Or we liberal republicans will probably vote for HRC. Do our party some good for once.

"Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

(07-26-2013 09:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

Mittens was fine until he got all severely conservative. No backbone.

(07-26-2013 09:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

They do exist. I have a few family members who fit the bill, actually. Just like back in Tennessee I know a few conservative Democrats...

(07-26-2013 10:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 09:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

Mittens was fine until he got all severely conservative. No backbone.

So, you'd have voted for him?

I have mixed views of Gov. Christie. Offhand, I think he starts off the campaign as someone who is "acceptable" to rank-and-file GOP-supporters, but others are acceptable, too. It will be up to Christie to make the sale, if he can, when the time comes.

In reaction to firmbizzle's comment, I'll make two predictions about 2016 right now:

1. People who feel comfortable voting for HRC are probably not going to have much (or any) influence over the selection of the GOP nominee.

2. The GOP nominee is probably not going to have much (or any) appeal to people who feel comfortable voting for HRC.

We will see if either of those predictions turn out to be true. I hope that both of them do. But if they do, that will be a sign to me that Republicans are doing their party a lot of good.

If Clinton does decide to run I know who I'll be voting for right off the bat. Easy peasy.

(07-26-2013 10:03 PM)Smaug Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 10:00 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 09:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

Mittens was fine until he got all severely conservative. No backbone.

So, you'd have voted for him?

Massachusetts Mitt? Yes.

(07-26-2013 10:04 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  If Clinton does decide to run I know who I'll be voting for right off the bat. Easy peasy.

Why? What in her past makes you think she'll be a good president?

Sleazy lawyer, invisible senator, incompetent secretary of state.

That just screams presidential material, doesn't it?

(07-26-2013 10:03 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I have mixed views of Gov. Christie. Offhand, I think he starts off the campaign as someone who is "acceptable" to rank-and-file GOP-supporters, but others are acceptable, too. It will be up to Christie to make the sale, if he can, when the time comes.

In reaction to firmbizzle's comment, I'll make two predictions about 2016 right now:

1. People who feel comfortable voting for HRC are probably not going to have much (or any) influence over the selection of the GOP nominee.

2. The GOP nominee is probably not going to have much (or any) appeal to people who feel comfortable voting for HRC.

We will see if either of those predictions turn out to be true. I hope that both of them do. But if they do, that will be a sign to me that Republicans are doing their party a lot of good.

In states like FL, MI, NH, MN, WI liberal republicans will be key. The nominee will be either Rand Paul(would be the death of modern conservatism), Chris Christie, or Jeb Bush. Please stop the Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Amash, Ryan, Newt, Santorium posts.

Let's be clear about one thing: people who rejected Romney/Ryan in 2012, specifically because of a belief that they were "too conservative", are never going to vote GOP for President, no matter what. It makes as much sense for the GOP to choose its nominee in the hope of appealing to such people as it does for the Democrats to choose their nominee in hopes of appealing to people like me.

I'm not sure Hillary is the candidate. We'll see.

(07-26-2013 10:36 PM)Claw Wrote:  I'm not sure Hillary is the candidate. We'll see.

I haven't gotten into that before, but I agree with you. I'm not even positive that she'll run.

(07-26-2013 10:01 PM)Ole Blue Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 09:57 PM)Smaug Wrote:  "Liberal Republican"? So you voted for Mittens, right?

They do exist. I have a few family members who fit the bill, actually. Just like back in Tennessee I know a few conservative Democrats...

The Democratic Party is a big tent, liberals, progressives, centrists, moderates and conservatives are included.

(07-26-2013 10:11 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 10:03 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I have mixed views of Gov. Christie. Offhand, I think he starts off the campaign as someone who is "acceptable" to rank-and-file GOP-supporters, but others are acceptable, too. It will be up to Christie to make the sale, if he can, when the time comes.

In reaction to firmbizzle's comment, I'll make two predictions about 2016 right now:

1. People who feel comfortable voting for HRC are probably not going to have much (or any) influence over the selection of the GOP nominee.

2. The GOP nominee is probably not going to have much (or any) appeal to people who feel comfortable voting for HRC.

We will see if either of those predictions turn out to be true. I hope that both of them do. But if they do, that will be a sign to me that Republicans are doing their party a lot of good.

In states like FL, MI, NH, MN, WI liberal republicans will be key. The nominee will be either Rand Paul(would be the death of modern conservatism), Chris Christie, or Jeb Bush. Please stop the Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Amash, Ryan, Newt, Santorium posts.

Still the best statement in this quandary...if you're in a quandary.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/news/20...ps-person/

If you're confused after this...I can't help you. Sorry.

(07-26-2013 10:54 PM)dawgitall Wrote:  The Democratic Party is a big tent, liberals, progressives, centrists, moderates and conservatives are included.

The D's and the R's are roughly equal in terms of ideological range, and in terms of tolerance/encouragement to dissenting views within the party.

(07-26-2013 10:11 PM)firmbizzle Wrote:  

(07-26-2013 10:03 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  I have mixed views of Gov. Christie. Offhand, I think he starts off the campaign as someone who is "acceptable" to rank-and-file GOP-supporters, but others are acceptable, too. It will be up to Christie to make the sale, if he can, when the time comes.

In reaction to firmbizzle's comment, I'll make two predictions about 2016 right now:

1. People who feel comfortable voting for HRC are probably not going to have much (or any) influence over the selection of the GOP nominee.

2. The GOP nominee is probably not going to have much (or any) appeal to people who feel comfortable voting for HRC.

We will see if either of those predictions turn out to be true. I hope that both of them do. But if they do, that will be a sign to me that Republicans are doing their party a lot of good.

In states like FL, MI, NH, MN, WI liberal republicans will be key. The nominee will be either Rand Paul(would be the death of modern conservatism), Chris Christie, or Jeb Bush. Please stop the Cruz, Rubio, Lee, Amash, Ryan, Newt, Santorium posts.

A couple of points.

Christie can be abrasive. I'm not sure he can handle the glare of the national media without putting his foot in it spectacularly.

Christie can't win Iowa (I'm not qualifying that statement with an unlikely - its virtually impossible for him to win there). He might win NH. He won't win South Carolina or Florida unless there are a million far right candidates running that split the 60% of the GOP primary vote that is tea party. Its very unlikely at this point that he's the nominee.

(07-26-2013 10:29 PM)Native Georgian Wrote:  Let's be clear about one thing: people who rejected Romney/Ryan in 2012, specifically because of a belief that they were "too conservative", are never going to vote GOP for President, no matter what. It makes as much sense for the GOP to choose its nominee in the hope of appealing to such people as it does for the Democrats to choose their nominee in hopes of appealing to people like me.

What percentage of Obama's voters are in play for a far right candidate like Rubio, Ryan, Paul, Santorum etc?

You do realize that Obama got a majority of the vote in 2008 and 2012? Simply ignoring their views, even in the GOP primary, isn't likely to be successful.

Even if Hillary isn't the nominee, the Dems have a pretty strong bench. Watch out for Senator Warner of Virginia if HRC doesn't run.

I don't think anyone can beat HRC though. She outperforms Obama with women, working class whites, Hispanics, and holds her own in the African American community (the Clinton's remain very popular).

I doubt he gets the nomination. However, his recent comments were dead on about the libertarians. I was impressed with his insight on their flaws that many cannot see.
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-5759...ertarians/

Christie already handed the Libs one Presidency. Can we avoid doing that again please? Hopefully Christie will have a heart attack while screwing Hillary and she will suffocate under his lard butt...

THis entire thread is ridiculous, and limpdizzle should be beaten with a cane for posting it.