Look guys, it's one thing to post banter and take jabs at one another. That's fine, there's no problem with that.

However, when it gets to the point where you are condescending to someone else on here or when you are just spewing out hateful comments to someone else (for whatever the reason it may be) and everything just starts becoming a pissing match, it becomes negative smack talk which is something that I don't think is necessary. I want to see meaningful and intelligent conversations, not comments that sound like their coming from idiotic individuals (whether it's because of totally made-up stuff due to baseless claims or misinformation or because someone just flat out hates another school and their fans).

That's all that this thread is all about; I want to send everyone on here a reminder of how to compose yourselves on forums like these. Conference USA is what it is so everyone on here will just need to deal with that.

Don't get me wrong, I do believe that winning will take care some of this as well.

Mac,

Your heart's in the right place. But this is a sports forum and shouldn't be taken so seriously (unless someone is attacking, name calling, or just being vulgar).

Thinking that posters are going to abide by your forum rules is about as pointless as a poster calling your grammar out, with awful grammar of his own .

Jabs will always be taken by fellow conference mates (no different than high school classmates poking fun at a shirt, hair, or a zit).
If that upsets and frustrates you, you will need to either slide on thicker skin, or just ignore them.

You will not convince the group as a whole, and trying to force the issue is only going to open you up more.

Sometimes, it's best to leave well enough alone.

(07-14-2013 06:36 PM)mistabinks Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 05:17 PM)SATXBOSSMAN Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 04:59 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 03:43 PM)SATXBOSSMAN Wrote:  I know once the season starts I'm gonna talk sh!t (smack), so I'm going to apologize now.

You sound like WKU fans a while back. You'll get three wins at best.

So when we get more than 3 wins, can I at least get some free KFC?

Only the UTSA tickets are free. You still have to pay for the fried chicken.

Damn

(07-14-2013 06:55 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  Mac,

Your hearts in the right place. But this is a sports forum and shouldn't be taken so seriously (unless someone is attacking, name calling, or just being vulgar).

Thinking that posters are going to abide by your forum rules is about as pointless as a poster calling your grammar out, with awful grammar of his own .

Jabs will always be taken by fellow conference mates (no different than high school classmates poking fun at a shirt, hair, or a zit).
If that upsets and frustrates you, you will need to either slide on thicker skin, or just ignore them.

You will not convince the group as a whole, and trying to force the issue is only going to open you up more.

Sometimes, it's best to leave well enough alone.

^^^THIS

(07-14-2013 06:44 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

Quote:Last year you went 8-4. You beat a bunch of 1AA teams, NMSU that went 1-11 and Idaho team that went 1-11. Maybe you guys will blow the place up. What do I know? But I've been watching football since the mid 1970's and from my experience you guys won't do so well. Maybe I'm wrong. We will see, but from what I've seen in the past, if you guys go .500 or better it will be a miracle. You won't be playing a bunch of 1AA teams with no depth. This year will be much more difficult. Throw in a couple of money games and you will soon find out what I am talking about.

We're well aware of whom we played last year...lol. Going 8-4 against the teams we faced last year is already a miracle considering it was our 2nd year of having a team, our team was mostly freshmen and sophomores, and we were technically still 1-AA ourselves. In fact, aside from 80% of our roster being freshmen and sophomores, we only had about 65 scholarship players last year (1-AA schools are allotted 62), while the FBS schools we played had 85 scholarship players.

So regardless of how you look at it, we were at a disadvantage in every respect against everyone we faced aside from Texas A&M-Commerce and NW Oklahoma St, and yet still managed to pull 8-4. I challenge you to find anyone who faced a tougher schedule in just their 2nd year of having a program. In fact, we even faced three teams who were in the top 25 at some point of the season (La Tech, Utah State, and San Jose State). There isn't another football program in the country who can say that about their 2nd-year schedule. Compared to other FBS schools, of course we had a weak schedule. We're technically still not FBS yet though, and were only in our 2nd year, so some perspective is in order here.

Btw, I'm predicting a modest 5-7 this year because I (and most other 'Runner fans) know full well what we're up against this season. We've come a long way in a short time though, and we'll only keep getting better.

