gay males and Democrats. After that we are cool.

OK after you admit you are a far left zealot that has never pulled the lever for a GOP.

Just come out and say it. You hate white, male, straight conservative Christians. Why are you such a bigot?

And you deflect once again. Since I was 18 (now 41) I have voted 95% Republican. I attend church weekly and volunteer at least 6 hours a week for meals in wheels

Sure thing. Nothing says conservative like injecting racism into an argument that has nothing to do with race. So I'll ask again, we are you such a bigot?

(07-30-2013 10:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:30 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:25 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  You're right they are, idiot. So I guess they can't buy and sell us both after all. You have only stumped yourself little one.

You said they were coming because of California not the jobs so what have you proven?

Just come out and say it. You hate blacks, Mexicans, lesbians, gay males and Democrats. After that we are cool.

OK after you admit you are a far left zealot that has never pulled the lever for a GOP.

Just come out and say it. You hate white, male, straight conservative Christians. Why are you such a bigot?

And you deflect once again. Since I was 18 (now 41) I have voted 95% Republican. I attend church weekly and volunteer at least 6 hours a week for meals in wheels

Sure thing. Nothing says conservative like injecting racism into an argument that has nothing to do with race. So I'll ask again, we are you such a bigot?

Ha you make me I think you are an act.

Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

(07-30-2013 10:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:30 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  You said they were coming because of California not the jobs so what have you proven?

Just come out and say it. You hate blacks, Mexicans, lesbians, gay males and Democrats. After that we are cool.

OK after you admit you are a far left zealot that has never pulled the lever for a GOP.

Just come out and say it. You hate white, male, straight conservative Christians. Why are you such a bigot?

And you deflect once again. Since I was 18 (now 41) I have voted 95% Republican. I attend church weekly and volunteer at least 6 hours a week for meals in wheels

Sure thing. Nothing says conservative like injecting racism into an argument that has nothing to do with race. So I'll ask again, we are you such a bigot?

Ha you make me I think you are an act.

Are you drunk? What?

(07-30-2013 10:36 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:32 PM)GrayBeard Wrote:  Come on Okie...I'm still waiting for the proof of me being a liberal and also me saying that your anecdotal evidence was wrong.

You proved that yourself.

Show me.

(07-30-2013 10:47 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:42 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:40 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:38 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:34 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  OK after you admit you are a far left zealot that has never pulled the lever for a GOP.

Just come out and say it. You hate white, male, straight conservative Christians. Why are you such a bigot?

And you deflect once again. Since I was 18 (now 41) I have voted 95% Republican. I attend church weekly and volunteer at least 6 hours a week for meals in wheels

Sure thing. Nothing says conservative like injecting racism into an argument that has nothing to do with race. So I'll ask again, we are you such a bigot?

Ha you make me I think you are an act.

Are you drunk? What?

Somehow it took out laugh and no I don't drink

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

You sound like my nephew repeating everything I say

(07-30-2013 11:15 PM)Pony94 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

You sound like my nephew repeating everything I say

Nice. Maybe you should go talk to your nephew about this.

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

(07-30-2013 11:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.

This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually witake hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

I'm actually liberal in some areas. Especially when it comes to urban sprawl and the destruction of landmarks and natural areas. What I am talking about here, I have seen happen before.

(07-30-2013 11:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:46 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  Someone said something earlier about the end zone and the one yard line. Okie I think that is something you need to consider. Could it be that in the football analogy you are standing in the far end of the end zone of politics? It isn't that others aren't conservative or are liberals. It is that there just isn't any room to your right. Most people here are very conservative but some might be standing on the 5, 10, or 25 yard line. I'm standing way back on the other 40 yard line as a moderate but you think I'm a far left liberal. There is plenty of room to my left. Maybe Robert is on the 20? Just something to consider.

The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.
This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

No, you don't. At least, not judged by the opinions you have posted here.

The moderate neighborhood would be where R's like Jon Huntsman and D's like Joe Manchin hang out. Or people with voting records that are rated in the 40-60% range by decidedly conservative or liberal groups. I don't believe that you have expressed many, if any, views on here that are consistent with that characterization.

Moderate means you are almost certainly more liberal than the center on some issues and more conservative than the center on some issues. We have seen the issues where you are more liberal than the center. What are the issues where you are more conservative than the center?

(07-31-2013 12:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 10:50 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  The problem with this statement, dawgy, is that this discussion isn't about what yard line each of us are standing on.
This is about the age old problem in America where far left policies destroy a state and that state's far left population migrates to another state and repeats the process. It has happened in Florida, Colorado, Oregon, Washington Nevada, in the beginning stages of Arizona and eventually will take hold in Texas.

My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

No, you don't. At least, not judged by the opinions you have posted here.

The moderate neighborhood would be where R's like Jon Huntsman and D's like Joe Manchin hang out. Or people with voting records that are rated in the 40-60% range by decidedly conservative or liberal groups. I don't believe that you have expressed many, if any, views on here that are consistent with that characterization.

