(07-29-2013 05:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:51 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Christie is not a true conservative.

What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

Absolutely dead f-ing wrong on every one of those talking points. Stay delusional, my friend.

Owl= #1 Yes. #2 Mostly. #3 See post above. #4 See post above #5 Mostly.
Owl= true conservative.

Christie needs to become what he is....a Democrat.

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:51 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Christie is not a true conservative.

What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

1) WRONG.. Hate Obama'a Policies... I don't hate the man himself, he's just pushing policies that are NOT to the benefit of this nation.

2) wrong... Dismantle? Nope... Lessen their power-grip. Yep.

3) Uhm... Occupy Wall Street sound familiar? That sure wasn't conservative "b1tching" about everything and everything. TEA Party rallies? Had one purpose... kill tax-increasing policies.

4) Angry? "Kill Cheney?" Sound familiar? "Kill Bush?" Sound familiar? I'd say the "kill people" anger comes way more on the left than the right. That being said.. you see our rights being taken away, wouldn't you get angry as well?

5) Paranoid? This one I'd say is more of a libertarian thing than a conservative thing :) (but at least neither have claimed that it's the Aliens mind control rays doing it)

Who needs paranoia when you've got the NSA?

(07-28-2013 09:50 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  Guess you will have to vote for Christie. Since you libs like him so much.

Actually he much more Conservative than his reputation. I'm not a fan. And if he runs, he'll have to run to the right. [/quote]

Tom, have you ever seen his comments?

He's Pro-Police pre-involvement. (those stories about police entering houses without warrants)
He's Pro-Amnesty
he's pro-imminent domain (or at least he was at one point)
He's Gun-Control
He's Pro-govt spending
He's pro-abortion (he changed his stance on that a couple of times in the NJ primary, but he's usually been pro-abortion in his stances)

Yes he's anti-big labor, but other than that, I can't think of too many things he's conservative on. But that's what works in New Jersey, but for the rest of the United States? I'm not so sure.

(07-29-2013 09:47 AM)DaSaintFan Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:51 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Christie is not a true conservative.

What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

1) WRONG.. Hate Obama'a Policies... I don't hate the man himself, he's just pushing policies that are NOT to the benefit of this nation.

2) wrong... Dismantle? Nope... Lessen their power-grip. Yep.

3) Uhm... Occupy Wall Street sound familiar? That sure wasn't conservative "b1tching" about everything and everything. TEA Party rallies? Had one purpose... kill tax-increasing policies.

4) Angry? "Kill Cheney?" Sound familiar? "Kill Bush?" Sound familiar? I'd say the "kill people" anger comes way more on the left than the right. That being said.. you see our rights being taken away, wouldn't you get angry as well?

5) Paranoid? This one I'd say is more of a libertarian thing than a conservative thing :) (but at least neither have claimed that it's the Aliens mind control rays doing it)

I never really considered you to be a true conservative. You never really showed the Obama hate, Gov't hate, complained much, seemed angry, or paranoid like others on this board. I consider you and Smaug to be conservative leaning.

Why should anyone hate a president that is always truthful to us....
at least once every two dozen times.

(07-28-2013 10:39 PM)Tom in Lazybrook Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:51 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Christie is not a true conservative.

What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

1) Yep 2) Nope. They need a government big enough to keep their taxpayer funded payola for their churches and to subsidize their private airports. Also need a government big enough to invade a woman's body and ban oral sex. 3) They don't complain about lots of things, such as people having no access to affordable healthcare, the shrinking middle class, gun violence, and any issue that might help minorities 4.) Yep. 5) Not all. But the Randists, Yep.

Wow. Talk about intellectually lazy. Churches and sex AGAIN (of course, what else is there in life?), pimping the lie about "affordable healthcare", conservatives do far more to fight gun violence than any lib ever has. Leftists idea of "helping minorities" is to give them just enough government cheese to keep them complacent and compliant. Just enough to secure their vote for free stuff every so often.

Keep 'em on the modern day plantations, Libs. Real compassion. But, whatever works for you, keep parroting the DNC talking points. Lazy.

(07-29-2013 08:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 05:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:51 PM)GoApps70 Wrote:  Christie is not a true conservative.

What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

Absolutely dead f-ing wrong on every one of those talking points. Stay delusional, my friend.

Owl= #1 Yes. #2 Mostly. #3 See post above. #4 See post above #5 Mostly.

1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. No. 5. No.
Firmbizzle = liar.

Republicans need to STOP nominating RINO's "W", McCain, Romney, Christie may be bigger than all of them. Nominate this tub of lard and I may vote for HRC in protest.

(07-26-2013 10:11 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 10:03 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I have mixed views of Gov. Christie. Offhand, I think he starts off the campaign as someone who is "acceptable" to rank-and-file GOP-supporters, but others are acceptable, too. It will be up to Christie to make the sale, if he can, when the time comes.

In reaction to firmbizzle's comment, I'll make two predictions about 2016 right now:

1. People who feel comfortable voting for HRC are probably not going to have much (or any) influence over the selection of the GOP nominee.

2. The GOP nominee is probably not going to have much (or any) appeal to people who feel comfortable voting for HRC.

We will see if either of those predictions turn out to be true. I hope that both of them do. But if they do, that will be a sign to me that Republicans are doing their party a lot of good.

In states like FL, MI, NH, MN, WI liberal republicans will be key. The nominee will be either Rand Paul(would be the death of modern conservatism), Chris Christie, or Jeb Bush. Please stop the Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Amash, Ryan, Newt, Santorium posts.

Liberal Republican? Is that the same as a "Moderate" democrat? Either way the country loses voting for either type of candidate.

(07-29-2013 04:40 PM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 08:05 AM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-29-2013 05:00 AM)Owl 69/70/75 Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 10:05 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-28-2013 06:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  What constitutes a "true" conservative?

1.) Hate Obama. 2.) Desire to dismantle all forms of government. 3.) B1tch and complain about everything. 4.) Angry 5.) Paranoid

Absolutely dead f-ing wrong on every one of those talking points. Stay delusional, my friend.

Owl= #1 Yes. #2 Mostly. #3 See post above. #4 See post above #5 Mostly.

1. No. 2. No. 3. No. 4. No. 5. No.
Firmbizzle = liar.

C'mon, nobody believes this. I would add #6 name caller. True conservatives love calling others names when they are angry which is all of the time. Owl, you know you are angry. Let it out, not good for your blood pressure.

(07-26-2013 09:55 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  Or we liberal republicans will probably vote for HRC. Do our party some good for once.

Isn't Turncoat Christie MAObama"s VP?