Psst...buddy...you haven't played anyone, you've been around two years and you've yet to play a body bag game for the big cash. You ain't winnin' more than 3 games. Come back at the end of the season and remind me if I'm wrong, but I won't be.

(07-14-2013 07:18 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 06:44 PM)Volkmar Wrote:  

Quote:Last year you went 8-4. You beat a bunch of 1AA teams, NMSU that went 1-11 and Idaho team that went 1-11. Maybe you guys will blow the place up. What do I know? But I've been watching football since the mid 1970's and from my experience you guys won't do so well. Maybe I'm wrong. We will see, but from what I've seen in the past, if you guys go .500 or better it will be a miracle. You won't be playing a bunch of 1AA teams with no depth. This year will be much more difficult. Throw in a couple of money games and you will soon find out what I am talking about.

We're well aware of whom we played last year...lol. Going 8-4 against the teams we faced last year is already a miracle considering it was our 2nd year of having a team, our team was mostly freshmen and sophomores, and we were technically still 1-AA ourselves. In fact, aside from 80% of our roster being freshmen and sophomores, we only had about 65 scholarship players last year (1-AA schools are allotted 62), while the FBS schools we played had 85 scholarship players.

So regardless of how you look at it, we were at a disadvantage in every respect against everyone we faced aside from Texas A&M-Commerce and NW Oklahoma St, and yet still managed to pull 8-4. I challenge you to find anyone who faced a tougher schedule in just their 2nd year of having a program. In fact, we even faced three teams who were in the top 25 at some point of the season (La Tech, Utah State, and San Jose State). There isn't another football program in the country who can say that about their 2nd-year schedule. Compared to other FBS schools, of course we had a weak schedule. We're technically still not FBS yet though, and were only in our 2nd year, so some perspective is in order here.

Btw, I'm predicting a modest 5-7 this year because I (and most other 'Runner fans) know full well what we're up against this season. We've come a long way in a short time though, and we'll only keep getting better.

Psst...buddy...you haven't played anyone, you've been around two years and you've yet to play a body bag game for the big cash. You ain't winnin' more than 3 games. Come back at the end of the season and remind me if I'm wrong, but I won't be.

Don't worry, we will. Everyone in the WAC said the same thing. They were willing to bet money we wouldn't win more than 3 games. Hopefully by the end of the season (win or lose) UTSA will earn respect from the rest of C-USA, the way we did in our only season in the WAC.

Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

Agreed. We are stepping up in competition. I'm not your everyday fan that just watches because it's the team/school i root for. I watch match-ups, scheme, & coaching. I won't just make a prediction (which I have a serious superstition about not doing during the season) or say we are gonna to win or lose a game without breaking down film first. I've already started looking at as much film as I can find on our first opponent New Mexico. And as of now I don't see anything that says we can't beat them.

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

(07-14-2013 08:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

We actually have a thread going on over on our Rivals forum about injuries and depth. WR is the only position we could sustain any type of injury to a starter & survive. If we have any serious injuries to our OL we are screwed.

(07-14-2013 06:21 PM)mac78251 Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 05:40 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:27 AM)mac78251 Wrote:  Guys, I'm serious!

There have been many instances on here where a few take things too far with what they say about a particular school (whether they disagree with the opinions of the fans from another school(s) or they just plain don't like other school(s)) that it eventually turns the thread into a thread of a bunch of smack talk and pissing matches; this consequently forces the moderators of the C-USA forum to move the thread into the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum.

THIS NEEDS TO STOP!!!

If you don't like a particular school and/or don't like reading the opinions of the fans from another school (or whatever reason it may be), that's fine, you're entitled to think however you want. However, that doesn't justify writing hateful and harsh comments in threads about a school and its fans so thus turning the nature of a thread into a smack talk-like environment. So guys, stop it! Conference USA is what it is for the time being so just get used to seeing your C-USA brethren post on here.

Smack talk is not necessary in this forum!

If you want to talk smack, go to the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum and start a thread on there and talk as much smack as you want but don't come into this forum (i.e. the main C-USA forum) and turn existing threads on here into threads with smack talk-like behavior; that doesn't need to happen.