Moderate means you are almost certainly more liberal than the center on some issues and more conservative than the center on some issues. We have seen the issues where you are more liberal than the center. What are the issues where you are more conservative than the center?

No moderate means that you don't hold extreme views to the left or the right. I am a pragmatist that believes the biggest problem in politics today is the refusal of politicians to compromise.

(07-31-2013 07:04 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:11 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  My point is that you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far left.

I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

No, you don't. At least, not judged by the opinions you have posted here.

The moderate neighborhood would be where R's like Jon Huntsman and D's like Joe Manchin hang out. Or people with voting records that are rated in the 40-60% range by decidedly conservative or liberal groups. I don't believe that you have expressed many, if any, views on here that are consistent with that characterization.

Moderate means you are almost certainly more liberal than the center on some issues and more conservative than the center on some issues. We have seen the issues where you are more liberal than the center. What are the issues where you are more conservative than the center?

No moderate means that you don't hold extreme views to the left or the right. I am a pragmatist that believes the biggest problem in politics today is the refusal of politicians to compromise.

But most of the views you express here are from the left. I kinda have to agree with him. It seems to be a trend among liberals to call themselves moderates.

(07-31-2013 08:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 07:04 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 12:44 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:22 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-30-2013 11:14 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  I think the more accurate assumption would be you seem to have a distorted vision of what exactly is far right.

Maybe both of us have a distorted vision, but I try to hang out in the moderate neighborhood. I see better there.

No, you don't. At least, not judged by the opinions you have posted here.

The moderate neighborhood would be where R's like Jon Huntsman and D's like Joe Manchin hang out. Or people with voting records that are rated in the 40-60% range by decidedly conservative or liberal groups. I don't believe that you have expressed many, if any, views on here that are consistent with that characterization.

Moderate means you are almost certainly more liberal than the center on some issues and more conservative than the center on some issues. We have seen the issues where you are more liberal than the center. What are the issues where you are more conservative than the center?

No moderate means that you don't hold extreme views to the left or the right. I am a pragmatist that believes the biggest problem in politics today is the refusal of politicians to compromise.

But most of the views you express here are from the left. I kinda have to agree with him. It seems to be a trend among liberals to call themselves moderates.

Most people on this sight are either far right or libertarian so moderate views I express here seem far left. If I was at a site that skewed far left I would be accused of being a conservative if I said I was a moderate. It is all good. It is just an opinion.

(07-31-2013 09:51 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 08:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 07:04 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  No moderate means that you don't hold extreme views to the left or the right. I am a pragmatist that believes the biggest problem in politics today is the refusal of politicians to compromise.

But most of the views you express here are from the left. I kinda have to agree with him. It seems to be a trend among liberals to call themselves moderates.

Most people on this sight are either far right or libertarian so moderate views I express here seem far left. If I was at a site that skewed far left I would be accused of being a conservative if I said I was a moderate. It is all good. It is just an opinion.

If most people on this board lean right or libertarian, that does not make you a moderate. What makes you a moderate is that either you don't hold any views that are outside the moderate range, or the number of views that you hold that are left of moderate are balanced by an equal number that are right of moderate.

The views that you have expressed on here would not be correctly described as "don't hold extreme views to the left." Perhaps you have other issues where your stance is outside the center to the right. If so, what are they? If not, then you have no basis to claim to be a moderate.

Your claim seems to be, if I lean left on all issues, but not as far left as some of the crazies, then I'm a moderate. Nope.

At least most of those on here who lean right or libertarian are honest about it.

I think most leftists like to claim to be moderate because they think that where they stand is where moderate OUGHT to be. But it hasn't moved there yet. And I hope it never does.

(08-01-2013 12:28 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 09:51 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 08:45 PM)oklalittledixie Wrote:  

(07-31-2013 07:04 AM)dawgitall Wrote:  No moderate means that you don't hold extreme views to the left or the right. I am a pragmatist that believes the biggest problem in politics today is the refusal of politicians to compromise.

But most of the views you express here are from the left. I kinda have to agree with him. It seems to be a trend among liberals to call themselves moderates.

Most people on this sight are either far right or libertarian so moderate views I express here seem far left. If I was at a site that skewed far left I would be accused of being a conservative if I said I was a moderate. It is all good. It is just an opinion.

If most people on this board lean right or libertarian, that does not make you a moderate. What makes you a moderate is that either you don't hold any views that are outside the moderate range, or the number of views that you hold that are left of moderate are balanced by an equal number that are right of moderate.

The views that you have expressed on here would not be correctly described as "don't hold extreme views to the left." Perhaps you have other issues where your stance is outside the center to the right. If so, what are they? If not, then you have no basis to claim to be a moderate.

Your claim seems to be, if I lean left on all issues, but not as far left as some of the crazies, then I'm a moderate. Nope.

At least most of those on here who lean right or libertarian are honest about it.

I think most leftists like to claim to be moderate because they think that where they stand is where moderate OUGHT to be. But it hasn't moved there yet. And I hope it never does.

Whatever, they are just labels. They don't really mean much.