Seriously, your grammar is horrible, your title needs to read Stop turning threads into smack threads, not as smack threads. I am very insulted by this and therefoream talking smack about your sentence structure.

1. What in the world are you talking about? The thread title is fine. Maybe you're the one that needs to be reminded about grammar.

2. The "here" that I'm referring to is the C-USA forum that you and I are currently on.

3. If you continue commenting in a rude and disrespectful tone, I will report you.

A) You changed the title of the thread. I read it 5 times just to be certain that it made no sense and it didn't.

B) He hasn't been rude or disrespectful

C)Go ahead and report him. I doubt anything happens.

(07-14-2013 08:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

65 schollies in 1A is almost a recipe for disaster. Three wins would be a great season. 4-5 would be excellent. It's not about respect. It's about reality. Two body bag games will have players beat all to hell. That's not to mention that all the other teams they are playing in conference will have 20 more schollies. It is possible that they win more than 3 games but I put the odds at 1 in 10.

(07-14-2013 09:07 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 08:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

65 schollies in 1A is almost a recipe for disaster. Three wins would be a great season. 4-5 would be excellent. It's not about respect. It's about reality. Two body bag games will have players beat all to hell. That's not to mention that all the other teams they are playing in conference will have 20 more schollies. It is possible that they win more than 3 games but I put the odds at 1 in 10.

UTSA will be at about 82 scholarship football players this fall.

(07-14-2013 03:16 PM)shere khan Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 02:35 PM)MU ATO Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:27 AM)mac78251 Wrote:  Guys, I'm serious!

There have been many instances on here where a few take things too far with what they say about a particular school (whether they disagree with the opinions of the fans from another school(s) or they just plain don't like other school(s)) that it eventually turns the thread into a thread of a bunch of smack talk and pissing matches; this consequently forces the moderators of the C-USA forum to move the thread into the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum.

THIS NEEDS TO STOP!!!

If you don't like a particular school and/or don't like reading the opinions of the fans from another school (or whatever reason it may be), that's fine, you're entitled to think however you want. However, that doesn't justify writing hateful and harsh comments in threads about a school and its fans so thus turning the nature of a thread into a smack talk-like environment. So guys, stop it! Conference USA is what it is for the time being so just get used to seeing your C-USA brethren post on here.

Smack talk is not necessary in this forum!

If you want to talk smack, go to the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum and start a thread on there and talk as much smack as you want but don't come into this forum (i.e. the main C-USA forum) and turn existing threads on here into threads with smack talk-like behavior; that doesn't need to happen.

You think a little arguing is bad? You should of been here the week the original group leaving made news and were waiting around for Boise State to announce so they could piggy back with the Broncos and share their media spotlight.

you still mad bro

Me? You obviously don't know me or are familiar with our board and how I feel about the 'Murica 12 SUMBITCH.

How very typical though.

(07-14-2013 06:21 PM)mac78251 Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 05:40 PM)baruna falls Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:27 AM)mac78251 Wrote:  Guys, I'm serious!

There have been many instances on here where a few take things too far with what they say about a particular school (whether they disagree with the opinions of the fans from another school(s) or they just plain don't like other school(s)) that it eventually turns the thread into a thread of a bunch of smack talk and pissing matches; this consequently forces the moderators of the C-USA forum to move the thread into the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum.

THIS NEEDS TO STOP!!!

If you don't like a particular school and/or don't like reading the opinions of the fans from another school (or whatever reason it may be), that's fine, you're entitled to think however you want. However, that doesn't justify writing hateful and harsh comments in threads about a school and its fans so thus turning the nature of a thread into a smack talk-like environment. So guys, stop it! Conference USA is what it is for the time being so just get used to seeing your C-USA brethren post on here.

Smack talk is not necessary in this forum!

If you want to talk smack, go to the "CUSA Smack Talk" sub-forum and start a thread on there and talk as much smack as you want but don't come into this forum (i.e. the main C-USA forum) and turn existing threads on here into threads with smack talk-like behavior; that doesn't need to happen.

Seriously, your grammar is horrible, your title needs to read Stop turning threads into smack threads, not as smack threads. I am very insulted by this and therefoream talking smack about your sentence structure.

1. What in the world are you talking about? The thread title is fine. Maybe you're the one that needs to be reminded about grammar.

2. The "here" that I'm referring to is the C-USA forum that you and I are currently on.

3. If you continue commenting in a rude and disrespectful tone, I will report you.

I hope you are joking as he was but for some reason I'm thinking you're talking this way too seriously. As much as we all argue and have fun Id buy all these people a beer or 10. Well minus the UCFers but I doubt anyone would buy them anything either.

(07-14-2013 09:09 PM)mac78251 Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:07 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 08:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

65 schollies in 1A is almost a recipe for disaster. Three wins would be a great season. 4-5 would be excellent. It's not about respect. It's about reality. Two body bag games will have players beat all to hell. That's not to mention that all the other teams they are playing in conference will have 20 more schollies. It is possible that they win more than 3 games but I put the odds at 1 in 10.

UTSA will be at about 82 scholarship football players this fall.

Ok, first year at full schollies. That helps a bit. If the extra schollies had a year of experience on them it would be better. Odds of winning more than 3 games are now at 1 in 7. (transfers from CC's won't help that much btw)

(07-14-2013 09:33 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:09 PM)mac78251 Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 09:07 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 08:17 PM)RUNVSFD MINER Wrote:  

(07-14-2013 07:58 PM)BlueRaiderFan. Wrote:  Hey, don't get me wrong. You've got my respect. You went 8-4 in your second year. Even with the teams you were playing that was something. I'm just trying to get you to see reality. You are moving up to the big time. This ain't what you've seen so far. You still need 20 more schollies to have a shot at more than 3 games.

You make a great point.

I've seen so many UTEP teams start off great, and keep up with powerhouses like Oregon, Wisconsin, and Oklahoma. But we often run out of steam in the 4th (or late 3rd). Getting skilled players and matching them up against the big boys is one thing. Establishing the depth to finish with them is another. I think that is why a 1st string injury on the field hurts a CUSA (or any non-P5) team much more than it does a P5 team.

65 schollies in 1A is almost a recipe for disaster. Three wins would be a great season. 4-5 would be excellent. It's not about respect. It's about reality. Two body bag games will have players beat all to hell. That's not to mention that all the other teams they are playing in conference will have 20 more schollies. It is possible that they win more than 3 games but I put the odds at 1 in 10.

UTSA will be at about 82 scholarship football players this fall.

Ok, first year at full schollies. That helps a bit. If the extra schollies had a year of experience on them it would be better. Odds of winning more than 3 games are now at 1 in 7. (transfers from CC's won't help that much btw)

What were the odds of us winning 8 games last year? People like to trash us for the opponents we played but the original plan was for us to still be an FCS independent last year...alot of our early recruits came in knowing that. Thats why the majority of our team were still underclassmen and why a good portion of our players last year were FCS caliber. Something we have no problem admitting. The only reason we were FBS last year and will be in C-USA so soon is because of the reallgnment craze. C-USA was actually a long term goal when footballl was first approved.

All of the established programs in C-USA should theoretically beat UTSA, and if yall dont yall should be embarrassed because this is all KFC gravy for us. We werent even supposed to be were we are at this soon.

mac, you need to relax btw. From reading some of your posts on other UTSA sites I can tell youre a good guy but still dont take chit so seriously. Sometimes its good to roll around in filth and get in friendly pissing matches with other fanbases. What fun would a sports forum be if all we did was talk about how great our conference mates are? The banter mixes up things in a good way tbh.

(07-15-2013 04:05 AM)correcamino Wrote:  mac, you need to relax btw. From reading some of your posts on other UTSA sites I can tell youre a good guy but still dont take chit so seriously. Sometimes its good to roll around in filth and get in friendly pissing matches with other fanbases. What fun would a sports forum be if all we did was talk about how great our conference mates are? The banter mixes up things in a good way tbh.

Unfortunately, some don't have the mental capacity to engage in friendly pissing matches without resorting to personal attacks.